Guest guest Posted June 20, 2000 Report Share Posted June 20, 2000 This MAY bring Pat out, but I'm not to sure. I really miss her posts, and hope that she gets her problems straightened out, and can have more time online. I know she reads everyone's posts and wants to answer them, but between moving, work, and a sick friend, she is up to her neck. Have a piece of chocolate for Pat!!! a ----- Original Message ----- From: Elaine <elainer@...> RA < egroups> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 2:47 PM Subject: [ ] Chocolate > Dear friends, > > Couldn't RESIST sending this.. Certain people on the list > are " chocoholics " .. have to keep them on their toes!!!!!! > > God Bless you > elaine > > TAKE TWO CHOCOLATES AND CALL ME IN THE MORNING > It's so much a part of our culture that we lose sight of the fact > that, like coffee or tea, chocolate is an herbal medicine. But before you > start " self-medicating " get the scoop on its history and addictive > qualities. > http://onhealth.com/ch1/mt.asp?t=/alternative/columnist/item$92532.asp & s=2 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > @Backup- Protect and Access your data any time, any where on the net. > Try @Backup FREE and receive 300 points from mypoints.com Install now: > 1/5666/6/_/478567/_/961526643/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > URL to change your membership options: /group/ > RA-support website: http://www.rasupport.webprovider.com/ > Our chat room: www.delphi.com/RheumatoidArth1/start > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2002 Report Share Posted May 2, 2002 Terence wrote: > But I eat only pure bakers's chocolate, or pure > cococoa powder hot chocolate. No added refined sugar. If you like dark > chocolate, it comes no darker than baker's! Terence: Isn't the dark chocolate sweetened? Pure chocolate without sweetener is bitter. I make my own chocolate with cocoa (unsweetened), sucralose, water, and some Brewer's Yeast thrown in, Warm a bit and ladle over a small amt of fat free, sugar free ice cream for a CR hot fudge sundae! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2002 Report Share Posted May 4, 2002 If you like chocolate try Sherm's Bingeing Brownies,,,, I cook them once every 2 weeks and have made them a staple of my diet.... His Mega-muffins rock too.... taste good, and good for you... JR crsociety/files/Recipes/Sherm%27s%20Bingeing%20Brownies%201.0 crsociety/files/Recipes/Mega%20Muffins%203.6 -----Original Message-----From: Francesca Skelton [mailto:fskelton@...]Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 12:57 PMsupport groupSubject: [ ] chocolateTerri: bought the baker's (non-sweetened chocolate) and I have to be honestand tell you it's not for everyone. Without sweetener chocolate is yechhh!!I hope you're not a masochist :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2002 Report Share Posted May 4, 2002 Francesca Skelton wrote: > [...] non-sweetened chocolate [...is] not for everyone. > Without sweetener chocolate is yechhh!! It usually seems too bitter to me, also. There are two exceptions that I like and keep a large supply of. One is Michel Cluizel Noir Infini Couverture Pastilles, which contain less than 1% sugar (and spice). These taste incredibly good just as they are. The pastilles are quite small, yet one or two is usually quite satisfying. They are expensive, but this seems less important for something that is consumed in small quantities and lasts a long time. http://www.chocosphere.com/Html/Products/michelcluizel.html The other exception is cacao nibs. Both Scharffern Berger and El Rey Chocolates make them. Even though it seems as though they should taste just as bitter as unsweetened chocolate, they don't. Besides eating them directly, I also like to drop maybe 1/2 tsp in a mug of sucralose-sweetened cocoa powder with hot water. http://www.scharffenberger.com/products/nibs/ http://www.chocolate-elrey.com/retail/description.html Todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2002 Report Share Posted May 5, 2002 > I get more so much pleasure out of the sweetness of a freshsalad > that I feel great pangs of pity for any " masochists " who love sugar and deny > themselves their true love. > > Have yourself a cup of hot unsweetened chocolate, and enjoy! > > Terry Terry: we mere mortals can only admire the CR heights you have risen to and aspire to someday reach them. I'm not there yet; have you been on CR since '74 the year you say you gave up sugar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2004 Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 Thanks for the good article Rodney! The article seems to be referring to processed chocolate candy-type. Isn't fat added to those processed products? Not sure. http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-001-02s047y.html The unsweetened cocoa powder alone isn't so high in calories or fat IMO. http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-001-02s047z.html Of course, I only use one Tbs at a time. I'm encouraged to have a drink of that today. OTOH, the candy bar type is already made & is easier to eat. I could certainly eat far more of the candy bar type than the drinks/foods I make with the cocoa. Rodney wrote: >Hi folks: > >More indications that chocolate (especially de-fatted?!) may be quite >healthy: > >http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/08/29/chocolate.health.ap/index.h >tml > >http://snipurl.com/8qsu > >Rodney. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2004 Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 For a low cal chocolate treat, just take a TBS or so of unsweetened cocoa, add sucralose and a few drops of water making it into a thick chocolaty mixture. Ymmmmm on 8/30/2004 7:25 AM, Rodney at perspect1111@... wrote: > Hi folks: > > More indications that chocolate (especially de-fatted?!) may be quite > healthy: > > http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/08/29/chocolate.health.ap/index.h > tml > > http://snipurl.com/8qsu > > Rodney. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 <snip> > have been a vegetarian for over 25 years, but a couple years ago > I decided to splurge and buy myself my first Tofurkey. I whipped > up some homemade gravy, a salad and veggies and had a > delightful meal. I had leftovers for sandwiches that week, and I > felt just like I celebrated Thanksgiving just like everyone > else;-). Girl, I went a bit longer without eating meat and no, I never would have mistaken a tofurky to come anything close to real turkey in taste. My mother made the mistake a couple years back to get one for her " ethical " vegetarian grandchildren (a crowd who doesn't dwell on nutrition. Their rule for meals seems to be " anything that never had a face. I'll spare you all my rant on THAT subject.) Long story short, the thing gave the dog one heck of a case of gas. On Thanksgiving there's usually enough dishes that fit the " comfort food " catagory that no one would miss eating bird. For a fancy main dish on the table I'd stuff a pumpkin and bake it. Penel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 Hi all, I purchased chocolate in it's raw form (cocoa nibs) from Nature's first law. Only because it's the richest form of magnesium in food that I can find. I had symptoms of a magnesium deficiency (eye twitches and muscle twitches, insomnia some depression) before. Even though I was never diagnosed, I started taking magnesium supplements like someone on here suggested to me, and the symptoms went away thus my conclusion. The point is, I feel the uneasiness on my right side after I eat this raw dark pure organic form of chocolate. I wonder why chocolate triggers gallbladder attacks? Is it just the fact that it's naturally high in fat? I'm starting to make a connection between raw plant fats and gallblader attacks. Only because when I was a raw-foodist, I consumed a lot of raw nuts and since dark chocolate is like a raw nut full of fat etc. could it be the reason why it trigers gallstone attacks. Eating lots of raw almonds, macadamia nuts and cashew nuts to the exclusion of animal fats could cause gallstones. Maybe plan fats are hard on the body? And maybe they're especially hard in their raw form When I was a raw-foodist, I read extensively about it and they always suggested 8 hours of soaking for raw nuts to release enzyme inhibitors and since I never had the patience to soak my nuts maybe that was the problem. Hnece why many vegetarians/vegans/rawfoodist experience gallbladder issues. Any other super forms of magnesium out there besides Kale that actually tastes good? Is the dark chocolate just stimulating my gallbladder and therefore is good for me or should I just avoid it altogether? Not sure what to do here __________________________________ Discover Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check it out! http://discover./weekend.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 , in my book healing with whole foods by Pitchford, he says the food that has the highest amount of magnesium is green foods: " green foods are rich in magnesium because the mineral is positioned at the center of every chlorophyll molecule " . He is a big proponent of chlorella and spirulina etc. I too was magnesium deficient for years and take mag supplements. They worked great to keep me regular but I had to take really high doses. I felt there was something wrong; that it wasn't natural to need to take so much, so I did more research. A person needs to have adequate B6 in order to assimilate mag so I started taking B6. this didn't seem to make a difference until I started taking the active form of B6 which is P5P. The difference was dramatic. I now take a more reasonable amount of mag. I theorize that I am unable to convert B6 to its active form and have basically had this problem my entire life. Sally Fallon in Nourishing Traditions suggests that lack of B6 is rampant in North America as one of the sources for it is raw milk which we no longer get. Another interesting sideline to this is that B6 is needed to make taurine, a very important amino acid for making bile. This is why I believe I have gall bladder problems today; insufficient bile over these many years. This is also what I attribute to my high copper/mercury levels since this is how a person normally gets rid of these metals. ne -----Original Message----- From: gallstones [mailto:gallstones ]On Behalf Of denise milfort Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 10:45 AM gallstones Subject: Re: chocolate Hi all, I purchased chocolate in it's raw form (cocoa nibs) from Nature's first law. Only because it's the richest form of magnesium in food that I can find. I had symptoms of a magnesium deficiency (eye twitches and muscle twitches, insomnia some depression) before. Even though I was never diagnosed, I started taking magnesium supplements like someone on here suggested to me, and the symptoms went away thus my conclusion. The point is, I feel the uneasiness on my right side after I eat this raw dark pure organic form of chocolate. I wonder why chocolate triggers gallbladder attacks? Is it just the fact that it's naturally high in fat? I'm starting to make a connection between raw plant fats and gallblader attacks. Only because when I was a raw-foodist, I consumed a lot of raw nuts and since dark chocolate is like a raw nut full of fat etc. could it be the reason why it trigers gallstone attacks. Eating lots of raw almonds, macadamia nuts and cashew nuts to the exclusion of animal fats could cause gallstones. Maybe plan fats are hard on the body? And maybe they're especially hard in their raw form When I was a raw-foodist, I read extensively about it and they always suggested 8 hours of soaking for raw nuts to release enzyme inhibitors and since I never had the patience to soak my nuts maybe that was the problem. Hnece why many vegetarians/vegans/rawfoodist experience gallbladder issues. Any other super forms of magnesium out there besides Kale that actually tastes good? Is the dark chocolate just stimulating my gallbladder and therefore is good for me or should I just avoid it altogether? Not sure what to do here __________________________________ Discover Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check it out! http://discover./weekend.html Learn more from our experience, over 7.000 liver flush stories: http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=4 http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=80 http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=100 http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=112 Liver Cleanse Recipe: http://CureZone.com/cleanse/liver/ Liver Flush FAQ: http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=73 Images: http://CureZone.com/image_gallery/cleanse_flush/ http://CureZone.com/image_gallery/intrahepatic_stones/ To unsubscribe, send blank e-mail to: gallstones-unsubscribe and then reply to confirmation message! To Post message: gallstones Subscribe: gallstones-subscribe Web Sites for more information: http://CureZone.org http://www.liverdoctor.com/ http://www.sensiblehealth.com/ http://www.cyberpog.com/health/index.htm http://www.relfe.com/gall_stone_cleanse.html http://www.cleansingorsurgery.com/ Group page: gallstones To change your subscription to digest send blank e-mail to: gallstones-digest To change your subscription to NO-MAIL send blank e-mail to: gallstones-nomail To change your subscription to NORMAL send blank e-mail to: gallstones-normal You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the Gallstones group on 's groups. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself! Have a nice day ! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 ne, what is P5P? I have the book by Sally Fallon (fabulous book by the way) and I do drink raw goat's milk although not as much lately because I'm concerned about even raw dairy's affect on my gallbladder. Was the B6 in all raw milk or just cow's milk? I'm flipping through the book right now to get that information but I wanted to find out about the P5P. Thanks. Lori ----- Original Message ----- From: ne gallstones Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 2:46 PM Subject: RE: Re: chocolate A person needs to have adequate B6 in order to assimilate mag so I started taking B6. this didn't seem to make a difference until I started taking the active form of B6 which is P5P. The difference was dramatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Lori, I don't know off hand what P5P stands for but if you enter it into goggle you will get the long version of it. Most health food stores know of it by this abbreviated version. Sally Fallon says that the best way to get B6 is by eating raw liver which she even admitted not many people want to do. I don't know if it is just cows milk that has it but I suspect not. Did you find out any more information in the book that was useful? I feel that Nourishing Traditions is the one cookbook that every new mother should have in the hopes that children will be raised on healthy foods right from the start. Another interesting sidenote about B6 and liver is that I know of a vitamin protocol for people with MS called the Klenner Protocol which treats fatigue. The two main ingredients are B1 and liver injections. I wonder if the purpose for the liver injections is to get active B6? Active B6 wouldn't of been available 20 years or so ago when the protocol came out so the doctor came up with the next best thing. ne -----Original Message----- From: gallstones [mailto:gallstones ]On Behalf Of Lori Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 2:20 PM gallstones Subject: Re: Re: chocolate ne, what is P5P? I have the book by Sally Fallon (fabulous book by the way) and I do drink raw goat's milk although not as much lately because I'm concerned about even raw dairy's affect on my gallbladder. Was the B6 in all raw milk or just cow's milk? I'm flipping through the book right now to get that information but I wanted to find out about the P5P. Thanks. Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 ne, thanks for all your info. I sort of got distracted by life, so no I haven't gotten back to the book. That's interesting about the raw liver. I have had raw liver before (maybe when I first got the book) but the only way I could down it was to blend it with some fresh squeezed tomato juice and a goodly amount of cayenne pepper and some tamari sauce. It didn't taste to bad then. It's been awhile since I've gone that route mostly because I don't want to gross my housemates out. :-) I was living by myself when I did it before. Lori ----- Original Message ----- From: ne gallstones Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 12:38 PM Subject: RE: Re: chocolate Sally Fallon says that the best way to get B6 is by eating raw liver which she even admitted not many people want to do. I don't know if it is just cows milk that has it but I suspect not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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