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In a message dated 7/26/00 11:13:45 PM, blue@... writes:

<< I've read somewhere that

nitrates are prevalent in meats. >>

In preserved meats like bacon, lunchmeat, hot dogs, etc. They are listed on

the label if present.

<<Does that include poultry?>>

They are not in anything fresh. I strongly suggest organic food or lacking

access to that " natural " food where the word natural actually means something

(by law anyone can use it if they feel like being fraudulent). Organic pork

is pricey, beef somewhat expensive, but chickens are still pretty cheap even

though they are more than the almost free " regular " chickens. They also

taste a LOT better.

<<What do you think? Is fish a big no no? If so, what can replace it? >>

Depends on the fish and how sensitive you think your kid is. But NO tuna!

Andy

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<< Japan >>

Oh. Duh. Sorry! Ignore the last post. Find what kid of fish are little

fish that don't eat other fish and don't live near the shore - those are the

lowest mercury fish.

Andy

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Barry,

I can only speak from our experience. I, too, thought fish a wonderful

source of proteins and essential fatty acids. Most of my family's and my

husband's family's ancestors came from northern Europe and were therefore

fish eaters, so I even felt that we were eating like we were " genetically

programmed " to eat.

Then, a year ago, my then-ten son began having seizures after a period of

particularly heavy fish consumption and cod liver oil supplementation.

Something like a third of kids with autism eventually develop seizures,

often before puberty...but still, I wondered.

Perhaps it was a fish allergy. Perhaps it was a fatty acid imbalance made

worse by thyroid problems (he had both, on conventional medical testing.)

Perhaps it was mercury. I do know that he still had seizures after eating

fish while on Depakote and

still had seizures after eating low-fat tropical fish.

I also know of a local family whose autistic son is the most aggressive I

have met. He has always eaten a lot of canned tuna, has a few mercury

fillings (and a root canal or two, as I recall.) and his mother had quite a

few amalgams herself.

Personally, I would remove all fish and seafood from your son's diet, at

least on a trial basis. There are beans and legumes, meats and poultry,

seeds and other such sources of protein. Of course, I would not recommend

milk or gluten, being a firm advocate of the gluten-free casein-free diet!

Let us know what works for him. Anecdotes help everyone who follows.

Lorilyn

[ ] Fish

> Hi,

>

> I have a couple of questions regarding diet. I feel that my 2 and a half

> year old son, ASD, currently gfcf, may have mercury issues; I'm are still

> finding out about testing.

> He has always eaten a great deal of fish, at least 4-5 times a week. I

> always considered fish a healthy source of protein and was always keen to

> see he got plenty. Now, if I stop his fish intake, what would be the best

> way to replace his protein and fatty acid needs. I've read somewhere that

> nitrates are prevalent in meats. Does that include poultry?

>

> What do you think? Is fish a big no no? If so, what can replace it?

>

> Barry

>

>

> Japan

>

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I know of a couple of cases of organic mercury poisoning that very clearly

came from adults eating large amounts of " top of the food chain " fish over

some years, and of a third case where this is by far the most likely cause.

Andy

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<< I can only speak from our experience. I, too, thought fish a

wonderful source of proteins and essential fatty acids. Most of my

family's and my husband's family's ancestors came from northern

Europe and were therefore fish eaters, so I even felt that we were

eating like we were " genetically programmed " to eat.

Based on that theory, LOL, my family should be able to eat anything

dead or alive.....I am of Hungarian heritage from Transylvania !!

Watch out !

Jeannie

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We have a FISH group here in suburban Philly as well. Both my mother and I

were on the telephone squad. One doesn't have to leave the house to

volunteer for FISH. We found it interesting and satisfying work. I stopped

when I went to work full time and my mother stopped when she went into the

nursing home. My cousin is very active in finding homes for the homeless.

And my uncle, age 80, a former accountant, volunteers once a week to work on

the financial matters.

Joan

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Matt wrote:

Something they didn't mention is that studies show significant health

benefits from low-fat fish as well, casting doubt on the hypothesis that

the health benefits come from omega 3 alone.

Thanks for the post.

Matt: please tell us more about this!

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Francesca,

I heard that from Dr Weil. I'll see if I can find a reference.

It makes intuitive sense though, because the healthiest populations

(e.g. the Okinawans) don't have the best access to deep cold water

fish.

-Matt

>

> Something they didn't mention is that studies show significant

health

> benefits from low-fat fish as well, casting doubt on the

hypothesis that

> the health benefits come from omega 3 alone.

>

> Thanks for the post.

>

>

> Matt: please tell us more about this!

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Do you get these locally at meat/sea food stores or online?? My

doctor recommended Mahi Mahi as a fish I wouldn't have to worry about

regarding mercury. (I have slightly high mercury in blood also)

--- In , " Page, " <pageang@l...>

wrote:

> Yes Mahi Mahi I believe is like...dolphin, and deep sea too.

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: on behalf of barb1283

> >

> Where do you get a fish like tilapia? Is Mahi Mahi a deep sea

fish?

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