Good Morning

[Guest guest]

Hi Ray,

Yes Joe is in the origional study group.... Ray there is no reason

to change that! I guess you are weeding thru the group of us that 1st

started Hepatico.... He benefits from it...... His thing is traditional

treatment..... He is against it..... That is his choice........ Leave it

like it is......

Love Ya,

Diane

[Guest guest]

Ok diane I will leave it like it is but alta natural wants some particapation from him in order to keep supplying him with hepatico. I cant call or e-mail him and he has left the hepatico1 group. I am really in a fix. I want to keep up doing what were doing but I have to let alta know where we are all the time. They wont send it to him for july because they asked me to fill them on a few things as for joe and I cant. Could you please contact joe and tell him I need his help.

R.R. Norman Life should not be measured by the number of breaths you take, but rather, by the number of events that take your breath away."

Toll free - 866-472-4552 ravensara [ravensara@...] http://www.hepatico-usa.com ICQ #105879970

-----Original Message-----From: diane214@... [mailto:diane214@...]Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 6:10 AM Subject: RE: [ ] Good MorningHi Ray, Yes Joe is in the origional study group.... Ray there is no reasonto change that! I guess you are weeding thru the group of us that 1ststarted Hepatico.... He benefits from it...... His thing is traditionaltreatment..... He is against it..... That is his choice........ Leave itlike it is......Love Ya, Diane

[Guest guest]

DZ

I will stick around. At least tell we all find a way to get rid of this dam dragon. I am not against any treatment as its what works for who. I do what I do and some here do the same. Mostely because we dont have a choice. I do miss joe and dont know what I did personaly to be treated like this. ALL I have ever done is try to help and he wont even answer me in a personal e-mail. Now I am in trouble with some othere who were depending on info from me. Its a long story. I am glad to be here and please lets keep in touch.

R.R. Norman Life should not be measured by the number of breaths you take, but rather, by the number of events that take your breath away."

Toll free - 866-472-4552 ravensara [ravensara@...] http://www.hepatico-usa.com ICQ #105879970

Re: [ ] Good Morning> > > Hi Vicky,> No!!!! You did not offend me at all..... I> guess I just wanted to> get out some pent up emotions but it was nothing> personal at all....> Thank you for showing concern......> Lynn!!!!! Welcome aboard cutie......You too> Ray!!!! Glad to have you> both here.......> > Angel Hugs,> Diane> > >

[Guest guest]

dz my mental toughnes is slowly slipping away. I feel I can't fight anymore. I am tired. I know you can relate. I look in a mirror and see notghing or no one looking back anymore.

[Guest guest]

So do I. We need everyone here. We don't need any one to leave. We just neeed as many as we can to join.

[Guest guest]

I hate to jump into a conversation I know nothing about but Please remember were all in this togeather and although were all in different phases were all here for each other. PLEASE As long as were here were able to fight and fight I will. But I need everyones help. Remember you only lose if you quit and I plan and someday beating this dragons butt.

R.R. Norman Life should not be measured by the number of breaths you take, but rather, by the number of events that take your breath away."

Toll free - 866-472-4552 ravensara [ravensara@...] http://www.hepatico-usa.com ICQ #105879970

-----Original Message-----From: Jannewilms42@... [mailto:Jannewilms42@...]Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Good Morningdz my mental toughnes is slowly slipping away. I feel I can't fight anymore. I am tired. I know you can relate. I look in a mirror and see notghing or no one looking back anymore.

[Guest guest]

Hi DZ

Joe is more than welcome to join and contribute to this group. I also needed

and enjoyed some of the things that he had to say.

Re: [ ] Good Morning

> >

> >

> > Hi Vicky,

> > No!!!! You did not offend me at all..... I

> > guess I just wanted to

> > get out some pent up emotions but it was nothing

> > personal at all....

> > Thank you for showing concern......

> > Lynn!!!!! Welcome aboard cutie......You too

> > Ray!!!! Glad to have you

> > both here.......

> >

> > Angel Hugs,

> > Diane

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

There are many demons to battle besides the dragon. I

know Joe is a very loving person, you could tell by

the thoughtfulness of his posts, but I could see him

on several occasions sink into a very black mood. I

will pray for him to see his way through whatever

troubles are behind his disappearance. -dz-

--- ravensara <ravensara@...> wrote:

> DZ

> I will stick around. At least tell we all find a way

> to get rid of this dam

> dragon. I am not against any treatment as its what

> works for who. I do what

> I do and some here do the same. Mostely because we

> dont have a choice. I do

> miss joe and dont know what I did personaly to be

> treated like this. ALL I

> have ever done is try to help and he wont even

> answer me in a personal

> e-mail. Now I am in trouble with some othere who

> were depending on info from

> me. Its a long story. I am glad to be here and

> please lets keep in touch.

>

> R.R. Norman

> Life should not be measured by the number of breaths

> you take, but rather,

> by the number of events that take your breath away. "

>

> Toll free - 866-472-4552

> ravensara [ravensara@...]

> http://www.hepatico-usa.com

> ICQ #105879970

>

> Re: [ ] Good

> Morning

> >

> >

> > Hi Vicky,

> > No!!!! You did not offend me at all..... I

> > guess I just wanted to

> > get out some pent up emotions but it was

> nothing

> > personal at all....

> > Thank you for showing concern......

> > Lynn!!!!! Welcome aboard cutie......You too

> > Ray!!!! Glad to have you

> > both here.......

> >

> > Angel Hugs,

> > Diane

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

You've got to hang on, Janet. You are a part of divine

creation and even though we all feel like giving up

from time to time, we cannot. Some of us DO have to

give up on the tx and try an alternative, I'm not

talking about that. Try to remember there's a door up

ahead, not a wall. -dz-

--- Jannewilms42@... wrote:

> dz my mental toughnes is slowly slipping away. I

> feel I can't fight anymore.

> I am tired. I know you can relate. I look in a

> mirror and see notghing or no

> one looking back anymore.

>

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[Guest guest]

Truer words have not been spoken the door is open with

an outstretched hand, beckoning to come in and share

your load, together we can carry it. -dz-

--- Jannewilms42@... wrote:

> So do I. We need everyone here. We don't need any

> one to leave. We just neeed

> as many as we can to join.

>

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[Guest guest]

dz so will I. Joe had wonderful words to share. I wish he would join us here. Thanks for your kind words DZ. Sometimes it feels like a wall and not a door. Do you understand. I know God doesn't give us more than we can handle but it sure seems like we can't pick our heads up out of our difficulties enough to catch our breath before we are engulfed once again. I am tired DZ. I honestly don't know if I have much fight left.

[Guest guest]

You'd better have fight left . . .and lots of it. You know, when I begin treatment I am going to look at yall and all of yall for the wonderful support I've seen here in this group. We may not be called "family" in the name of our group but that still doesn't take away the fact that we all are family . . . at least that's what I thought.

Always,

SJ

[Guest guest]

Jan,

Try not to dwell on all the sides. I know your tired, I've got 8 refills left and I'm tired too. I want to give up sometimes too but that is only when I'm looking ahead. Try to live one day at a time. If your tired, than rest and know that the meds are kicking some hep-c butt.

Vicky

[Guest guest]

You know it is one thing to fight this disease and then it is another to fight life in general when you have so many opponets. What ever happened to the having a nice quiet life when we age?? I haven't seen it. It seems as though as I age more crap pops up and then so does alot more and also the dragon fight!!! Yes I am tired, yes I am depressed and yes I am mad. More mad than I have ever been but there isn't enough fight. I have always had to fight to make it in this world and thought by now the fight wouldn't be so hard but it seems harder. No I don't mean to depress anyone and maybe I should stay off for a llittle hile to try and get my head straight. I don't even know if that would help cause you guys are the ones that help give me that push I need, so I don't know what to do. There aren't even any tears left to cry.

[Guest guest]

Hang in there Jan. I know that the tx is worse for some people, but you can make it.I'll keep praying for the Lord to give you strength.

Re: [ ] Good Morning

dz so will I. Joe had wonderful words to share. I wish he would join us here. Thanks for your kind words DZ. Sometimes it feels like a wall and not a door. Do you understand. I know God doesn't give us more than we can handle but it sure seems like we can't pick our heads up out of our difficulties enough to catch our breath before we are engulfed once again. I am tired DZ. I honestly don't know if I have much fight left.

[Guest guest]

Diane, I'm very happy he has and took this

opportunity, when I went into recovery that was all I

wanted, too. Just to be able to fell normal and

function. I wanted the bad stuff to stop. I got so

much more than that and I'm still only beginning.

-dz-

--- diane214@... wrote:

> Hi dz.... the program my son is in makes you come

> every day and they

> medicate you there.... If you are late they refuse

> to give you the meth.

> He pays $11 a day for treatment and $40. for

> counceling there.... The

> ones on Welfare and Medicaid get it for free.... My

> son has no prison or

> jail facing him.... He just wants to feel normal and

> be able to

> function.... Thank you for sharing your story..

>

> Angel Hugs,

> Diane

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Janet, I guess nobody can ever be sure they know what

another is going through, but I have doubted my will

to fight on, too. But I got through that and I'm back

in the game. It's not how many times you fall down

that counts, just that you pick yourself back up each

time. The fight is in you, sometimes you have to dig

deep to find it. -dz-

--- Jannewilms42@... wrote:

> dz so will I. Joe had wonderful words to share. I

> wish he would join us here.

> Thanks for your kind words DZ. Sometimes it feels

> like a wall and not a door.

> Do you understand. I know God doesn't give us more

> than we can handle but it

> sure seems like we can't pick our heads up out of

> our difficulties enough to

> catch our breath before we are engulfed once again.

> I am tired DZ. I honestly

> don't know if I have much fight left.

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[Guest guest]

SJ, we need to stick together as a family. Working

together, for each other, the group becomes an entity

of its own and stronger than the sum of it's parts. We

make a fearsome opponent to that nasty old dragon.

-dz-

--- MrsDHANDSOME1@... wrote:

> You'd better have fight left . . .and lots of it.

> You know, when I begin

> treatment I am going to look at yall and all of yall

> for the wonderful

> support I've seen here in this group. We may not be

> called " family " in the

> name of our group but that still doesn't take away

> the fact that we all are

> family . . . at least that's what I thought.

>

> Always,

> SJ

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Jan,

You are not going anywhere..... We all feel the same way and the

reason for this group is to reach out........We need the support of one

another..... I am sorry that I haven't been here for you but my son and

Grandson came in frm Florida and we have been down the campground......

Turn that anger an frustration into something positive and show that

Dragon that you are not a quitter..... Darn Jan.... This would be a

perfect time to write a few lines foe dz's song....... Sending Love and

Special prayers to you sweetie!!!!!

Hello everyone...... I don't know what is going on because I haven't

been out here or been home for that matter.... Hope everyone is doing

well and I will say special prayers for our circle of Family Support

Group........

Angel Hugs,

Diane

[Guest guest]

dz you are alwys coming up with something!! I just love it. Keep it up DZ.

[Guest guest]

Hi Jan

You don't need to stay away at all. This is the place that you need to be. Try not to think about how bad the sides make you feel. I used to think that life in general was nothing but pain and sorrow. People would tell me how I was never going to amount to much of anything. Well one day I decided that it didn't matter what others thought about me. I started trying at least one thing each day to be thankful for and pretty soon My whole outlook on things started to change. The tough times didn't bother me as much and I started to enjoy life more each day. The past is gone and can't be changed. The future hasn't happened yet. All that we have is the very moment in which we find ourselves, so we ought to make the very best of it.

I know that I'm not very good at expressing my thoughts in words, but just remember that we are all here to offer any support that we can.

Re: [ ] Good Morning

You know it is one thing to fight this disease and then it is another to fight life in general when you have so many opponets. What ever happened to the having a nice quiet life when we age?? I haven't seen it. It seems as though as I age more crap pops up and then so does alot more and also the dragon fight!!! Yes I am tired, yes I am depressed and yes I am mad. More mad than I have ever been but there isn't enough fight. I have always had to fight to make it in this world and thought by now the fight wouldn't be so hard but it seems harder. No I don't mean to depress anyone and maybe I should stay off for a llittle hile to try and get my head straight. I don't even know if that would help cause you guys are the ones that help give me that push I need, so I don't know what to do. There aren't even any tears left to cry.

[Guest guest]

A man is judged by the strength of his opponents.

(that is non-gender specific, man). Hang in there,

fight the good fight. They say you finally get to an

age where you have your head together, then your body

starts falling apart. When you feel like you can't go

on, that's when you find hidden strength. -dz-

--- Jannewilms42@... wrote:

> You know it is one thing to fight this disease and

> then it is another to

> fight life in general when you have so many

> opponets. What ever happened to

> the having a nice quiet life when we age?? I haven't

> seen it. It seems as

> though as I age more crap pops up and then so does

> alot more and also the

> dragon fight!!! Yes I am tired, yes I am depressed

> and yes I am mad. More mad

> than I have ever been but there isn't enough fight.

> I have always had to

> fight to make it in this world and thought by now

> the fight wouldn't be so

> hard but it seems harder. No I don't mean to depress

> anyone and maybe I

> should stay off for a llittle hile to try and get my

> head straight. I don't

> even know if that would help cause you guys are the

> ones that help give me

> that push I need, so I don't know what to do. There

> aren't even any tears

> left to cry.

>

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[Guest guest]

--- Jannewilms42@... wrote:

> You know it is one thing to fight this disease and

> then it is another to

> fight life in general when you have so many

> opponets. What ever happened to

> the having a nice quiet life when we age?? I haven't

> seen it. It seems as

> though as I age more crap pops up and then so does

> alot more and also the

> dragon fight!!! Yes I am tired, yes I am depressed

> and yes I am mad. More mad

> than I have ever been but there isn't enough fight.

> I have always had to

> fight to make it in this world and thought by now

> the fight wouldn't be so

> hard but it seems harder. No I don't mean to depress

> anyone and maybe I

> should stay off for a llittle hile to try and get my

> head straight. I don't

> even know if that would help cause you guys are the

> ones that help give me

> that push I need, so I don't know what to do. There

> aren't even any tears

> left to cry.

>

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[Guest guest]

I feel sick in the morning,

tired at night,

But don't think for one minute,

I'm giving up the fight

Got them hepatitis blues baby,

you know what I'm talkin' about,

I sure am down mama,

But don't count me out.

-dz-

--- diane214@... wrote:

Darn Jan....

> This would be a

> perfect time to write a few lines foe dz's

> song....... Sending Love and

> Special prayers to you sweetie!!!!!

> Hello everyone...... I don't know what is going

> on because I haven't

> been out here or been home for that matter.... Hope

> everyone is doing

> well and I will say special prayers for our circle

> of Family Support

> Group........

>

> Angel Hugs,

> Diane

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hey dz,

That song is taking off real fast!!!! You go boy!!!!!! ;o

Diane