Re: Shots for my second child?

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Seriously consider asking for titers reading " What Your Doctor May NOT Tell You

About Childhood Vaccines " by Cave, MD., and getting a DDI hair test

(and applying counting rules) for your daughter before deciding whether to get

ANY more vaccines. Most people retain immunity with a single vaccine anddon't

need the boosters. Titers is a blood test to check for that immunity.

" Evidence of Harm " by Kirby is another important book to read.

S S

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My son is 2.5 and has been diagnosed with autism, in looking back his <BR>

behavior seemed to go backwards when his 12 and 18 month shots were <BR>

given- speech regression, personality and social changes, etc.<BR>

<BR>

Now that my daughter is turning one year old, i am concerned about <BR>

getting her next round of shots. You really can't refuse them since <BR>

they will need them to get into any type of day care or pre-school <BR>

anyway. <BR>

<BR>

But are there specific shots to ask for, or shy away from?<BR>

<BR>

I just worry that she might be pre-disposed to retain mercury as well <BR>

and i want to take all necessary precations to make sure that she does <BR>

not develop the same conditions my son has.<BR>

<BR>

thanks,<BR>

<BR>

john<BR>

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You mean you have to give your daughter vaccines in

your state? Is there any way out of this? Well if not

and it's a must, I would strongly advise you go see a

good (classic) homoeopathic

Dr. before any shots given. HTH

--- Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@...>

wrote:

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Seriously consider asking for titers reading " What

Your Doctor May NOT Tell You About Childhood Vaccines "

by Cave, MD., and getting a DDI hair test

(and applying counting rules) for your daughter before

deciding whether to get ANY more vaccines. Most

people retain immunity with a single vaccine anddon't

need the boosters. Titers is a blood test to check

for that immunity. " Evidence of Harm " by Kirby

is another important book to read.

S S

<tt>

My son is 2.5 and has been diagnosed with autism, in

looking back his <BR>

behavior seemed to go backwards when his 12 and 18

month shots were <BR>

given- speech regression, personality and social

changes, etc.<BR>

<BR>

Now that my daughter is turning one year old, i am

concerned about <BR>

getting her next round of shots. You really can't

refuse them since <BR>

they will need them to get into any type of day care

or pre-school <BR>

anyway. <BR>

<BR>

But are there specific shots to ask for, or shy away

from?<BR>

<BR>

I just worry that she might be pre-disposed to retain

mercury as well <BR>

and i want to take all necessary precations to make

sure that she does <BR>

not develop the same conditions my son has.<BR>

<BR>

thanks,<BR>

<BR>

john<BR>

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You certainly can refuse them. In most states it is not very

difficult to get a religious exemption, some have a philosophical

exemption which is even easier. This is for public school. My

daughter's preschool is church run and they also accept religious

exemptions and I imagine you could fine one that did so pretty

easily.

I would certainly delay and separate the MMR and not give any more

DPaT than is necessary (in other words don't do anymore now and maybe

check titers for kindergarten). I wouldn't do chicken pox until they

are older and only if they never had it naturally. Read

Cave's book before you make a decision. There is no hurry. At my

daughter's 18 month appt I wrote a note explaining we would be getting

no shots that day, citing the studies and our family history.

Don't be pressured or rushed into it. You have plenty of time to get

them but once you do it you can never take them back.

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You can refuse them. I refused them for my daughter starting at

this age, and it is a decision I have never regretted. Why? She's

healthy, my boys are not. I can not find any other connection to

her stellar health other than the fact that she was not vaccinated.

She literally is never sick! She has been to the doctor only three

times since the age of 1. The first was around 13 months for a bad

gastro virus, the second was for her phsycical for pre-school and

the third was her physical for Kindergarten. She is turning 8 in

two weeks, and she is so healthy. Simply a coincidence? I think

not. As far as the school goes, I give them a religous exemption,

and they do not bulk at it. As far as my boys go, they are always

getting colds and stuff. She lives with them and gets nothing. She

gets 1 cold per year.

a J

>

> My son is 2.5 and has been diagnosed with autism, in looking back

his

> behavior seemed to go backwards when his 12 and 18 month shots

were

> given- speech regression, personality and social changes, etc.

>

> Now that my daughter is turning one year old, i am concerned about

> getting her next round of shots. You really can't refuse them

since

> they will need them to get into any type of day care or pre-school

> anyway.

>

> But are there specific shots to ask for, or shy away from?

>

> I just worry that she might be pre-disposed to retain mercury as

well

> and i want to take all necessary precations to make sure that she

does

> not develop the same conditions my son has.

>

> thanks,

>

> john

>

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If you even suspect that the shots played a role in your child becoming autistic

I would not even consider giving anymore to any of your children. There are

kids who regress even further with more shots and other siblings are going to be

at higher risk for problems. There has to be an alternative even if it means

homeschooling. I would move to another state before giving my children vaccines

again. Here in Florida it is easy to get a religious waver. All I had to do

was go to the health department and ask for one. They aren't allowed to

question me at all, they have to give it when asked. Some will try and give you

a hard time because they want to talk as many people out of it as possible.

Just research it and go in with your information and stick to your guns. Your

children need protection. What state do you live in? I found good information

by typing in my state and vaccine wavers into a search engine.

A good homeopath would be wonderful. We see one as well. They can help undo

the damage done and help the body detox what it has. Getting treatment for your

son is also very important. With him being so young he would have an excellent

chance at recovery!!!! See www.generationrescue.org for lots of information.

Being on this group will prove invaluable as well. These people are family to

me and I wouldn't know what I would do without them

I vaccinated my first son and he is autistic. I didn't vaccinate my second

son who is 3 1/2 now but he was a Rhogam baby which means he got a high mercury

dose when I was pregnant with him and just after he was born (breastfed). He is

showing some signs of ADD and OCD though very mild. It terrifies me to think of

what would have happened had I vaccinated him. I have no doubt if he is having

trouble with what he got he would be autistic as well. My daughter is also

unvaccinated and not a Rhogam baby. I cannot begin to tell you how different

she is from her brothers. She is amazing! So incredibly full of life, so smart

and funny. Both of my unvaccinated kids are also extremely healthy, rarely are

they sick. They are able to fight things off much easier. My vaccinated son

was always sick with something.

Please consider your options and think not of what others say about school.

It is rare not to find a way around vaccines. Do what you think is best for

your children.

Schembri <marquisschembri@...> wrote:

You mean you have to give your daughter vaccines in

your state? Is there any way out of this? Well if not

and it's a must, I would strongly advise you go see a

good (classic) homoeopathic

Dr. before any shots given. HTH

--- Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@...>

wrote:

---------------------------------

Seriously consider asking for titers reading " What

Your Doctor May NOT Tell You About Childhood Vaccines "

by Cave, MD., and getting a DDI hair test

(and applying counting rules) for your daughter before

deciding whether to get ANY more vaccines. Most

people retain immunity with a single vaccine anddon't

need the boosters. Titers is a blood test to check

for that immunity. " Evidence of Harm " by Kirby

is another important book to read.

S S

<tt>

My son is 2.5 and has been diagnosed with autism, in

looking back his <BR>

behavior seemed to go backwards when his 12 and 18

month shots were <BR>

given- speech regression, personality and social

changes, etc.<BR>

<BR>

Now that my daughter is turning one year old, i am

concerned about <BR>

getting her next round of shots. You really can't

refuse them since <BR>

they will need them to get into any type of day care

or pre-school <BR>

anyway. <BR>

<BR>

But are there specific shots to ask for, or shy away

from?<BR>

<BR>

I just worry that she might be pre-disposed to retain

mercury as well <BR>

and i want to take all necessary precations to make

sure that she does <BR>

not develop the same conditions my son has.<BR>

<BR>

thanks,<BR>

<BR>

john<BR>

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Yes, you CAN Refuse them. Find out if your state has a religious or medical

exemption.

Barb

[ ] Shots for my second child?

> My son is 2.5 and has been diagnosed with autism, in looking back his

> behavior seemed to go backwards when his 12 and 18 month shots were

> given- speech regression, personality and social changes, etc.

>

> Now that my daughter is turning one year old, i am concerned about

> getting her next round of shots. You really can't refuse them since

> they will need them to get into any type of day care or pre-school

> anyway.

>

> But are there specific shots to ask for, or shy away from?

>

> I just worry that she might be pre-disposed to retain mercury as well

> and i want to take all necessary precations to make sure that she does

> not develop the same conditions my son has.

>

> thanks,

>

> john

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

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I refused for my second too, he has had NO shots. and he has been sick three

times in 17 months of age. Twice were VERY mild colds --he fought them off

while the rest of us were down for two weeks. Only one cold was what I would

call a full blown cold.

The rest of us in the house have been sick so many times I cannot count.

He is (almost) 17 months old --says so many words I can't count anymore. goes

thru a stack of flash cards marked for age 3+ and knows them.... he is advanced

and I will not trade that to be bullied into vaxing him.

I wrote religious exemtions for both my kids (gavin has all but his 5yr

boosters) --they are good in all states except MS and WV --and I do NOT belong

to any organized religion --the supreme court has said so themselves.

If no one else has emailed you link toreligious ex. info, email me at

jwebs94@...

jenny

pjand3kids <pjand3kids@...> wrote:

You can refuse them.

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I have five children. The first was vaccinated. The other four were not.

Vaccinations are just recommended, not required. They will hem and haw and

threaten and act like it is required with their sly wording, but when you

actually call them on it....

they will back down and back pedal and admit that it is only a recommendation.

We are going to be foster parents and we don't vaccinate. It is not an issue.

We don't even vaccinate our pets.

We homeschool, but we have sent our children to school on different occasions

without vaccinating and all we needed was a waiver. Waivers are available in

all states, I believe.

We put our children in Daycare with the Vax waiver as well.

To tell you the truth, when we get foster children, I will give it my best

effort not to vaccinate them either and provide waivers for them. I will find a

way not to...where there is a will there is a way....and I will scrounge until I

find every loophole possible....or educate the birth parents on the dangers so

they won't want to....whatever it takes.

[Guest guest]

> Now that my daughter is turning one year old, i am concerned about

> getting her next round of shots. You really can't refuse them since

> they will need them to get into any type of day care or pre-school

> anyway.

Find your state here and refuse them

http://home.san.rr.com/via/STATES/allstates.htm

> But are there specific shots to ask for, or shy away from?

If you really want to do the shots, here is the DAN recommendation

http://tacanow.com/danprotocal.htm

> I just worry that she might be pre-disposed to retain mercury as well

> and i want to take all necessary precations to make sure that she does

> not develop the same conditions my son has.

Then I would suggest you refuse the shots.

Dana