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Sure you can count "Total" (anything but manna and mother's milk) but now you have to explain why you think that is the ONE food that will keep you alive the in the desert longer than any one food. (For the sake of the game, let's also presume that a constant source of water is available.)

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on 7/21/2002 9:51 PM, Suzanne Cart at massuz@... wrote:

> Sure you can count " Total " (anything but manna and mother's milk) but now you

> have to explain why you think that is the ONE food that will keep you alive

> the in the desert longer than any one food. (For the sake of the game, let's

> also presume that a constant source of water is available.)

>

> Suz

Only because they tout it as having 100% of all the vitamins and minerals

(but from past posts on the subject, not everyone believes that the claim

can be counted on). But I'll be interested in hearing what others come up

with, since presumably these would be the foods we should all be eating!

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Who ever said that Ben & Jerry's isn't the perfect food???? Of course it

is!!

Kenda

> You mean Ben and Jerry's is not the perfect food?

> (I have to start joking around or I would be crying today - roof leaking, room

> flooding...oy

> oy oy)

>

>

>>>

>>> I just placed my order for a new bottle of Primal Defense and I also

>>> picked up the Perfect Food. Has anyone else tried that yet? What did

>>> you think of it? I'm also wondering if the juice supplement is any

>>> good.

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> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed

> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care

> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

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A woman after my own heart. ;-)

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> >>> I just placed my order for a new bottle of Primal Defense and I also

> >>> picked up the Perfect Food. Has anyone else tried that yet? What did

> >>> you think of it? I'm also wondering if the juice supplement is any

> >>> good.

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> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

licensed

> > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care

> > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

> > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

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Whoopee! . . . Ben and Jerry's sounds like the perfect

food for a shower! . . . I'll throw in some crumb

topped pie to go with it!

I wish that was all it would take to fix your roof

though Molly. I'm so sorry! Is the tree still on your

roof?

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

--- Molly Bloom <mollyb54@...> wrote:

> You mean Ben and Jerry's is not the perfect food?

> (I have to start joking around or I would be crying

> today - roof leaking, room flooding...oy

> oy oy)

>

>

> > >

> > > I just placed my order for a new bottle of

> Primal Defense and I also

> > > picked up the Perfect Food. Has anyone else

> tried that yet? What did

> > > you think of it? I'm also wondering if the juice

> supplement is any

> > > good.

> > >

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I agree Rogene -- and maybe cyber B & J has no calories?

We got the tree off the roof today - then it started raining and water dripping

in our

library. Groooan...

The earliest roofers can come out for even an estimate is 4 weeks!!

It's incredible. I just want to move back to Colorado. sigh.

But we'll get through it, a step at a time. At least we now have electricity.

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> > > > I just placed my order for a new bottle of

> > Primal Defense and I also

> > > > picked up the Perfect Food. Has anyone else

> > tried that yet? What did

> > > > you think of it? I'm also wondering if the juice

> > supplement is any

> > > > good.

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Molly . . .

Have you seen FEMA yet? . . . I think they supply blue

plastic tarps to cover your roof until you can get

someone to fix it.

If not . . . sometimes punching a small hole in the

ceiling can let the water through in a controlled

manner - rather than letting it accumulate and bring

the ceiling down.

It's so awful! I can't imagine living through such a

mess! . . . I guess every part of the country has some

kind of natural threat! . . . Mostly it's just what we

adapt to.

Has anyone heard from Shari again?

Hugs,

Rogene

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Hang in there Molly! I hope it all gets better sooner than later.

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> > > Primal Defense and I also

> > > > > picked up the Perfect Food. Has anyone else

> > > tried that yet? What did

> > > > > you think of it? I'm also wondering if the juice

> > > supplement is any

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Another true ice cream lover -- who is now on the wagon. :(

Kenda

> A woman after my own heart. ;-)

>

>

>>>>>

>>>>> I just placed my order for a new bottle of Primal Defense and I also

>>>>> picked up the Perfect Food. Has anyone else tried that yet? What did

>>>>> you think of it? I'm also wondering if the juice supplement is any

>>>>> good.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

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>>>

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>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

>>> licensed

>>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care

>>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>>>

>>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

>>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

>>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

>>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>>>

>>>

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Hey, I am a former ice cream freak too! Ahhh, those were the days...

Patty

> >>>>

> >>>> -

> >>>>

> >>>> Hi

> >>>> I have tried perfect food. I think it is an excellent

supplement.

> >>>> HOwever, I herxed to even as small as 1/4 tsp a day on it!

But then I

> >>>> herxed to about everything until I started concentrating on

> >>>> alkalinizing my body. That appears to be helping with herxes

so I may

> >>>> try the Perfect Food again. I have an entire container.

> >>>> Hugs,kathy

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> -- In , " ktitko " <ktitko@y...>

wrote:

> >>>>>

> >>>>> I just placed my order for a new bottle of Primal Defense

and I also

> >>>>> picked up the Perfect Food. Has anyone else tried that yet?

What did

> >>>>> you think of it? I'm also wondering if the juice supplement

is any

> >>>>> good.

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given by

> >>> licensed

> >>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

health care

> >>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >>>

> >>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you.

> >>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

how to live a

> >>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

ing, two-time

> >>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >>>

> >>>

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Hmmmm, I don't know if there is such a thing as THE perfect food.

If anyone figures out what it is, please let me know! : )

Okay, well, here is " Perfect Food " from Garden of Life.

http://www.gardenoflifeusa.com/detail_perfect.shtml

Ugh, what a name! I wish it was even a little bit tasty, because it

sure doesn't go down easy! *Gag, gag*

Patty

--- In , " Molly Bloom " <mollyb54@b...>

wrote:

>

> I am taking Primal Defense and I do feel better - don't know if it

is related...

> Seriously, what is 'the perfect food'?

> Now we have electricity, I am trying to go back on 'food plan',

and sans sugar.

>

>

> --- In , " mikat828 " <mikat828@y...>

wrote:

> >

> > -

> >

> > Hi

> > I have tried perfect food. I think it is an excellent

supplement.

> > HOwever, I herxed to even as small as 1/4 tsp a day on it! But

then I

> > herxed to about everything until I started concentrating on

> > alkalinizing my body. That appears to be helping with herxes so

I may

> > try the Perfect Food again. I have an entire container.

> > Hugs,kathy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -- In , " ktitko " <ktitko@y...>

wrote:

> > >

> > > I just placed my order for a new bottle of Primal Defense and

I also

> > > picked up the Perfect Food. Has anyone else tried that yet?

What did

> > > you think of it? I'm also wondering if the juice supplement is

any

> > > good.

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Molly . . .

Primal Defense is fantastic! . . .

Perfect Food is powdered green veggies . . . I find

the taste acceptable. They do warn you that the color

and taste may vary from batch to batch. I have a hard

time getting hubby to eat green veggies - so I'm

trying this. The color bothers me more than anything

else . . . kind of a grainy green drink.

Perfect food is from Garden of Life too ..

BTW, while you were without electricity, they have set

the price Garden of Life products. No more than 30%

off . . . even on eBay! Lynda says that's not legal.

What do you think?

Hugs,

Rogene

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The city is supposed to have tarps - I am going to check in the morning.

FEMA is taking forever to get back with us. And, trying to get them on the

phone is an all

day affair!!

>

> Molly . . .

>

> Have you seen FEMA yet? . . . I think they supply blue

> plastic tarps to cover your roof until you can get

> someone to fix it.

>

> If not . . . sometimes punching a small hole in the

> ceiling can let the water through in a controlled

> manner - rather than letting it accumulate and bring

> the ceiling down.

>

> It's so awful! I can't imagine living through such a

> mess! . . . I guess every part of the country has some

> kind of natural threat! . . . Mostly it's just what we

> adapt to.

>

> Has anyone heard from Shari again?

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

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I don't know if it is legal or not. I do think it is crummy.

Perhaps there are other brands that can do the same thing. I have a bit of a

problem with

this company charging such high prices.

>

> Molly . . .

>

> Primal Defense is fantastic! . . .

>

> Perfect Food is powdered green veggies . . . I find

> the taste acceptable. They do warn you that the color

> and taste may vary from batch to batch. I have a hard

> time getting hubby to eat green veggies - so I'm

> trying this. The color bothers me more than anything

> else . . . kind of a grainy green drink.

>

> Perfect food is from Garden of Life too ..

>

> BTW, while you were without electricity, they have set

> the price Garden of Life products. No more than 30%

> off . . . even on eBay! Lynda says that's not legal.

> What do you think?

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

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Thank you all for the well wishes! I really appreciate it. I am trying to stay

upbeat about it

all, and not let it get me down. We will get through it, one step at a time.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I just placed my order for a new bottle of

> > > > Primal Defense and I also

> > > > > > picked up the Perfect Food. Has anyone else

> > > > tried that yet? What did

> > > > > > you think of it? I'm also wondering if the juice

> > > > supplement is any

> > > > > > good.

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I fear that ice cream for me is like booze for an alcoholic.

I just have to not have that first bite!

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> I just placed my order for a new bottle of Primal Defense

> and I also

> > >>>>> picked up the Perfect Food. Has anyone else tried that yet?

> What did

> > >>>>> you think of it? I'm also wondering if the juice supplement

> is any

> > >>>>> good.

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> given by

> > >>> licensed

> > >>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care

> > >>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> > >>>

> > >>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> mislead you.

> > >>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

> how to live a

> > >>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

> ing, two-time

> > >>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > >>>

> > >>>

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Molly, it probably is. I have given it up completely right now because I am

struggling with a bit of candida (am on an antibiotic). Since I am taking

Ketoconazole, an antifungal, I don't have any desire to eat it at all. I'd

bet our love of ice cream is probably partly fungal related. You have a

partner in our journey! :)

Kenda

> I fear that ice cream for me is like booze for an alcoholic.

> I just have to not have that first bite!

>

>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I just placed my order for a new bottle of Primal Defense

>> and I also

>>>>>>>> picked up the Perfect Food. Has anyone else tried that yet?

>> What did

>>>>>>>> you think of it? I'm also wondering if the juice supplement

>> is any

>>>>>>>> good.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

>> given by

>>>>>> licensed

>>>>>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

>> health care

>>>>>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

>> mislead you.

>>>>>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

>> how to live a

>>>>>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

>> ing, two-time

>>>>>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

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Molly,

I'm with you on the high price issue! . . .

I've heard some rumors about other products that are

supposed to do the job of Primal Defense . . . don't

have any specifics though.

I've found Garden of Life products to be very good! .

.. . But when you start talking about spending hundreds

of dollars every month, it gets out of reason!

Especially when you're talking about maintenance,

rather than occasional use products!

Maybe they could come up with a Garden of Life club or

something that would allow good customers a break!

This group has probably generated a lot of customers

for them. . . I wonder if they have anyone reading

this group? . . . If so - at least they know how we

feel!

Hugs,

Rogene

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I am going to start looking around for competing products.

Did you know Garden of Life was cited by the FDA for false advertising?

I like the Primal Defense, but it is ridiculously expensive. It seems to me

that this guy did

make a fortune from his recovery...but I wonder if it has become a bit of a

scam.

>

> Molly,

>

> I'm with you on the high price issue! . . .

>

> I've heard some rumors about other products that are

> supposed to do the job of Primal Defense . . . don't

> have any specifics though.

>

> I've found Garden of Life products to be very good! .

> . . But when you start talking about spending hundreds

> of dollars every month, it gets out of reason!

> Especially when you're talking about maintenance,

> rather than occasional use products!

>

> Maybe they could come up with a Garden of Life club or

> something that would allow good customers a break!

>

> This group has probably generated a lot of customers

> for them. . . I wonder if they have anyone reading

> this group? . . . If so - at least they know how we

> feel!

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

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Sometimes I think a company expands beyond it's base

(IMHO, Fungal Defense and Primal Defense) in an effort

to capitalize on it's good name. If I remember right,

when Rubin set up his company, profits were to go into

research ???? (Patient Heal Thyself)

I don't know that this is the case with Garden of Life

.. . . but, their fixing their prices makes me wonder

if money hasn't become important than health!

So many companies have falled down before the Money

God!

Hugs,

Rogene

--- Molly Bloom <mollyb54@...> wrote:

> I am going to start looking around for competing

> products.

> Did you know Garden of Life was cited by the FDA for

> false advertising?

>

> I like the Primal Defense, but it is ridiculously

> expensive. It seems to me that this guy did

> make a fortune from his recovery...but I wonder if

> it has become a bit of a scam.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Molly,

> >

> > I'm with you on the high price issue! . . .

> >

> > I've heard some rumors about other products that

> are

> > supposed to do the job of Primal Defense . . .

> don't

> > have any specifics though.

> >

> > I've found Garden of Life products to be very

> good! .

> > . . But when you start talking about spending

> hundreds

> > of dollars every month, it gets out of reason!

> > Especially when you're talking about maintenance,

> > rather than occasional use products!

> >

> > Maybe they could come up with a Garden of Life

> club or

> > something that would allow good customers a break!

> >

> > This group has probably generated a lot of

> customers

> > for them. . . I wonder if they have anyone reading

> > this group? . . . If so - at least they know how

> we

> > feel!

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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If anyone does find a comparable to the primal defense please let us

know because it is the only thing that has kept my IBS totally under

control.

> > >

> > > Molly,

> > >

> > > I'm with you on the high price issue! . . .

> > >

> > > I've heard some rumors about other products that

> > are

> > > supposed to do the job of Primal Defense . . .

> > don't

> > > have any specifics though.

> > >

> > > I've found Garden of Life products to be very

> > good! .

> > > . . But when you start talking about spending

> > hundreds

> > > of dollars every month, it gets out of reason!

> > > Especially when you're talking about maintenance,

> > > rather than occasional use products!

> > >

> > > Maybe they could come up with a Garden of Life

> > club or

> > > something that would allow good customers a break!

> > >

> > > This group has probably generated a lot of

> > customers

> > > for them. . . I wonder if they have anyone reading

> > > this group? . . . If so - at least they know how

> > we

> > > feel!

> > >

> > > Hugs,

> > >

> > > Rogene

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Rogene,

I suspect that is exactly what happened. I believe those (fungal & primal

defense) are very

good...but some of the things on there just looked like fluff ..

Just more for marketing purposes.

I am going to be looking for some lower priced products to replace fungal &

primal

defense. I won't pay the prices these cost for maintenance. That's crazy.

> > >

> > > Molly,

> > >

> > > I'm with you on the high price issue! . . .

> > >

> > > I've heard some rumors about other products that

> > are

> > > supposed to do the job of Primal Defense . . .

> > don't

> > > have any specifics though.

> > >

> > > I've found Garden of Life products to be very

> > good! .

> > > . . But when you start talking about spending

> > hundreds

> > > of dollars every month, it gets out of reason!

> > > Especially when you're talking about maintenance,

> > > rather than occasional use products!

> > >

> > > Maybe they could come up with a Garden of Life

> > club or

> > > something that would allow good customers a break!

> > >

> > > This group has probably generated a lot of

> > customers

> > > for them. . . I wonder if they have anyone reading

> > > this group? . . . If so - at least they know how

> > we

> > > feel!

> > >

> > > Hugs,

> > >

> > > Rogene

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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I will, for sure, . I am going to start looking..

> > > >

> > > > Molly,

> > > >

> > > > I'm with you on the high price issue! . . .

> > > >

> > > > I've heard some rumors about other products that

> > > are

> > > > supposed to do the job of Primal Defense . . .

> > > don't

> > > > have any specifics though.

> > > >

> > > > I've found Garden of Life products to be very

> > > good! .

> > > > . . But when you start talking about spending

> > > hundreds

> > > > of dollars every month, it gets out of reason!

> > > > Especially when you're talking about maintenance,

> > > > rather than occasional use products!

> > > >

> > > > Maybe they could come up with a Garden of Life

> > > club or

> > > > something that would allow good customers a break!

> > > >

> > > > This group has probably generated a lot of

> > > customers

> > > > for them. . . I wonder if they have anyone reading

> > > > this group? . . . If so - at least they know how

> > > we

> > > > feel!

> > > >

> > > > Hugs,

> > > >

> > > > Rogene

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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I know the feeling. For me it is miniature musketeer bars! I have

been doing so great until halloween. I have eaten probably about

ten of them in the last 2 days!! Oh, well, now we only have

snickers left and I don't like them. Now all I have to worry about

is Christmas candy!

Hugs, kathy

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>> I just placed my order for a new bottle of Primal

Defense

> > and I also

> > > >>>>> picked up the Perfect Food. Has anyone else tried that

yet?

> > What did

> > > >>>>> you think of it? I'm also wondering if the juice

supplement

> > is any

> > > >>>>> good.

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of

advice

> > given by

> > > >>> licensed

> > > >>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed

> > health care

> > > >>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

politicians

> > mislead you.

> > > >>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions

about

> > how to live a

> > > >>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

> > ing, two-time

> > > >>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

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