Good Morning

[Guest guest]

It's just that to me, on paper, I thought my condition was severe enough, in and

of itself.  Oh well, no big deal.  I'll just keep trying.  I have always been a

physical person and enjoy actual labor and manual activities, but you are

correct, I do need to switch things up and use my brain.  I have not read any

red or green book so I'm no expert.  Although, maybe I should.  I'm just

thinking about the question of having depression and brain " problems " .  Maybe I

can use my brain to get diagnosed with some sort of mental problem.  I have

studied psychology and would know what to overexaggerate.  Nah, that's not me. 

I could not and would not ever do such.  Anyhow, what is the EMG testing that

you mention.  I have not had it performed, nor have I ever heard of it.

--

Dave

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From: Debra <i_ownaberner@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 10:07:30 PM

Subject: Re: Good morning

Dave

SSD goes by severity.... the fact that you have a college degree means that you

can do work that is not physical...in other words you can use your brain to earn

a living,...the younger you are the harder it is to get SSD....I was  37 when I

was approved.... have you had EMG testing..... the things you listed in and of

itself DO NOT qualify for SSD UNLESS you are unable to ambulate.... read the red

and green book.

 Debra RN in St. Louis

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From: D Chavez <chavezdymail (DOT) com>

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 3:24:21 PM

Subject: Re: Good morning

Hey Sue,

Today, I just received a letter from SocSec denying my disability claim.  This

is only the first time, but my neurosurgeon thought that I would get it.  Along

with my facet joint issues, I've have sciatica, DDD, osteoarthritis,

spondylolysis, central and foraminal stenosis, and a few bulges up and down.  I

have not experienced any sweet cravings or pain as a result of weather.  I'm not

diabetic, but I do have high blood pressure.  I really don't like sweets

anymore.  Sorry I can be of any assistance.

I'm trying to understand this SocSec issue.  After telling them that I have

never been diagnosed with depression or mental conditions, nor do I take any

meds for it, they sent me this denial letter.  Now, I'm questioning having not

answered in the affirmative.  Even though I do have some depression, I have and

will never go to a doc for it.  I don't want to be on meds to mess with my

head.  In the letter, it presses the issue of performing substantial work, being

30 yrs, and having a college degree.  It says that medical evidence shows

limitations, but that no other conditions would significantly limit my ability

to work.    This is ridiculous!  Why should I need to meet more than the

qualifying conditions with mental issues?

Dave

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From: " kansas77@sbcglobal . net " <kansas77@sbcglobal . net>

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 8:41:08 AM

Subject: Good morning

Hi all,

Yesterday I took bus to see the doctor she told me I messed up my sciartic nerve

I wonder,to point I cant move or carry heavy things much more with out hurting

my back.Next week start on thearphy.She prescibe me new med called least is new

to me calledmethyiprednis olone like4 mg one day for 21 days.This morning I can

some what sit at computer.Im tire of pain his morning my left neck woke ealry

with between migraine and stress headache.I had question does any one in group

hurt more when on weather conditon there low pressure or high humidty?Some days

get migraine in low pressure.Glad no classes this week that helps.

I pray on Monday when social security call my husband that this time he will get

disabilty since he has neuorpathy in legs nerve damage.Not sure how much more

this year he can work only work can do is mowing after today might be miserable

for few days after wards/He diabetictype two second time fighting on his

disabilty doctor thinks he should have it to.Anyone in groups has his kind of

pain either.i got some nerve pain in my left arm and degrenrated disc in.

Anyone go through sweet cravings lot.?Im not diabetic but do have low blood

pressure always have since my open heart sugery as kid was born with whole in my

heart.Anyone want pisky gly lol buzzing around driving me nuts lol.Going be hot

humid in ks summer is here for sure.

Need get breakfeast take my medicine and fishoil.anything help on dry scalp why

I started taking fish oil.

Good day all.I aslo had stop working due health problems.Hard eough dealing with

online college as it is.

Sue.,ks

[Guest guest]

I would say the difference between now and this time next year is all

that we learn and put into practice in this year.learning about the

value of positive thinking, feeling and behave.. learning to live

consciously and to live in the here and now... If we learn some of this

in this year we will have learned a great deal

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Could someone please tell me where the wonderful cartoon and all that is below,, where they come from.. I think they are amazing and would to get hold of them for my own website if tht is possible

Many thanks

CaroleThe only difference between where you are right now, and where you'll be next year at this same time, are the people you meet and the books you read. It is not because things are difficult thatwe do not dare, it is becausewe do not dare that they are difficult.There are two kinds of people,those that do the work andthose that take the credit.Try to be in the first group,there is less competition there .Most of the important things in the worldhave been accomplished by peoplewho have kept on tryingwhen there seemed to be no hope at all.Aseem Kaistha"Attitudes are contagious. Are yours worth catching?"ICC World Twenty20 England & #39;09 exclusively on ! CRICKET http://cricket.--- End forwarded message ---

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Please would you tell me where to get hold of this wonderful good morning message andd similar ones as I would love to have them for my website

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[Guest guest]

Good things come

to those who Wait.

Better things come

to those who Try.

Best things come

to those who Believe.

Desired things come

to those who Pray.

1 of 1 Photo(s)

[Guest guest]

The world will provide

you

with stones every

day,

what you build out

of it is your outlook.

A Bridge or a Wall.

[Guest guest]

Because if you wait that long the effects of the levothyroxine will be gone, and

the tests will not show a high reverse T3 because the levothyroxine will be gone

or almost gone. It's the conversion or non conversion from the T3 that causes

the problem.

 

Now that I've been on T3 only for quite some time, there is no high Reverse T3.

That's what is

so infuriating to me. The doctors don't check it when they should, and if they

don't check for it when they should, it never gets seen and so they don't have

to address it, and their protocol.

That way they keep giving the patient the T4 and the patient still feels sick.

 

You've been off of it for two weeks now, and it probably won't show what was

going on for real at this time anyway. That's another thing, the doctors don't

care how long we have to wait for tests.

After all, it's not them that is ill it's us.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

 

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

From: H <macbarb0503@...>

Subject: Good Morning

hypothyroidism

Date: Thursday, November 18, 2010, 7:03 AM

After reading what I wrote yesterday, it sounds crazy.

I've been off of the Levothyroxin for two weeks today, in preparation for the

radioactive test and scan that was canceled.  Yesterday after some discussion

during which the endocrinologist did most of the talking, he said, " Stay off the

medication and let's wait a month for the blood tests. "   I don't understand how

it went from let's do it now, to let's wait a month in a span of a few minutes.

Since I would only have to be off the medication three weeks for the uptake test

and scan, why would I wait six weeks from the time I stopped taking the

medication for further blood work to check FREE T3, FREE T4, and REVERSE T3?   I

have primary and secondary insurance.

Thanks,

Barb

[Guest guest]

You're right Roni. I called the office today and asked how when to have the

blood work done changed from let's do it now, to wait a month. The nurse

checked with the doctor, called back and said he wants to make sure it's out of

my system. When I told her I'd already been off of the meds 2 weeks, the doctor

said wait three more. So, I guess after five weeks they think it will all be

gone.

Barb

Good Morning

hypothyroidism

Date: Thursday, November 18, 2010, 7:03 AM

After reading what I wrote yesterday, it sounds crazy.

I've been off of the Levothyroxin for two weeks today, in preparation for the

radioactive test and scan that was canceled. Yesterday after some discussion

during which the endocrinologist did most of the talking, he said, " Stay off the

medication and let's wait a month for the blood tests. " I don't understand how

it went from let's do it now, to let's wait a month in a span of a few minutes.

Since I would only have to be off the medication three weeks for the uptake test

and scan, why would I wait six weeks from the time I stopped taking the

medication for further blood work to check FREE T3, FREE T4, and REVERSE T3? I

have primary and secondary insurance.

Thanks,

Barb

[Guest guest]

Roni said:

Now that I've been on T3 only for quite some time, there is no high Reverse T3.

That's what is

so infuriating to me. The doctors don't check it when they should, and if they

don't check for it when they should, it never gets seen and so they don't have

to address it, and their protocol.

That way they keep giving the patient the T4 and the patient still feels sick.

I'm sorry you've had to go through all that, and understand why it infuriates

you. If the doctor or a member of his family was feeling sick, care would

probably be more efficient.

Barb

Good Morning

hypothyroidism

Date: Thursday, November 18, 2010, 7:03 AM

After reading what I wrote yesterday, it sounds crazy.

I've been off of the Levothyroxin for two weeks today, in preparation for the

radioactive test and scan that was canceled. Yesterday after some discussion

during which the endocrinologist did most of the talking, he said, " Stay off the

medication and let's wait a month for the blood tests. " I don't understand how

it went from let's do it now, to let's wait a month in a span of a few minutes.

Since I would only have to be off the medication three weeks for the uptake test

and scan, why would I wait six weeks from the time I stopped taking the

medication for further blood work to check FREE T3, FREE T4, and REVERSE T3? I

have primary and secondary insurance.

Thanks,

Barb

[Guest guest]

I just reread my post below, and I made a typo. It's the conversion from the T4

that shows

high Reverse T3 if the conversion is not happening properly. By taking the

levothyroxine,

if you are not converting properly it will show up. I don't know whether or not

it will show

up if you are on nothing.

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

 

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

From: H <macbarb0503@...>

Subject: Good Morning

hypothyroidism

Date: Thursday, November 18, 2010, 7:03 AM

After reading what I wrote yesterday, it sounds crazy.

I've been off of the Levothyroxin for two weeks today, in preparation for the

radioactive test and scan that was canceled.  Yesterday after some discussion

during which the endocrinologist did most of the talking, he said, " Stay off the

medication and let's wait a month for the blood tests. "   I don't understand how

it went from let's do it now, to let's wait a month in a span of a few minutes.

Since I would only have to be off the medication three weeks for the uptake test

and scan, why would I wait six weeks from the time I stopped taking the

medication for further blood work to check FREE T3, FREE T4, and REVERSE T3?   I

have primary and secondary insurance.

Thanks,

Barb

[Guest guest]

If you have a situation of T4 converting to Reverse T3, it will happen

regardless of the source of T4;i.e., you don't have to be taking a hormone, you

could be making the hormone.

Marla

>

> I just reread my post below, and I made a typo. It's the conversion from the

T4 that shows

> high Reverse T3 if the conversion is not happening properly. By taking the

levothyroxine,

> if you are not converting properly it will show up. I don't know whether or

not it will show

> up if you are on nothing.

>

[Guest guest]

Didn't you originally have strange test results? A TSH that went from 8 to 1 in

a few weeks? Or was that someone else?

If that was you, I think the doctor may be wanting to get another TSH reading

without supplemental hormone. Just to recheck your actual thyroid function, as

that drop is very strange.

And it takes weeks to clear out the T4 you were taking; probably longer than

just a couple of weeks for the scan.

Marla

>

>

> After reading what I wrote yesterday, it sounds crazy.

>

>

> I've been off of the Levothyroxin for two weeks today, in preparation for the

radioactive test and scan that was canceled. Yesterday after some discussion

during which the endocrinologist did most of the talking, he said, " Stay off the

medication and let's wait a month for the blood tests. " I don't understand how

it went from let's do it now, to let's wait a month in a span of a few minutes.

>

> Since I would only have to be off the medication three weeks for the uptake

test and scan, why would I wait six weeks from the time I stopped taking the

medication for further blood work to check FREE T3, FREE T4, and REVERSE T3? I

have primary and secondary insurance.

>

> Thanks,

> Barb

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Marla,

Yes I'm the one. After calling the offce back I found out that's what the endo

wants. It's for all blood tests related to the thyroid though, not just the

TSH. He thinks the Levothyroxin will be out of my system within five weeks,

which is about three weeks from now. The endo agreed with everyone here who

said the drop is strange, although it took place over about 6 weeks, and said

maybe I don't even have Hypothyroidism. That doesn't seem right either though,

when the TSH was over 8 when first tested.

Does anyone know of anything that could cause a high TSH reading temporarily?

It's interesting that I didn't develop the enlarged thyroid until about two

months after taking 25 MCG of Levothyroxin a day. My heart rate was way up on

that small dose too, as if I were Hyperthyroid. I have wondered if being on

that small dose of Levothyroxin if I didn't need it could have caused the

enlarged thyroid. I don't think that's possible, but don't understand all this

very well yet. There seem to be many conflicting opinions on a lot of it.

The endo has canceled the radioactive uptake test and scan, and has ordered a

needle biopsy. He doesn't think I need the radioactive test because the nodules

are there, and the biopsy will tell if they are benign or not. It's done with

ultrasound. That's not until January though.. He said there's a 90 to 95%

chance it's not malignant, so that's encouraging.

Thanks for your input Marla.

Barb

Re: Good Morning

Didn't you originally have strange test results? A TSH that went from 8 to 1 in

a few weeks? Or was that someone else?

If that was you, I think the doctor may be wanting to get another TSH reading

without supplemental hormone. Just to recheck your actual thyroid function, as

that drop is very strange.

And it takes weeks to clear out the T4 you were taking; probably longer than

just a couple of weeks for the scan.

Marla

>

>

> After reading what I wrote yesterday, it sounds crazy.

>

>

> I've been off of the Levothyroxin for two weeks today, in preparation for the

radioactive test and scan that was canceled. Yesterday after some discussion

during which the endocrinologist did most of the talking, he said, " Stay off the

medication and let's wait a month for the blood tests. " I don't understand how

it went from let's do it now, to let's wait a month in a span of a few minutes.

>

> Since I would only have to be off the medication three weeks for the uptake

test and scan, why would I wait six weeks from the time I stopped taking the

medication for further blood work to check FREE T3, FREE T4, and REVERSE T3? I

have primary and secondary insurance.

>

> Thanks,

> Barb

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

IIRC the half life of T4 is about a week. If I'm looking at it right

about 97% should be gone in 5 weeks.

Luck,

..

..

> Posted by: " H " macbarb0503@...

> <mailto:macbarb0503@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Good%20Morning>

> westieabbey <westieabbey>

>

>

> Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:08 pm (PST)

>

>

>

>

> You're right Roni. I called the office today and asked how when to

> have the blood work done changed from let's do it now, to wait a

> month. The nurse checked with the doctor, called back and said he

> wants to make sure it's out of my system. When I told her I'd already

> been off of the meds 2 weeks, the doctor said wait three more. So, I

> guess after five weeks they think it will all be gone.

>

> Barb

[Guest guest]

Thank you . And you said Chuck was the smart one. Thanks. I wonder if

that means I should wait 6 weeks, until all of it is gone. That's how long it

would have been when he said wait another month. After I told the doctor I'd

already been off of it two weeks, he said wait three more. Maybe I should have

jut kept quiet, and done what he said.

Barb

Re: Good Morning

IIRC the half life of T4 is about a week. If I'm looking at it right

about 97% should be gone in 5 weeks.

Luck,

..

..

> Posted by: " H " macbarb0503@...

> <mailto:macbarb0503@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Good%20Morning>

> westieabbey <westieabbey>

>

>

> Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:08 pm (PST)

>

>

>

>

> You're right Roni. I called the office today and asked how when to

> have the blood work done changed from let's do it now, to wait a

> month. The nurse checked with the doctor, called back and said he

> wants to make sure it's out of my system. When I told her I'd already

> been off of the meds 2 weeks, the doctor said wait three more. So, I

> guess after five weeks they think it will all be gone.

>

> Barb

=

[Guest guest]

There is no doubt in my mind.

 

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

 

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

From: H <macbarb0503@...>

Subject: Good Morning

hypothyroidism

Date: Thursday, November 18, 2010, 7:03 AM

After reading what I wrote yesterday, it sounds crazy.

I've been off of the Levothyroxin for two weeks today, in preparation for the

radioactive test and scan that was canceled.  Yesterday after some discussion

during which the endocrinologist did most of the talking, he said, " Stay off the

medication and let's wait a month for the blood tests. "   I don't understand how

it went from let's do it now, to let's wait a month in a span of a few minutes.

Since I would only have to be off the medication three weeks for the uptake test

and scan, why would I wait six weeks from the time I stopped taking the

medication for further blood work to check FREE T3, FREE T4, and REVERSE T3?   I

have primary and secondary insurance.

Thanks,

Barb

[Guest guest]

I've had followup testing, and since stopping the T4, the Reverse T3 is down to

<25. It was definitely coming from the T4.

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

 

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

From: flatwoodfarms <marlum@...>

Subject: Re: Good Morning

hypothyroidism

Date: Friday, November 19, 2010, 5:55 AM

If you have a situation of T4 converting to Reverse T3, it will happen

regardless of the source of T4;i.e., you don't have to be taking a hormone, you

could be making the hormone.

Marla

>

> I just reread my post below, and I made a typo. It's the conversion from the

T4 that shows

> high Reverse T3 if the conversion is not happening properly. By taking the

levothyroxine,

> if you are not converting properly it will show up. I don't know whether or

not it will show

> up if you are on nothing.

>

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

It's not usual, but the first TSH test could have been a mistake at the lab. If

that was so, then you probably didn't have hypoT. There is such shoddy work

nowadays in all areas, not just medicne and labs, but they are the most

dangerous. Then again, drunk pilots and train drivers, truck drivers and just

plain old drivers put thousands of people in jeapardy every day.

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

 

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

From: H <macbarb0503@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Good Morning

hypothyroidism

Date: Friday, November 19, 2010, 6:40 AM

Marla,

Yes I'm the one.  After calling the offce back I found out that's what the endo

wants.  It's for all blood tests related to the thyroid though, not just the

TSH.  He thinks the Levothyroxin will be out of my system within five weeks,

which is about three weeks from now.  The endo agreed with everyone here who

said the drop is strange, although it took place over about 6 weeks, and said

maybe I don't even have Hypothyroidism.  That doesn't seem right either though,

when the TSH was over 8 when first tested.

Does anyone know of anything that could cause a high TSH reading temporarily?

It's interesting that I didn't develop the enlarged thyroid until about two

months after taking 25 MCG of Levothyroxin a day.  My heart rate was way up on

that small dose too, as if I were Hyperthyroid.  I have wondered if being on

that small dose of Levothyroxin if I didn't need it could have caused the

enlarged thyroid.  I don't think that's possible, but don't understand all this

very well yet.  There seem to be many conflicting opinions on a  lot of it.

The endo has canceled the radioactive uptake test and scan, and has ordered a

needle biopsy.  He doesn't think I need the radioactive test because the nodules

are there, and the biopsy will tell if they are benign or not.  It's done with

ultrasound.   That's not until January though..  He said there's a 90 to 95%

chance it's not malignant, so that's encouraging.

Thanks for your input Marla.

Barb

Re: Good Morning

Didn't you originally have strange test results? A TSH that went from 8 to 1 in

a few weeks? Or was that someone else?

If that was you, I think the doctor may be wanting to get another TSH reading

without supplemental hormone. Just to recheck your actual thyroid function, as

that drop is very strange.

And it takes weeks to clear out the T4 you were taking; probably longer than

just a couple of weeks for the scan.

Marla

>

>

> After reading what I wrote yesterday, it sounds crazy.

>

>

> I've been off of the Levothyroxin for two weeks today, in preparation for the

radioactive test and scan that was canceled. Yesterday after some discussion

during which the endocrinologist did most of the talking, he said, " Stay off the

medication and let's wait a month for the blood tests. " I don't understand how

it went from let's do it now, to let's wait a month in a span of a few minutes.

>

> Since I would only have to be off the medication three weeks for the uptake

test and scan, why would I wait six weeks from the time I stopped taking the

medication for further blood work to check FREE T3, FREE T4, and REVERSE T3? I

have primary and secondary insurance.

>

> Thanks,

> Barb

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You could always call a few days before and say something came up and you won't

be

able to make the appointment and reschedule for a month later.

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

 

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

From: H <macbarb0503@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Good Morning

hypothyroidism

Date: Friday, November 19, 2010, 7:38 AM

Thank you .  And you said Chuck was the smart one.  Thanks.  I wonder if

that means I should wait 6 weeks, until all of it is gone.  That's how long it

would have been when he said wait another month.  After I told the doctor I'd

already been off of it two weeks, he said wait three more.  Maybe I should have

jut kept quiet, and done what he said.

Barb

Re: Good Morning

IIRC the half life of T4 is about a week. If I'm looking at it right

about 97% should be gone in 5 weeks.

Luck,

..

..

> Posted by: " H " macbarb0503@...

> <mailto:macbarb0503@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Good%20Morning>

> westieabbey <westieabbey>

>

>

> Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:08 pm (PST)

>

>

>

>

> You're right Roni. I called the office today and asked how when to

> have the blood work done changed from let's do it now, to wait a

> month. The nurse checked with the doctor, called back and said he

> wants to make sure it's out of my system. When I told her I'd already

> been off of the meds 2 weeks, the doctor said wait three more. So, I

> guess after five weeks they think it will all be gone.

>

> Barb

=

[Guest guest]

Chuck is of course highly intelligent but he also has the advantage of a

PhD in the " hard " sciences. Plus he's about the most helpful person you

will find. Much of what I know about the technical aspects of

hypothyroidism has been due to paying attention to what he posts. My

personal knowledge of science is on the lay level, where I have read

rather extensively on some subjects.

When a product decreases in the half-life manner the remaining balance

is cut in half each time the half-life cycle occurs. At 5 weeks you

should have about 3% left unless I've screwed up my calculation; but

waiting another week won't get rid of all of it. It will just cut the

remaining 3% in half. Mathematically you would never reach zero but

what you do reach is a level where the remainder can be ignored for all

practical purposes.

Honestly given the conflicting results and lab tests you've had totally

confuses me. I cannot think of any possible combination of events that

would cause them. Thus I wonder if there were not one or more errors

somewhere along the line. Of course, I'm not a doctor or scientist so

there's lots I don't know. I'm hoping that you're well on the path of

getting some comprehensible answers.

Best,

..

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>

> Posted by: " H " macbarb0503@...

> <mailto:macbarb0503@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Good%20Morning>

> westieabbey <westieabbey>

>

>

> Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:39 am (PST)

>

>

>

>

> Thank you . And you said Chuck was the smart one. Thanks. I

> wonder if that means I should wait 6 weeks, until all of it is gone.

> That's how long it would have been when he said wait another month.

> After I told the doctor I'd already been off of it two weeks, he said

> wait three more. Maybe I should have jut kept quiet, and done what he

> said.

>

> Barb

>

> Re: Good Morning

>

> IIRC the half life of T4 is about a week. If I'm looking at it right

> about 97% should be gone in 5 weeks.

>

> Luck,

>

> .

> .

>

> > Posted by: " H " macbarb0503@... <mailto:macbarb0503%40aol.com>

> > <mailto:macbarb0503@...

> <mailto:macbarb0503%40aol.com>?Subject=%20Re%

> 3A%20Good%20Morning>

> > westieabbey <westieabbey

> <westieabbey>>

> >

> >

> > Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:08 pm (PST)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > You're right Roni. I called the office today and asked how when to

> > have the blood work done changed from let's do it now, to wait a

> > month. The nurse checked with the doctor, called back and said he

> > wants to make sure it's out of my system. When I told her I'd already

> > been off of the meds 2 weeks, the doctor said wait three more. So, I

> > guess after five weeks they think it will all be gone.

> >

> > Barb

[Guest guest]

Barb,

You wrote:

>

> ... Since I would only have to be off the medication three weeks for the

> uptake test and scan, why would I wait six weeks from the time I stopped

> taking the medication for further blood work to check FREE T3, FREE T4,

> and REVERSE T3? ...

He is checking to see whether you really need the medication at all.

This is what several of us suggested on this list.

The half life for T4 is about a week, and TSH responds slowly to those

changes. So, it takes at least 6-10 weeks to return to an untreated

equilibrium state. That would be appropriate for all those other tests,

too.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Roni,

You wrote:

> I just reread my post below, and I made a typo. It's the conversion from

> the T4 that shows

> high Reverse T3 if the conversion is not happening properly. By taking

> the levothyroxine,

> if you are not converting properly it will show up. I don't know whether

> or not it will show

> up if you are on nothing.

>

It will be apparent in a raised ratio of RT3 to T3. However, this does

become more pronounced with excess T4.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Barb,

You wrote:

>

> ... Does anyone know of anything that could cause a high TSH reading

> temporarily?

>

1. Lab error, e.g. switching samples, bad reagents, contaminated glass

ware, etc.

2. Dehydration, although it would have to be pretty extreme to make TSH

change by a factor of 8.

3. A big slug of iodine or iodine based dye about a week before the

test. This can cause a temporary drop in T4 production (Wolff-Chaikoff

effect), which eventually results in a high TSH to restore thyroid

function.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

The last RT3 test I had (I'm still on T3 only) showed my RT3 at <25. To me this

means that the T3 is doing it's job and the hormone is getting into the cells.

Is this conclusion correct or is there anything else about which I should be

cognizent?

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

 

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

> I just reread my post below, and I made a typo. It's the conversion from

> the T4 that shows

> high Reverse T3 if the conversion is not happening properly. By taking

> the levothyroxine,

> if you are not converting properly it will show up. I don't know whether

> or not it will show

> up if you are on nothing.

>

It will be apparent in a raised ratio of RT3 to T3. However, this does

become more pronounced with excess T4.

Chuck

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[Guest guest]

Roni,

You wrote:

> The last RT3 test I had (I'm still on T3 only) showed my RT3 at <25. To

> me this means that the T3 is doing it's job and the hormone is getting

> into the cells. Is this conclusion correct or is there anything else

> about which I should be cognizent?

I just wish we knew why too much of your T4 converted to RT3 in the

first place. It could help in deciding when or if to try T4 again.

Chuck