Re: Hungry

[Guest guest]

Hi Lina: If you don't want to lose any more weight, then you shouldn't

reduce calories.

We do have many tricks to reduce hunger for our members. Read the files

especially: " Aids and Tips " . Our files are a compilation of our best

recommendations.

To access the files, just go to our home page:

/

At the left, click on " files " . Then click on the file you want to read.

Thats all there is to it. The files are jam packed with useful information.

Have you read Walford's " Beyond the 120 Year Diet " ? The reason I ask is

your listing of your major foods: olive oil, aged cheeses, wine, chocolate.

These are not the kinds of foods typical of a CRONIE. Olive oil and wine

are eaten in moderation only; cheese is definitely not a CRONIE food and

full fat, sugared chocolate is not. So, please read the files and the book.

It's really a requirement for a CRONIE.

on 9/20/2002 4:33 AM, linaspinelli at LinaSpin wrote:

> << Also: we would need more info from you to help you. How

> How many calories are

>> you on? How much do you weigh? How tall are you? And

> whatever else you

>> could tell us about yourself that would help. Just telling us

> you're hungry

>> isn't enough info to assess why you're so hungry. >>

>

> OK. I'm on about 1800-2000 calories. I weigh 110 and I am 5'5 " .

> I eat a very

> Mediterranean diet: olive oil, tomato, salad, fish, aged cheeses,

> some wine,

> a little chocolate. My weight has been steady and I haven't lost

> weight (I

> don't really want to, anyway.) I do, however, want to reduce my

> caloric

> intake and control my appetite a bit, which is great. Any help

> would be

> appreciated.

>

> Thanks for the welcome.

>

> Lina

[Guest guest]

CRONIE or not, I want to go out to dinner with Lina! That menu sounds a lot better than the Kale and egg whites I am about to enjoy...especially the Chocolate (Ghirardelli is the best!) ...I know, I know....stay focused....stay strong...honor the great doctor W.... :-)

----- Original Message -----

From: Francesca Skelton

Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 5:55 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] HUNGRY

Hi Lina: If you don't want to lose any more weight, then you shouldn'treduce calories. We do have many tricks to reduce hunger for our members. Read the filesespecially: "Aids and Tips". Our files are a compilation of our bestrecommendations. To access the files, just go to our home page: /At the left, click on "files". Then click on the file you want to read.Thats all there is to it. The files are jam packed with useful information.Have you read Walford's " Beyond the 120 Year Diet"? The reason I ask isyour listing of your major foods: olive oil, aged cheeses, wine, chocolate.These are not the kinds of foods typical of a CRONIE. Olive oil and wineare eaten in moderation only; cheese is definitely not a CRONIE food andfull fat, sugared chocolate is not. So, please read the files and the book.It's really a requirement for a CRONIE.on 9/20/2002 4:33 AM, linaspinelli at LinaSpin wrote:> << Also: we would need more info from you to help you. How> How many calories are>> you on? How much do you weigh? How tall are you? And> whatever else you>> could tell us about yourself that would help. Just telling us> you're hungry>> isn't enough info to assess why you're so hungry. >>> > OK. I'm on about 1800-2000 calories. I weigh 110 and I am 5'5".> I eat a very> Mediterranean diet: olive oil, tomato, salad, fish, aged cheeses,> some wine,> a little chocolate. My weight has been steady and I haven't lost> weight (I> don't really want to, anyway.) I do, however, want to reduce my> caloric> intake and control my appetite a bit, which is great. Any help> would be> appreciated. > > Thanks for the welcome.> > Lina

[Guest guest]

Francesca says:

“The reason I ask is your listing of your

major foods: olive oil, aged cheeses, wine, chocolate. These are not the

kinds of foods typical of a CRONIE.”

Of course, I agree with you Francesca that CRONies

typically do not eat a lot of these foods – they would not be major

dietary components. But I wouldn’t want to leave the impression that they

are forbidden or evil. Many CRONies eat mostly olive oil as their fat. Many eat

some chocolate and indulge in a little wine. Until I found out that milk was my

worst food allergy offender, I ate an ounce of aged cheese every day –

usually sharp cheddar, feta or parmesan – those with the most flavor. I

am one of those CRONies that eats pretty high fat – 35-40% of calories

and I have little or no problem with hunger on 1100 calories/day or less for 2+

years. We are all different though – I have never needed a lot of

calories and gain weight easily. I find that bulk does not help me feel

satisfied. I must have lots of flavor and a little “richness”. I’d

rather have a small peach or a handful of berries than a gallon bucket of guar

pudding. (Yes, I know you can flavor the guar, but I still would rather have

the fruit). I have often eaten small quantities of relatively nutritious and rich

foods on CRON – they are good for the soul – nuts, avocados, egg

yolks, liver pate.

Lina – your experience is consistent with my

theory that the naturally thin have the most trouble with hunger on CRON. Lifetime

dieters like me seem to adapt more easily. I am less hungry on CRON than I was

ad lib by far. As an experienced dieter, I have gone through this adaptation dozens

of times. Here is my experience. There is an initial discomfort period when you

cut calories (like the Atkins induction thing) that lasts a couple of weeks. You

are hungry, cranky, and uncomfortable. Then your body “shifts” to a

more efficient state and needs less calories. You feel better – even great.

You have to stick consistently with the lower calories for a couple of

weeks – don’t cheat or it stops the process. You may lose a few

pounds, but then it should level off and your loss should stop. If you

increase your calories back up for a couple of weeks, your body shifts back and

you lose the advantage.