Re: BIG ALA QUESTIONS....

March 18, 2006

600 mg in one dose is WAY too much ALA even for a huge adult and one needs to

dose frequently to avoid redistribution. Bet this nutritionist has NO idea

that people with mercury amalgams dental fillings should avoid it completely.

1/8-1/2 mg per lb of kid is an appropriate dose and it needs to be given every 3

hours during the day and every 4 hours at night for 3 days in a row " on " and as

many off. It is safe for kids if given on Andy's protocol IF the kid has NO

mercury amalgam dental fillings and is not high in copper. Double or triple

check anything this nutritionist tells you. Sounds like he has just enough info

to be dangerous in some cases. ALA chelates mercury from the body and brain and

arsenic.

Sounds like the nutritionist is talking about the SCD (specific carbohydrates

diet) others correct me if I'm wrong. I think the idea behind that is to starve

out the yeast since sugar and carbs feed yeast.

The DAN! probably didn't recommend it because he or she doesn't know about it,

doesn't know about safe dosing, or knows he or she won't make a profit on it.

Perhaps he or she knows that a lot of people chelate without a doc on ALA and

wants you to continue office visits.

S S

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My DAN doc has never mentioned this to me but of course I knew about

it through this group. I guess I just assumed it was another type of

chelator. I have been using DMPS in transdermal form for 3 months.

I was shocked today as I had an appointment with a Board Certified

nutritionist who owns the local health food store and he mentioned

me using Alpha Lipoic Acid...I was like...you mean ALA? He said to

give my son one 600mg Vcap before breakfast...does this sound safe?

Is it ok to use with dmps? Should I work up to this amount? He said

it helps the body produce it's own glutathione and is good for liver

support...I am thinking why wouldnt my DAN doc reccommend this to me

to try as my first chelator? Is it safe for our children? I'd love

any advice/input anyone has? Have children recovered using this?

I was also sad to hear his advice on diet...eliminate all sugars,

including fruit, no fructose, maltrose, rice, potatoes, bread,

wheat, rye, barley, oats, dairy, fried foods, no juice...his diet

made my DAN diet look like a walk in the park!

He did reccommend the diet for a month before I start the grapefruit

seed extract and aloe vera gel as an antiflamitory, this I have

heard on this group. Then a probiotic...he is just starting to help

me with my son...I have not had much luck with the nystatin, ampho

B, or the sporanox for elimination of yeast. I think it's definitely

the diet making the problem linger...wish me luck!

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March 18, 2006

>

> My DAN doc has never mentioned this to me but of course I knew

about

> it through this group. I guess I just assumed it was another type

of

> chelator. I have been using DMPS in transdermal form for 3 months.

>

> I was shocked today as I had an appointment with a Board Certified

> nutritionist who owns the local health food store and he mentioned

> me using Alpha Lipoic Acid...I was like...you mean ALA? He said to

> give my son one 600mg Vcap before breakfast...does this sound safe?

No.

Your nutritionist probably does not know that ALA is a chelator.

People who are NOT mercury toxic could take high doses of ALA I

guess. It is true that it is a powerful antioxidant. Unfortunately

people who are toxic have to follow a very strict protocol since ALA

will also chelate metals.

March 19, 2006

DO NOT give 600mg of ALA to anyone!!! That is such an incredibly high dose!!!

My son weighs about 40 pounds and I have never given him more than 20mg and

that is because he tolerates it really well.

Correct dosing would be to start with 1/8-1/4 mg per pound of body weight

every 3 hours (can go every 4 hours at night) around the clock for 3 days and

then resting for a couple days.

ALA does support liver function but at high doses that are not close together

you are going to pull a lot of metal and simple redistribute it throughout the

body causing many health and behavioral problems. ALA is a wonderful chelator,

it is just important to use it correctly. It is the only chelator that will

cross into the brain and get the metals out of there. Yes, kids have recovered

using this. We use it in the above protocol with amazing results.

The diet sounds too harsh. I definitely recommend cutting out processed and

unnatural foods and ingredients. Sugar in excess is bad all around. Unless you

are having a yeast issue fruits are not bad. Too much juice is unnecessary but

better than soda...water is best Food colorings, preservatives, high

fructose corn syrup and trans fats shouldn't be in anyone's diet. White rice

and flours should be minimal and brown rice and wheat breat instead. All that

said, sometimes a good cheeseburger is just fine! The idea is to clean up the

diet as much as possible. Nobody is perfect and that is just fine. If you can

eliminate a large percentage you are doing great. That leaves the body better

able to handle the bad stuff when we just can't resist.

Okay, just saw the yeast mentioned...still reeling over the suggested 600mg

ALA!

Grapefruit seed extract is great for yeast. So is Candex and No Phenol

enzymes. Both of those are more gentle but effective. I think Biotin is also

good for yeast???

I would limit sugars as best as possible, especially the processed kinds,

juice as well really. I think some say pear juice is okay. Depends on the

kiddo. Some of us rub oil of oregano on the bottoms of our kids feet.

Chelation is good at causing yeast.

I have to get to work but definitely read the FAQ section of this group. You

are likely going to get a lot of response!

Wishing you well,

son2recover <michelle.hovan@...> wrote: