Re: Re: cookbook committee???

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>Now, with your Group, the same issue arises. Who has the right to

>ownership of the messages posted to your group. If a " cookbook " is

>assembled at your web group, are only the recipes posted to your

>group to be considered in the " cookbook " or will the recipes

>archived in CRSociety be included, and....is that permissable?

It seems to me that anyone who agrees to submit a recipe for the cookbook

should acknowledge that they are giving the right to publish this recipe as

long as it is not for profit. The author of the recipe should retain the

right for any for-profit venture.

>All that aside, we need someone with computer savvy. Recipes should

>be organized by type: salads, desserts, snacks, entree, beverages,

>etc. The table of contents should have links to the recipes so you

>don't have to scroll through 150 pages to get to my oatmeal recipe.

I have some computer savvy and can help out here. It seems to me that there

are varying levels of complexity we could embark upon as far as technical

requirements:

Storing the recipes in HTML pages is the easiest method of doing this, but

also this least flexible. This would allow basic indexing and search

mechanisms (i.e. if you wanted a recipe with " oatmeal " in it, you could

search all the HTML recipe pages for the word oatmeal). This option would

require either someone to manually transfer any newly submitted recipe to a

standardized HTML format, or there could be a web form with server-side

script which could create an HTML file from submitted information. An index

would have to be created in HTML, and any updates to the index would have to

be done by hand. A simple search engine could be added.

A more flexible (but more work-intensive) option would be to store the

recipes in a database. This would allow indexing on several levels (you

could sort recipes by author, for example, or pull up all recipes identified

as vegetarian or non-dairy). In addition, if recipes contained nutrition

information you could search for all recipes under 100 calories per serving,

or giving more than 50% of calcium per serving, that sort of thing. This

option would require a database (Access would probably do, or the free Linux

db, mySQL) and server-side scripting that could pull from the database and

dynamically generate web pages. A web form could be implemented that would

insert the recipes directly into the database.

I believe someone at some point mentioned storing the recipes in XML, but it

seems to me that for this project XML has neither the flexibility and speed

of a database nor the ease of HTML.

Both options require some web server space (but not that much) and the

second option would require the space to be hosted on a web server that

supports ASP or JSP or the like. The first option seems to me to require

less effort up front, but more effort for maintenance, while the second is

more work initially, but should require less long-term maintenance.

Just some thoughts.

What does everyone else think?

- Robin M

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>It seems that CRS Meta is in the process of organizing a cookbook on

>the home page for CRSociety based on the recipes that are already

>archived and allowance for adding new recipes directly to the data

>base which will include a search engine.

So, what's the added value of having a support group recipe archive as well?

What will our cookbook offer that the other won't?

- Robin

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on 7/22/2002 12:36 PM, Robin M at r061n@... wrote:

> So, what's the added value of having a support group recipe archive as well?

> What will our cookbook offer that the other won't?

>

> - Robin

Robin: I think it's important to have an independent group. We have our

recipes and they have theirs. Today for example, in my society digest, one

immature individual (I was going to post a more descriptive term for him ,

but decided to rise above it) over there tells one of the more valuable

members of the support group to FO (pardon my french everyone).