Re: Is Cocoa Safe for Health? Should We Buy?

[Guest guest]

dear warren

my girlfriend's father was a plantation owner in the Philippines and

absolutely refused to consume any product made from cocoa beans....treated

it like death, including m & m's, simply because it was the crop he most

heavily doused on a regular basis with pesticides, fungicides, herbicides,

and ultimately, homicides. sorry, couldn't resist. smile.

accordingly, after reviewing the fine research and concomitant discussion on

the subject of cocoa which certain members of this group conducted in the

past, i was moved to purchase a small supply myself...but hard pressed to

find a truly organic...i.e., non contaminated...source of beans.

repeatedly ran into the institutional wall of 'ich weiss nicht.'

unless i missed the particulars, i did not find this particular aspect of

the question addressed in your message, and was wondering what your position

was, because at least for me, it colors the whole issue...say, in a mottled

lead and mercury ochre?

additionally, the saco site mentions that their product is processed with

alkali...if i remember correctly, in my peripatetic search of the organic

sources, that is one of the more questionable methods. not being

knowledgeable on the subject, i throw that out more as a question than an

answer.

other than that, i have no particular worries about this food, not being a

cronie, and heartily endorse this humanitarian project you have taken on so

lugubriously to liberate the libido of mankind.

seriously, though, coke has many keen benefits, to wit: my personal program

of daily weight lifting, surf jogging, and sand running has received an

insouciant little kick in the butt by simply adding three teaspoons of

organic cocoa to my pre exercise protein powder drink. my girlfriend, on

the other hand, has returned to the Philippines, seeking a sanitarium.

she's 52 and couldn't take the testo response. i am only 59.

without impeding the inertia of this good hearted program you are so

valiantly spear heading, let me add in closing that i believe there are

multiple suits pending against Hershey's et al, by various health

organizations and consumer protection groups, regarding contamination of all

their chocolate products, including cocoa powder.

if this facet of contamination in the overall question is adequately

addressed, i would be willing to forward you a check immediately, because i

for one, am hooked. would you believe my son is a DEA agent? is that

cocoa...as in cocaine? or just good old chocoholism?

best regards,

robert andrew

----- Original Message -----

From: " Warren " <warren.taylor@...>

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Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 12:53 AM

Subject: [ ] Is Cocoa Safe for Health? Should We Buy?

> ALL:

>

> I am considering making a very large bulk purchase

> of approx $3,000 for cocoa powder in canisters

> from the following website:

>

>

> http://www.sacofoods.com/premiumcocoa.html

>

> You all see the full product specs, and you see the

> manufacturer of the cocoa powder that I am planning

> to buy in bulk.

>

> Question 1: Is there a better cocoa than this?

>

> My Answer 1: No -- I have looked far and wide.

> There is none better, with lower calories

> and lower fats. Furthermore, it is

> a blend of natural and Dutched cocoa,

> very delicious, and almost Heavenly.

>

> Your Answer 1: Tell me if you think there is a better.

>

> ---------------------------------------------------

>

> Question 2: Are cocoa powder drinks safe to drink

> for health and nutrition?

>

> My Answer 2: First, its calories are near zero.

> That is important. Second, the powder

> is rich in cocoa bio-flavenoids, known to

> be heart healthy and powerful anti-oxidants.

> Third, it has almost no fat -- so lipid

> peroxidation is not a problem.

>

> Your Answer 2: Tell me if you think there is a reason

> that this product may be poor for health.

>

> ---------------------------------------------------------

>

> Question 3: What is the shelf life of this product?

> Will it store, since I am getting it in bulk?

>

> My Answer 3: I have seen and tested the product, which comes

> in sealed canisters. The manufacturer claims

> that the product stores forever, and that it

> does not oxidize because it is ultra-low fat,

> and retains its flavor indefinitely.

>

> Your Answer 3: Tell me if you think there may be a reason

> to believe differently.

>

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>

> Question 4: I am thinking on giving away a free canister of

> this product to everyone who buys Sucralose

> as a free gift. Is this reasonable?

>

> My Answer 4: I have no choice. I must promote the

> product to help me draw down my supply.

> I can not afford to be caught with a ton.

> The cost of one can is small. The cost

> to carry a huge supply is gigantic.

>

> Your Answer 4: Tell me if you think differently, or have

> a better plan. And it is an ideal product,

> so far as I can tell. I see nothing that

> comes close.

>

> ---------------------------------------------------------

>

> My Question 5: The cost will probably be about $4.00 per

> can, and mailing it will be for free to

> anywhere in the US. Minimum purchase will

> probably be 24 canisters ($96.00, which I

> will probably just round up to an even $100.00).

> Is this pricing structure is fair?

>

> My Answer 5: The cost is very important to be able to

> handle a bulk supply and not get caught.

> I know of no better product anywhere, that

> tastes better, costs less, and comes to

> your door. So, I think it is fair.

>

> Your Answer 5: Tell me if you think differently, or can

> see a difficulty, especially for people

> who are familiar with cocoa.

>

> ---------------------------------------------------------

>

> Side note: This cocoa powder I have tried for a week.

> To me, it is remarkable (my evaluation -- others

> might think different). It is beyond belief

> in its flavor, taste, low calories, low fat, and

> energy " pick-me-up " benefits. Plus it has some

> subtle unmentioned benefits too, that some people

> have already hinted and remarked about, as evidenced

> subtly (or not so, maybe) in the movie " Chocolat " ,

> which conveys benefits of the beverage. Basically,

> it makes people happy -- almost euphoric, esp when

> there lives are painful or deprived.

>

> ---------------------------------------------------------

>

> Any feedback I get will be helpful. If such an ideal product

> were available somewhere else, or for less cost, I sure would

> want to know about it first, before committing myself to a

> large purchase -- only to get stuck with it later.

>

> Also, if I plan to consume it myself, assurance that it is

> safe and good for health is paramount. The manufacturer

> specifications are given above. Your feedback is solicited.

> Have I forgotten anything in these considerations above?

>

> -- Warren

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello ,

What a delightful reply. This CR Support List is

really great. I'm happy to be here with all you folks.

Everyone is quite pleasant and agreeable, if you are

any indication at all. I loved your response, and apologize

for extracting only the small portion of your reply

that I appended below.

The temptations of a low-calorie tasty mixed cocoa

blend look pretty nice. The calories are rock-bottom.

How can you beat 10 cal/TBL? That is enough to make a

full pint of a delicious cocoa drink. Sweeten with

Sucralose, and no calories added.

The benefits to the heart with the cocoa bio-flavenoids,

are well known. Even Science News Magazine had a 3-page

spread on heart benefits from cocoa just a few months

back. Benefits extend beyond the heart, but Science News

omitted all of them -- never mentioning for example, the

stimulation of the mind or the stimulation of body energy

release. Just the statistical health improvement, which was

the focus of the journal study article.

The jump in libido boost is an interesting side effect.

And everyone understands the delicious flavor, and the

overall gusto of lifestyle improvement. It makes a tasty

product like this hard to turn down, especially in the

latter years of life.

The latter years (after 50, say) are the most precious years.

Each year becomes more valuable, with the passage of time.

-- Warren

> On Sunday, July 28, 2002 11:15 PM,

> [sMTP:mommyb@...] wrote:

> Dear Warren ...

>

> Seriously, though, coke [cocoa]has many

> keen benefits, to wit: my personal program

> of daily weight lifting, surf jogging, and

> sand running has received an insouciant little

> kick in the butt by simply adding three teaspoons

> of organic cocoa to my pre-exercise protein

> powder drink. My girlfriend, on the other hand,

> has returned to the Philippines, seeking a sanitarium.

> She's 52 and couldn't take the testo response.

> I am only 59...