Re: Speech Therapy Matrix used by school based SLPs

[Guest guest]

I do have the book, and I will check out those links, but this document was

recommended to me at a training I went to that was sponsored by CASANA back in

October last year. It was supposedly their " official " defining report on what

Apraxia was and it included treatment recommendations. I do think it was ASHA

and CASANA that came together and did it. I keep finding info about the 2002

symposium which sounds to me about the right time period we were talking about,

but I can't find anything with the specific treatment recommendations. Just

thought it would be a good official document to back up my request since I don't

know if the district has worked much with kids with Apraxia before.

I don't anticipate them trying to short change him as I do know that they are

going to recommend the full time early childhood program for him with pull out

speech, but I just want to make sure that includes enough speech with someone

who is qualified and that there is enough one on one cause I know their whole

program is based on integrative therapy (because my older son also went to their

EC program for a short time). I remember in October going home and looking for

it and I think I did find it online. I may have it as an old bookmark, I'm

gonna try digging through them. My private SLP cannot be there, and neither can

the OT or the EI SLP, but I have reports from all of them and my husband with

me. I am recording it all and taking the IEP with us to a new school district

in a month so I want to make sure that I get the best possible scenario from

them to send on to the next school.

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From: kiddietalk <kiddietalk@...>

Sent: Sun, March 13, 2011 10:49:45 PM

Subject: [ ] Speech Therapy Matrix used by school based SLPs

You probably mean the document that The Cherab Foundation was given permission

to use online, and my co authors and I were also given permission to use in the

book The Late Talker. I found it years ago on ASHAs website before they closed

certain areas to the public (like...research and stuff that's important for

awareness and advocacy for IEP meetings)

The following matrix is a guide for school based speech pathologists and it's

awesome!

I have it on both our new and old site and it's in The Late Talker book, which

you could bring to help you advocate. Many here have signed my name in the book

something like " Good luck with your IEP meeting let me know if you need any

help!

[Guest guest]

FYI, I found the document I was looking for on the ASHA website, in case it

could be useful to anyone else. I kept looking on the CASANA website because

that was where I learned about it but it is not very clearly organized and

Google wasn't bringing it up at all, but when I went to the ASHA website it was

easy to find. http://www.asha.org/docs/html/TR2007-00278.html The

recommendations are under the section titled " Professional Issues - Treatment " .

I think 60 pages might be a big much to print out but probably enough to print

out the section and write the reference on the top of the page. I worry a

little because since the new therapist, NV and fish oil he has really made huge

strides and we can mostly understand him at home now. Still struggling to put

words together and most of his words are more approximations and not very

intelligible to strangers but WE can understand him just because we are with him

almost constantly and it's SO much better that it used to be...but that makes it

hard for me to judge how outside people are going to see his abilities. With

the matrix and this document I think I should be able to make a very good case

for the therapy I will be asking for. Thanks again!

From: kiddietalk <kiddietalk@...>

Sent: Sun, March 13, 2011 10:49:45 PM

Subject: [ ] Speech Therapy Matrix used by school based SLPs

You probably mean the document that The Cherab Foundation was given permission

to use online, and my co authors and I were also given permission to use in the

book The Late Talker. I found it years ago on ASHAs website before they closed

certain areas to the public (like...research and stuff that's important for

awareness and advocacy for IEP meetings)

The following matrix is a guide for school based speech pathologists and it's

awesome!

I have it on both our new and old site and it's in The Late Talker book, which

you could bring to help you advocate. Many here have signed my name in the book

something like " Good luck with your IEP meeting let me know if you need any

help!

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I guess your glad you found the link but I have a few concerns about the

document you shared and want to express them here to all parents and

professionals.

They only list symptoms on this document for speech - which is why I wouldn't

share this document with anyone dealing with MY child, certainly not to

advocate!! and wouldn't suggest it for anyone who has a child that has

multifaceted issues as most today do with apraxia. This document does not

support or mention neuro medical exams nor do they even mention the other

aspects of apraxia that are well known today such as global aspects of motor

planning issues in the body, co existing weakness (hypotonia) and or sensory

integration issues. I won't even get into gut issues as I know ASHA probably

wouldn't go there -but I mean to not even note the fact that apraxia is more

than just a speech issue??? Today???

What if you want to advocate for occupational therapy? Oral motor therapy?

(insert cricket sound here)

In addition I'm not sure what support " groups " with an 'S' they spoke to about

the decision to change from developmental apraxia of speech to childhood apraxia

of speech as I only know of one that supports and uses that name CAS...think we

all know why they want CAS used there -we don't use it here because we want

what is best for the population when they are children -and when they are teens

and adults as well.

And somehow they claim they stopped using " developmental " because parents (I

guess in these " groups " ) didn't like that name " developmental " apraxia of speech

-but somehow " childhood " apraxia of speech is fine? Really??? Boy do I wish

SNL could do a " Really " skit on this one!

If it wasn't so sad this quote would be comical...and PS to ASHA I know a few

parent groups that don't like " childhood " apraxia of speech -so for that reason

will you change it again -and just change it to apraxia?!!

" The Committee recommends childhood apraxia of speech (CAS) as the

classification term for this distinct type of childhood (pediatric) speech sound

disorder. Beginning with the first word in this term, two considerations

motivate replacing the widely used developmental with the word childhood. One

consideration is that CAS support groups in the United States, the United

Kingdom, and elsewhere have requested that developmental not be used in a

classification term for this disorder. "

I stand by all that is in The Late Talker as well as the links I supported but

it's up to you or anyone here if this link wants to be included knowing it's not

a completely accurate diagnosis based on realtiy and it's providing a diagnosis

name that they themselves even admit a similar one was not liked by the parents.

This document is outrageous and unfair to those that have children with apraxia

like me who are now teens or older. Boo!! Again read this on why not to call

it childhood apraxia of speech

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=15797 & post=106567 & uid=115029735601#post1\

06567

I do support this link on apraxia

http://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/voice/apraxia.html because even though they say

" apraxia of speech " they are specifically addressing that one area and don't

limit it to being just a speech disorder -AND they notice there is more than one

view on apraxia and list various groups for this reason. Zero politics -just

the facts as it should be!

YAY to the National Institutes of Health -you ROCK!!!

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