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> Ah, I believe most versions of lower-carb/low glycemic eating plans

> allow beans as beans are very high in fiber and protein and digest

> slowly :)

In very limited amounts, because they're high in protein. I know one

" serving " is only a third of a cup - hardly a mouthful.

Some plans are allowing carrots again without restraint as the original

testing of their GI was faulty. Corn, alas, is still counted as a starch.

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30 pounds is more than I have lost in the last 10 years unless you count the 5 I add and subtract often. I am trying to promise myself that I will not weigh the most I have weighed again. I have kept the 10 pounds off and am focusing on the next 10. I agree about the rules causing rebellion. We have made healthier choices whole wheat products , no sodas, and brown rice etc. I am going to unsweet tea today.

Robin :-)

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Sue,

The program that I have chosen is an exchange program and I see that as something I could do for the rest of my life and teach it to my kids now so that they hopefully would not have to learn the hard "weigh" I have used the food pyramid site and love it.

My doctor told me to avoid the no carbs and low carbs as it isn't something most people can do long term and that often the weight pops back on quickly.

I think I need to log what I am doing because I don't count cleaning, gardening, walking to the bus stop etc. I need to visualize all the good things I do and the bad to see where changes need to be done. So for April I am also adding a journal of sorts.

I also know it can't be done overnight. It feels as if I gained it overnight though.

Thanks for the encouragement. I like listing the things and checking them off. That suits my personality. Thanks

Robin :-)

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Sue,

The program that I have chosen is an exchange program and I see that as something I could do for the rest of my life and teach it to my kids now so that they hopefully would not have to learn the hard "weigh" I have used the food pyramid site and love it.

My doctor told me to avoid the no carbs and low carbs as it isn't something most people can do long term and that often the weight pops back on quickly.

I think I need to log what I am doing because I don't count cleaning, gardening, walking to the bus stop etc. I need to visualize all the good things I do and the bad to see where changes need to be done. So for April I am also adding a journal of sorts.

I also know it can't be done overnight. It feels as if I gained it overnight though.

Thanks for the encouragement. I like listing the things and checking them off. That suits my personality. Thanks

Robin :-)

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> My doctor told me to avoid the no carbs and low carbs as it isn't something

most people

can do long term and that often the weight pops back on quickly.

The bigger push now is for " Low Glycemic Carbs " (which really translates to more

veggies

- tho not starches such as potatoes and corn that some folks COUNT as veggies -

less

processed, pre-packaged food, etc.). I eat about 100g of carbs per day. I could

NEVER

have survived on even the 2 week Induction phase of Atkins or South Beach!

> I think I need to log what I am doing because I don't count cleaning,

gardening, walking

to the bus stop etc. I need to visualize all the good things I do and the bad to

see where

changes need to be done. So for April I am also adding a journal of sorts.

Journaling is good. I always wonder about including these things as 'exercise'

if you're

doing the normal every-day routine. Adding in gardening or mopping the floors,

etc. if

you're doing a detailed cleaning that you don't normally do, etc. makes sense

though as

you're going 'above and beyond' your normal physical activity. As Callean found

- she

walks EVERYWHERE, to the tune of more than doubling most folks in the Step

Challenge -

but it's not helping much with her weight loss as her body's used to that level

of exertion.

> I also know it can't be done overnight. It feels as if I gained it overnight

though.

You'll get there!

> Thanks for the encouragement. I like listing the things and checking them off.

That suits

my personality. Thanks

> Robin :-)

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Hi,

I didn't mean to count my stuff as exercise but to count all the positives I do so I don't beat myself up as much. Yes, most of these activities are above and beyond since when I first got to stay at home again I sat way more than I use to. That is one reason I gave up daytime TV the other is that we do not have cable so there is nothing on for me anyway.

Robin :-)

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Robin-What has been working for me is I drink 2 Slim-Fasts and then have a small dinner, sometimes I also have a small dessert. I drink a lot of water, quit drinking alchohal, and Dance my butt off.

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Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming - Wow! What a ride!~ Unknown

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Thanks but I have been told by my doctor not to do slim fast due to seeing spots and not to restrict my calories for so long. She wants me to continue on the program I am on and it is one that my whole family can follow. I was mostly asking how to get motivated and stay that way. I decided that journaling was the way to go so I could see what things lead to me not doing healthy things like not getting enough sleep causes me to snack more.

Robin :-)

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In a message dated 3/28/2007 3:14:10 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, croppinrobin711@... writes:

30 pounds is more than I have lost in the last 10 years unless you count the 5 I add and subtract often. I am trying to promise myself that I will not weigh the most I have weighed again. I have kept the 10 pounds off and am focusing on the next 10.

I think this is the 3rd or 4th time I have reached my "10% loss" LOL - at least I am convinced this is the FINAL time of reaching it!! And, I passed it LOL - 31.4 lbs gone!! Yay!!

See what's free at AOL.com.

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In a message dated 3/28/2007 3:14:10 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, croppinrobin711@... writes:

30 pounds is more than I have lost in the last 10 years unless you count the 5 I add and subtract often. I am trying to promise myself that I will not weigh the most I have weighed again. I have kept the 10 pounds off and am focusing on the next 10.

I think this is the 3rd or 4th time I have reached my "10% loss" LOL - at least I am convinced this is the FINAL time of reaching it!! And, I passed it LOL - 31.4 lbs gone!! Yay!!

See what's free at AOL.com.

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In a message dated 3/28/2007 3:14:10 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, croppinrobin711@... writes:

30 pounds is more than I have lost in the last 10 years unless you count the 5 I add and subtract often. I am trying to promise myself that I will not weigh the most I have weighed again. I have kept the 10 pounds off and am focusing on the next 10.

I think this is the 3rd or 4th time I have reached my "10% loss" LOL - at least I am convinced this is the FINAL time of reaching it!! And, I passed it LOL - 31.4 lbs gone!! Yay!!

See what's free at AOL.com.

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Robin~

I made a deal with myself.... if I want to watch TV I have to ride my

bike while I do it.

warmly,

Kim

In a message dated 3/28/07 7:58:41 AM, croppinrobin711@... writes:

That is one reason I gave up daytime TV the other is that we do not

have cable so there is nothing on for me anyway.

Robin :-)

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Robin~

I made a deal with myself.... if I want to watch TV I have to ride my

bike while I do it.

warmly,

Kim

In a message dated 3/28/07 7:58:41 AM, croppinrobin711@... writes:

That is one reason I gave up daytime TV the other is that we do not

have cable so there is nothing on for me anyway.

Robin :-)

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Sula~

I have to completely agree. There are so many healthy carbs that we

should eat, fruits, whole grains, and even veggies have carbs. I don't

really know of any diet that is actually No-Carb, although I'm the

first to admit that I don't know the details of every diet. If it

wasn't for the pain of a Candidal Rash scaring me away from bad-Carbs

I'm sure I'd be having a much more difficult time staying on track. I

had two bites of mashed potatoes the other night and BAM my rash

doubled in size. OUCH!

warmly,

Kim

In a message dated 3/28/07 7:51:43 AM, sulablue2001@... writes:

> My doctor told me to avoid the no carbs and low carbs as it isn't something

most people

can do long term and that often the weight pops back on quickly.

The bigger push now is for " Low Glycemic Carbs " (which really

translates to more veggies

- tho not starches such as potatoes and corn that some folks COUNT as

veggies - less

processed, pre-packaged food, etc.). I eat about 100g of carbs per

day. I could NEVER

have survived on even the 2 week Induction phase of Atkins or South Beach!

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Robin~

I made a deal with myself.... if I want to watch TV I have to ride my

bike while I do it.

warmly,

Kim

In a message dated 3/28/07 7:58:41 AM, croppinrobin711@... writes:

That is one reason I gave up daytime TV the other is that we do not

have cable so there is nothing on for me anyway.

Robin :-)

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I agree with the limiting of white flour, sugar etc. We have switched to whole wheat bread and pasta and have used brown rice for 12 years. I do like those changes. My kids actually hate white bread. Yes!

My carb problems are snack cakes and other too easy to get foods. We try not to have them in the house but we enable each other and will pick them up from time to time. The frustrating thing is knowing in my head what is good for me and actually doing it. Duh who doesn't struggle with that I wish they made a patch for it.

Kim I am so sorry for your rash. Yikes I hope it feels better soon.

Robin :-)

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Hi ,

The best book to get started would be the Integrating Dynamic and Postural

Reflexes manual. You can check the website for ordering info. at

www.Masgutovamethod.com.

Val

getting started

Hi, I need some advice on getting started. I will be attempting to do

the therapy by myself and with an OT on my 4 year old very mild CP child.

What is the best book (from the website) that I should buy to get started?

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I think this one is pretty good -

Handling the Young Child with Cerebral Palsy at Home, Third Edition, Nancie R.

Finnie (not off the website)

Best of luck!

Chris

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Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 8:11 AM

Subject: getting started

Hi, I need some advice on getting started. I will be attempting to do

the therapy by myself and with an OT on my 4 year old very mild CP child.

What is the best book (from the website) that I should buy to get started?

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>

> Hi Bee and All

>

> Thank you for selflessly giving of your time and knowledge to bless

> the lives of so many people.

==>Hi Sandy. Welcome to our wonderful group!

>

> I am just getting started, have read all the files, and have a

> couple of questions:

>

> 1. We have been using Standard Process HCL, but read on one of the

> posts that SP may not be the best brand. IS there another brand

> that you recommend? How about Premier Research?

==>Standard Process does have some good products; maybe their HCl is

okay. I haven't checked it out lately so I don't recall. I live in

Canada so the brands available may be different, so I buy Natural

Factors brand which also contains Fenugreek.

>

> 2. Any brand that you recommend for Vit C- does it have to be

> buffered, or rose hips, etc?

==>I do not recommend any buffered vitamin C, so please re-read that

section of my article. The simpliest to take is vitamin C tablets

that contain what I list in my article; I buy Natural Factors Brand

here.

>

> 3. The 1/2 t of Coconut oil- is that raw on a spoon, or does it

> count if we cook our eggs with CO?

==>Any way you take coconut oil counts.

>

> 4. I cannot find an egg drink recipe.

==>Search for: Raw Egg Drink or Bee's Raw Egg Drink on my website.

The best, Bee

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> I was told to take DIM. I saw on your

> site that you don't recommend it.

Could you reference where you saw the recommendation not to take DIM? I

just had DIM recommended to me because of excessive hormonally caused

inflammation showing on my breast thermogram. I want to know why DIM would

not be recommended.

Lynn

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Welcome to the group. I can understand your confusion. If I were in your

shoes I would not do the Atomidine. I would take Lugols formula in either

liquid or pill form (Iodoral). With a changing therm you will need to hit

with a heavy gun. The atomidine is not strong enough to do what you need.

I recommend that you do the loading test (no doctor needed to order -

references are in the files). Don't wait to do this. Dr. Abraham has said

that it takes 3-6 mos of 50 mgs to get to full body saturation provided all

is working right and you are not too toxic. As for bromide exposure. It

doesn't just come from food. It is found in carpet, furniture, clothing,

computers, cell phones, cars and more. Check out

www.breastcancerchoices.org for more info. Did you see my mom's therms that

I posted Sunday ( I believe). She improved greatly with 50 mgs and

supporting nutrients.

I don't think it is your diet unless you are eating gluten and that may

cause problems as well. I am reading a book called dangerous grains and it

is linked to many diseases. We are testing my son for Celiac / intolerance

and in two weeks my entire family is going GF (after the WAP national

conference).

Hope that helps!

Getting started

> Hi everyone,

>

> I'm new and jumping right in. Forgive me for barging in and unloading my

> situation and all

> my questions. My last thermography this past September showed increased

> hyperthermia in

> my left breast and therefore I no longer have a stable baseline. I have

> to go back for a

> follow-up in December. My left breast does feel very dense and heavy. I

> have been on a

> low-carb WAP diet since May and wondering if the change in diet is

> creating this. I don't

> have enough time before the next thermography to go through the iodine

> loading test and I

> don't have a practitioner to work with. I would like to get started

> right away using Cayce

> Atomidine drops on my breasts ( I read somewhere that they did not stain),

> and with Evening

> Primrose oil while taking more time to learn all the material and then

> possibly take the

> loading tests. I don't have any thyroid issues that I am aware of. I

> have been healing from a

> bout with Ulcerative colitis, hence the change in diet. All summer I

> worked through the

> Blessed Herbs cleansing kit slowly and imperfectly having to skip some

> things that were too

> strong. For the past month I been drinking Violet leaf infusion, taking

> milk thistle, and an

> herbal lympathic formula along with some skin brushing. I'm also

> wondering how much

> exposure I could have to Bromide if I have been eating organically and

> living green for close

> to twenty years. My breast tissue is just not detoxing! I was told to

> take DIM. I saw on your

> site that you don't recommend it. I am so glad to have stumbled upon your

> group and

> website. Any thoughts? Signed feeling worried and overwhelmed.

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

>

>

>

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Lynn,I sent you the page from Breast cancer choices.  It's in the first paragraph.  Can't figure out how to send it to the whole group.  Let me know if you got it.On Oct 29, 2008, at 4:54 AM, Lynn McGaha wrote:From: "robinknauth"> I was told to take DIM. I saw on your> site that you don't recommend it.Could you reference where you saw the recommendation not to take DIM? Ijust had DIM recommended to me because of excessive hormonally causedinflammation showing on my breast thermogram. I want to know why DIM wouldnot be recommended.Lynn

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Thank you !  That was the push I needed.  And yes, that is great news about your mom.  I am sending in the forms for the lab today. On Oct 29, 2008, at 8:38 AM, ladybugsandbees wrote:Welcome to the group. I can understand your confusion. If I were in your shoes I would not do the Atomidine. I would take Lugols formula in either liquid or pill form (Iodoral). With a changing therm you will need to hit with a heavy gun. The atomidine is not strong enough to do what you need. I recommend that you do the loading test (no doctor needed to order - references are in the files). Don't wait to do this. Dr. Abraham has said that it takes 3-6 mos of 50 mgs to get to full body saturation provided all is working right and you are not too toxic. As for bromide exposure. It doesn't just come from food. It is found in carpet, furniture, clothing, computers, cell phones, cars and more. Check out www.breastcancerchoices.org for more info. Did you see my mom's therms that I posted Sunday ( I believe). She improved greatly with 50 mgs and supporting nutrients.I don't think it is your diet unless you are eating gluten and that may cause problems as well. I am reading a book called dangerous grains and it is linked to many diseases. We are testing my son for Celiac / intolerance and in two weeks my entire family is going GF (after the WAP national conference).Hope that helps! Getting started> Hi everyone,>> I'm new and jumping right in. Forgive me for barging in and unloading my > situation and all> my questions. My last thermography this past September showed increased > hyperthermia in> my left breast and therefore I no longer have a stable baseline. I have > to go back for a> follow-up in December. My left breast does feel very dense and heavy. I > have been on a> low-carb WAP diet since May and wondering if the change in diet is > creating this. I don't> have enough time before the next thermography to go through the iodine > loading test and I> don't have a practitioner to work with. I would like to get started > right away using Cayce> Atomidine drops on my breasts ( I read somewhere that they did not stain), > and with Evening> Primrose oil while taking more time to learn all the material and then > possibly take the> loading tests. I don't have any thyroid issues that I am aware of. I > have been healing from a> bout with Ulcerative colitis, hence the change in diet. All summer I > worked through the> Blessed Herbs cleansing kit slowly and imperfectly having to skip some > things that were too> strong. For the past month I been drinking Violet leaf infusion, taking > milk thistle, and an> herbal lympathic formula along with some skin brushing. I'm also > wondering how much> exposure I could have to Bromide if I have been eating organically and > living green for close> to twenty years. My breast tissue is just not detoxing! I was told to > take DIM. I saw on your> site that you don't recommend it. I am so glad to have stumbled upon your > group and> website. Any thoughts? Signed feeling worried and overwhelmed.>>> ------------------------------------>>>>>

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Hi again.  I want to see if my message to you shows up as a group message.  Did you get the page I mailed you?On Oct 29, 2008, at 4:54 AM, Lynn McGaha wrote:From: "robinknauth"> I was told to take DIM. I saw on your> site that you don't recommend it.Could you reference where you saw the recommendation not to take DIM? Ijust had DIM recommended to me because of excessive hormonally causedinflammation showing on my breast thermogram. I want to know why DIM wouldnot be recommended.Lynn

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