hello all

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 09/10/2006 12:33:36 GMT Standard Time,

johnskirsch4@... writes:

I'm new to the group (even though I have been reading the posts for

awhile).

Hi ,

Welcome to the group. I sorry that I've taken so long to say hello but that

is par for the course with me. I hope your managed to get the info you were

looking for.

Take care,

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 15/10/2006 13:59:52 GMT Standard Time, donnabj64@...

writes:

First time posting so hopefully I am doing it right. I live in

Sumner and have been going to the clinic of Dr Ettlinger and Dr

Krick in Tacoma.

Hi Donna,

A late welcome to the group. I hope you manage to eventually get back to work.

Good luck,

[Guest guest]

hi donna i also live in your area. was at the cannery just last weekend. there

are a few of us in the surrounding area. just wanted to say hi

casey

martincoyless@... wrote:

In a message dated 15/10/2006 13:59:52 GMT Standard Time, donnabj64@...

writes:

First time posting so hopefully I am doing it right. I live in

Sumner and have been going to the clinic of Dr Ettlinger and Dr

Krick in Tacoma.

[Guest guest]

Thank you! Hello to you too... Isn't it amazing just how long you

can spend just looking around in The Cannery? I am back at work now

after a horrible kidney infection that when systemic. Still havent

decided if I want to do anything about it but the lab has admitted

that my urine was switched with someone else's sample which is why I

was misdiagnosed and the other woman was treated for an infection

that she didnt have.

Lately it seems it is one thing right after another... Problems with

my fiance's custody fight, my health, his health (ulcerative

colitis), my job and the classes I am taking and now the flooding.

Last night we were ordered to leave our townhome due to the

flooding. So we went with our two daughters at 10pm and camped out

on the living room floor of my mother's one bedroom apt. I couldnt

believe I was able to get up off the floor this morning!! The kids

have created a tent in the living room and are watching movies in it

with the lap top. We would rather just be home. Our townhome is on

a hill so we would be above the water line but the road in and out of

the subdivision would be inaccessible but at least we would be home

in our own beds. I have friends that have said that the road is clear

so we may try to go back today. We are stocked up in food, water and

medications.

My mom is wonderful for letting us descend on her like this but I

know that she is wanting to pull her hair out. We even brought the

cat. The girls wouldnt leave home without her! Mom went to make her

bed and tried to smooth down a lump and found the cat curled up in a

ball in her sheets. She didnt think it was as funny as her

granddaughters did. LOL

As I told my fiance though last night when we got the girls to sleep,

our first year and half and probably the next year of legal battles,

health battles and all the rest that is coming along is all just a

test of our love, faith and perseverance. If we can weather through

all this then we can make it through anything!

Luckily, my PA isn't bothering me really bad (ok the rash on my face

bothers me) but the pain has been pretty low and the fibromyalgia has

been better since I have been taking Ribose every day. I will start

pool therapy Friday. (Guess before that I could just go walk in the

river! ha ha) and my student loan got approved and I can get my

second computer fixed so I can work on school work in the bedroom

where it is quieter when the kids are home. And is in a

remission period which is surprising with all the stress he is in

right now.

I hope that the bad weather isnt displacing anyone else and everyone

out there is safe, warm and dry.

Smiles!

Donna

[Guest guest]

sorry to hear the flooding misplaced you. i live on a hill also but the water

doesnt get us. snow and ice does! cant imagine sleeping on floor. ouch! the kids

usually have so much fun with this kind of thing though. you have so much on

your plate. just stay strong. it can only get better right? i saw the sun come

out today! so there is hope for us. i saw our area on national news. you would

think that the whole state was underwater by there reporting. anytime you want

to talk or yell just email me. i check usually once a day. stay dry!

casey

Donna <donnabj64@...> wrote:

Thank you! Hello to you too... Isn't it amazing just how long you

can spend just looking around in The Cannery?

Last night we were ordered to leave our townhome due to the

flooding. So we went with our two daughters at 10pm and camped out

on the living room floor of my mother's one bedroom apt. I couldnt

believe I was able to get up off the floor this morning!!

[Guest guest]

Donna...hope you are back home now. What an ordeal! I am using your

circumstances to remind me that I have a warm, soft place to lay my

head for now and I'm thankful. Let us know when you are back home.

Praying that there is no damage to your place and that the " evac " was

just a precaution. Also praying for your health and your peace of mind.

Thinking of you in general... Love Betz

[Guest guest]

Hi Donna,

I hope you have managed to get back ok by now and as your house is on a hill,

it has suffered no damage.

Good luck,

[Guest guest]

Hello!

Yes,,, We are back home!!! THANK GOODNESS!!! Sleeping on the floor

was awful! Our daughters had a blast camping out in grandma's one

bedroom apt though! The water didn'fcvt reach our street at all but

it got the lower level of the the apartments below us and the mobile

home park next to it.

It also came up to the back door of my work place... But hopeully,

the water will now stay where it belongs... Plus, I think my mother

was glad to have her apartment back to herself, have her solitude back

and have the tent that the girls made- out of her living room! LOL

Thank you!

Donna

[Guest guest]

So glad that you guys are ok. -Betz

[Guest guest]

Welcome back, Belinda. During your hiatus you have missed a lot of

craziness on this site and related sites. There have been cycles of

over-editing, of preaching, of MLM-ing, of various zealotries, and of

well-meaning wrongheadedness. I think things have calmed, but

probably not for long.

At 04:46 AM 12/13/2006, you wrote:

>I just wanted to introduce myself as it has been about eight

>years since I have frequented this site. My name is Belinda Tuminski,

>and I am an RN currently working on my Doctorate in Natural Medicine.

>We used to get into to some really good discussions on here. I

>remember and I want to say Johanna......and saw their names on

>posts recently....Hello you guys! Not sure if you remember me or if

>you're the same and ana that was on here back in 1998 or not.

>I very much enjoyed this site when I was on it " way back when " as I

>have always had a passion for researching natural ways to re-gain the

>body's balance to cure any disease, but esp cancer...as it has claimed

>the lives or has wrecked havoc in my family. Also, I am quite sick

>and disgusted over the Politics in Medicine. But, just wanted to

>re-introduce myself since its been so long and there are so many new

>people on this site now....and wanted to say hi to and

>Johanna. Have a very Merry Christmas ALL!................Belinda

[Guest guest]

Hi Belinda!

Yes it's me! I was here in 1998 fighting the good fight. The fight is won for

me. Good to hear from you. I have to say I have enjoyed and his

expertise so much. You will be blessed with Joe, , and the rest of those

beautiful people.

Hugs,

Johanne

12/13/2006, you wrote:

I just wanted to introduce myself as it has been about eight

years since I have frequented this site. My name is Belinda Tuminski,

and I am an RN currently working on my Doctorate in Natural Medicine. We used to

get into to some really good discussions on here. I remember and I want

to say Johanna......

[Guest guest]

--Joanne: Would love if everyone would share what they have dealt

with and have been healed of, if you don't mind sharing I would love

to read more about you. Would you share what you did also. Hope you

don't mind my jumping in here and asking, sort of changing the

subject too. Welcome back Belinda, look forward to picking your

brain and learning more from you. Thanks, Frann

, " Johanne Wayne " <thewfamily@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Belinda!

>

> Yes it's me! I was here in 1998 fighting the good fight. The fight

is won for me.

> Hugs,

> Johanne

>

>

> 12/13/2006, you wrote:

> My name is Belinda Tuminski,> and I am an RN currently working on

my Doctorate in Natural Medicine.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Frann,

I am 41 years old right now. I am done fighting 'tumors' for the time being.

Came from an extremely abusive home. Trauma has a lot to do with this.

I was diagnosed with a pituitary brain tumor at 23 years old and the first

symptom was breast milk. I had no children yet then. I then had ovarian cancer,

breast cancer throughout the 4th pregnancy at 29 years old, melanoma (found on

my back) and cervical cancer. I developed ascites 3 summers ago and it

reabsorbed on its own in 4 months.

I took Parlodel for the brain tumor for 6 years but one day, I fell down the

stairs because I was dizzy with my newborn 4th child. I took the meds and

flushed them down the toilet, called my husband and told him I was going to do

alternative medicine for this condition period. I have since found out that

Parlodel causes strokes in postpartum mothers. Parlodel is supposed to keep the

tumor from growing but the tumor grew only while I was on that drug.

I went through a series of fasts and colonics over the years and continue to do

them regularly 2-3 times a year. I practiced 'metabolic typing diet' for 10

years and believe that method has saved my life. What I did for each episode

was:

Pituitary Brain Tumor: Progesterone Oil twice a day for 10 years, metabolic

typing, cleanses and stayed away from hormones in food plus eat only organic.

Took Cantron & Protocel for 2.5 years and was pronounced tumor-free last April.

The milk had stopped in January. The was a very long fight for me.

Ovarian: Had the right ovary removed and continued on with the above regimen.

Breast: Observed the growth of this tumor which grew almost under my right

armpit throughout the 4th pregnancy and two weeks before the baby was to be

born, I had the doctor take the tumor out in office. It turned out malignant but

I chose to continue on with the above regimen. No problem since and that was 12

years ago.

Melanoma: Found by mistake as I was going to get help for pneumonia that day. I

chose to take care of it with an extra dose of progesterone oil plus the above

regimen. No problem since.

Cervical Cancer: Found the day our then 5 year old daughter was diagnosed with

lymphoma. We all went to Mexico to 'American Biologics' and after a 10-day

detox, came back and tested negative for the cancer. It was 4th stage

supposedly. Our daughter is now 15 and even if she was tested for lymphoma in

the U.S. she was biopsied negative in Tijuana. God healed her....She and her 3

other siblings also practice metabolic typing.

My husband, , in February, suffered a bout of pulmonary embolism. He is an

ex-professional baseball player and in shape. He is 44 years old and it is a

miracle for him to be alive since one lung was 100 percent full of clots and the

other 80 percent. We proceeded to embark on metabolic typing for him and he has

surprised the doctors with how fast he recovered. He will have to be on Coumadin

the rest of his life as he has a 40-60 percent chance of dying if off of it. His

blood coagulates spontaneously!

Currently, our 16 year old son is battling a bone tumor. He is doing well on

Cantron and eating metabolically.

Our 12 year old son is in the process of being diagnosed with a mild case of

cystic fibrosis and that is doing much better since he has eating metabolically

and usisng enzymes.

Our two daughters are fine and learning to be nutritionists and metabolic typing

advisor.

I homeschool all our children and have from the beginning. It has helped me stay

other-oriented and prevented me from being absorbed in fear.....They have been

part of my healing.

So this is it in a nutshell. I have learned so much from this list and it has

given me encouragement since my path was not supported by anyone except my

husband this whole time.

Thank you all of you for being part of this list....

Johanne

----- Original Message -----

If you don't mind sharing I would love to read more about you. Frann

[Guest guest]

Hi Johanne,

I would have ended up in the loony bin going through the experience...could you

give me a link to metabolic typing diet?

thanks, franz

[Guest guest]

Hi Franz,

Go to http://metabolictyping.info<http://metabolictyping.info/>

Also get this book, The Metabolic Typing Diet by Bill Wolcott on Amazon and

begin learning how to nourish your cells. It is easy reading but better than

that, it has helped thousands and me!!

Blessings,

Johanne

Hi Johanne,

Could you give me a link to metabolic typing diet?

thanks, franz

[Guest guest]

My goodness Johanne! I read this whole post and didn't realize it was you till

the end! I've got a couple of questions for you.

First, where do you live???? Do you think its possible that you are

all being subjected to some toxic environmental source in your area?

Unusual, for so many in the family to have such serious conditions,

don't ya think?

Second, since our body, mind and spirit are so tightly interweaved,

you cannot effect one dimension without the other two being affected

as well. So, my question is - what have you done to release the

trauma? For the past two years, I have been studying energy medicine

in my spare time. Allopathic medicine is not " approving " of this

modality, as it is not something that is tangible, can be " boxed " and

seen in black and white. The only evidence they will accept as being

" real " is an EEG or a EKG. That of course, is because they can " see "

that and record it. But energy is VERY real, and traumas will effect

our energy pathways, sometimes putting a " kink " in that pathway,

disrupting the energy in the body. I think you also need to address

this aspect of your being. Some things I would suggest is EMF

(emotional freedom technique), practice meditation and yoga, and any

energy healing course i.e. Donna Eden - these would also make great

home school courses! (I homeschool 2 of my sons as well, with a LOT of help from

my mom because I'm so busy sometimes - single mom....six kids)

Our thoughts also create an energy. Another avenue you may want to

venture is to examine your " thoughts " . There is a WONDERFUL video

called " the secret " . You can watch the DVD online for $5.00....I

highly recommend it! the website is at www.thesecret.tv . I am

actually buying that video for everyone of my sons for Christmas,

along with the alladins lamp....just so they will have a visual to

trigger their memory back to the video they watched!

The physical approach you are utilizing in your situation appears to have been

very effective. Do you drink " clean " water or own a distiller? Do you juice

fruits/vegetables and know about Gersons therapy? Do you buy non-toxic

household products? I know of a great new product that will clear up all the

metabolic waste products in the body and has numerous other benefits. You can

also get a bio-marker testing kit with it to actually see the changes in your

bio-chemistry. I was introduced to it my the Doctor that trains me. I told

about it....but waiting to get his input on it. I have just recently

learned of the Cantron when I returned to this site after so many years.....It

looks quite interesting and I've heard good reports from this site on it.

Through all you have been through and experienced, I know you have

gained a tremendous amount of knowledge from your experiences. You

will have the ability to bless others with your knowledge and

experience. I applaud you! I'm so impressed and proud of you! You

have an incredible story. You should write a book!

Merry Christmas to you and yours!........God Bless.........Belinda

" Johanne Wayne " wrote:

I am 41 years old right now. I am done fighting 'tumors' for the

time being. Came from an extremely abusive home. Trauma has a lot to

do with this.

[Guest guest]

Hey cute Belinda!

I will go down your email.

We live in Lakewood, CO just outside of Denver. Yes, I believe we are subjected

to some toxic environmental 'thing'. The kids know to be careful with water and

food and they bring everything everywhere and drink only what we have. We have

an air purifier in the home. But I suspect a few 'chemtrails' have gotten the

best of us. As far as me, it is a 20 year history of abuse stored in my body

that came out! I am thankful it could have been worse. Much has to be

respiratory since is battling spontaneous pulmonary embolism, I have two

children with severe asthma (diagnosed in the last few months, never had any

trouble before) and another child with sports asthma, and our fourth child is

fine for now but battled lymphoma 20 years ago. We have our home on the market

and plan on renting for a while until we figure out the best haven for our

family. I got the message loud and clear.

We have 'The Secret' and there is a lot of truth to this. I know that as a

holistic body, trauma gets stored somewhere. I had a huge storage area in my

physical being. Thankfully, I had youth and determination plus my faith on my

side.

Yes, our home is a sanctuary with 'living water', clean air, I make our own soap

and am a chef and cook only organic. We do not eat out and we work out in our

basement.

If our children continue learning about a healthy home and lifestyle and

continue to resist peer pressure the way they have already, this will have been

worth it for us. They are so far ahead of where we were at. They do not meet

many their age that understand where they are at with their health but it makes

them stronger.

Thanks for caring Belinda. You are a beautiful person.

May the Lord bless you this holiday season and all year......

Johanne

From: louvonnie [excerpts of previous message]

....Johanne! where do you live?...toxic environmental source in your area?...what

have you done to release the trauma?...energy is VERY real, and traumas will

effect our energy pathways, sometimes putting a " kink " in that pathway,

disrupting the energy in the body...I would suggest is EMF (emotional freedom

technique), practice meditation and yoga, and any energy healing course i.e.

Donna Eden...a WONDERFUL video called " the secret " ...DVD online for

5.00...www.thesecret.tv... Do you drink " clean " water? Do you juice

fruits/vegetables and know about Gersons therapy?...buy non-toxic household

products?...Belinda

[Guest guest]

Johanna,

For many years the U.S. Army maintanined a chemical weapons depository just

east of the old Denver airport. This was some of the most toxic stuff on

the planet and was kept in open earthen pits. The chemicals of course

seeped down into the earth and into the ground water. (What a surpize that

was). Anyway the ground water has been contaminated around this asrea for

years. I do not know to what extent the contamination is but I wouldn't

want to drink or even bathe in the stuff. Also I do not know how extensive

the contamination is.

Ray

[Guest guest]

Bruce No's. Always.

[Guest guest]

Wasn't it more N.E. near the depot just outside of Commerce City?

Where Johanna lives is either too far for surface contamination or too close

for deep water contamination, if my memory jogs me about water infiltration

levels and rates.

Regards,

Bruce Guilmette, PhD

Author: THERE'S MORE TO LIFE THAN JUST LIVING, A Personal Story About

Cancer Survival

Survive Cancer Foundation, Inc.

http://survivecancerfoundation.org <http://survivecancerfoundation.org/>

Do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day

has enough trouble of its own. Matt 6:34 (NIV)

_____

From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of Ray Simons

Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:17 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Hello All

Johanna,

For many years the U.S. Army maintanined a chemical weapons depository just

east of the old Denver airport. This was some of the most toxic stuff on

the planet and was kept in open earthen pits. The chemicals of course

seeped down into the earth and into the ground water. (What a surpize that

was). Anyway the ground water has been contaminated around this asrea for

years. I do not know to what extent the contamination is but I wouldn't

want to drink or even bathe in the stuff. Also I do not know how extensive

the contamination is.

Ray

[Guest guest]

Trust me, water is top priority in our home!

Johanne

PS: Thank you Bruce for your gift of encouragement.

[Guest guest]

Hey Johanne,

Did you read Ray's post about the very poisionous chemicals they

deposited in your area by the military? You should dig a little

deeper into that and find out what is possibly seeping out or

" outgassing " . If you have a basement, I would not spend alot of time

down there. Call the Department of Enviornmental protection and see

if you can get any information out of them.....who was that woman that took

that chemical company to court for quietly poisoning everyone. Does anyone

know of that movie I'm talking about? It was a great movie and a true story!

As far as many members of your family having respiratory issues

and your husband with a combination of respiratory and blood clotting

issues....please know that those conditions can also be manifested due to an

overtoxic, overburdened detoxification system / immunune system. Have you ever

heard of Sherry , MD? You need to read her books! I have all of them!

She's one intelligent lady and although she is an MD, she is also a free thinker

(not a brainwashed,

pharmaceutical representative MD....okay, I won't get on my soapbox

here!...lol...)

Let me know what you find out..... ........Belinda

[Guest guest]

Besides Johanne, water does not flow uphill from Commerce City to Lakewood.

At least it didn't when we lived in Aurora 15 years ago.

Have a great Christmas.

Bruce Guilmette, PhD

Author: THERE'S MORE TO LIFE THAN JUST LIVING, A Personal Story About

Cancer Survival

Survive Cancer Foundation, Inc.

http://survivecancerfoundation.org <http://survivecancerfoundation.org/>

Do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day

has enough trouble of its own. Matt 6:34 (NIV)

_____

From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of Johanne Wayne

Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 10:45 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Hello All

Trust me, water is top priority in our home!

Johanne

PS: Thank you Bruce for your gift of encouragement.

[Guest guest]

-Belinda: May I ask where you are located. I am in the southwest in

Arizona. Wanted to know what your practise will be like while you're

finishing school? Will you be available to treat patients or just

attend school? Its nice to have you on board, have you personally

dealt with any cancer in your life? Would like to hear your

testimony. Frann

-- In , " louvonnie " <louvonnie@...> wrote:

>

> I just wanted to introduce myself as it has been about eight

> years since I have frequented this site. My name is Belinda

Tuminski,

> and I am an RN currently working on my Doctorate in Natural Medicine.

Have a very Merry Christmas ALL!................Belinda

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Frann,

I lived in Arizona for two years, in Lakeside. I worked on the indian

reservations. Was with the Apache nation for two years, and then transferred to

Claremore Oklahoma and worked with the Cherokee at the Indian Hospitals. I have

always had a passion for cancer research, so when I graduated nursing school in

1996, I went to work on the Oncology/hematology unit. I did not agree with the

approach to treating cancer that is in place, and found the doctors very

ignorant concerning alternative treatments. Most were not even interested in

learning about alternative treatments and some were extremely agitated with the

suggestion, except one. He was open minded and had more knowledge than his

peers without the hostility, but he was not able to step out of his comfort

zone. If they do not follow the established protocol for treating cancer,

which we all know only includes - chemo, radiation and/or surgery, they could

possibly risk losing their license. They have alot at stake. They are

exclusively train by the pharmaceutical industry. The pharmaceutical companies

fund the medical schools. Doctors only

really know pharmaceuticals. They were only required to even have

three hours of nutrition! I always laugh, when they say " Ask your doctor,

before taking this supplement " or whatever it is....because they don't know!

Some in their arrogance and ignorance will simply denounce it rather

than just admit that they do not know. Anyway, I ended up leaving the Oncology

unit, because it just did not sit well with my soul. The protocol does not even

make sense! They attack and ravage the body rather than figure out how to work

with the body to detox and rebuild the systems already in place, so the body can

heal itself.

Cancer is a multi-factoral disease process. We all have cancer

cells in our bodies, but our immune system keeps them in check. So,

when the immune system has declined to the point where it can no

longer do its job (and the bodies detoxification systems is also part

of our immune system)...we develop cancer. Cells are out of control.

To give a person chemo makes no sense. Chemo , as you know, is

incredibly toxic. Yes, it may kill off bad cells, but it kills off

the rest of the good cells as well! I've often wondered if the

pharmaceutical companies did not get the idea for chemo from Vit B17.

Vitamin B17 kills off diseased, damaged cells without harming the

good cells. But of course, that is a natural product that cannot be patented,

and was vicously attacked and degraded by the pharmaceutical industry. Their

inferior attempt at doing what B17 does so much more effectively & safely by

working with the bodies own natural intelligence......is chemo. That of course

is just my opinion. I had ethical problems when asked to go hang a bag or

bottle of chemo, knowing what I know and believing what I believe. So, I had to

leave my position there and I went clear to the other end of the spectrum and

worked in the nursery, where life was just entering our world! But I continued

to study, read and research in my free time.

I know this is getting long, sorry...but you've got me on my

soapbox.....Have to get ready for work....so will finish this letter

when i get back and answer the rest of your questions Frann......Have

a great day...............Belinda