Re: FW: Dental bone infection (immune system)

[Guest guest]

Lynn: My husband had almost the exact problem a few years ago. We also did

not like the advice of the dentist which was extreme (I believe in my

husband's case he wanted to do a root canal - UgHHHHH). Soooooo we

consulted our DOCTOR (after all this is an infection, something that doctors

are better at taking care of than dentists). The doctor said: RUBBISH to

the dentist's advice, and gave my husband a course of antibiotics. He felt

better almost immediately and to this day has been fine. Let me know if

this helps.

on 8/28/2002 1:20 PM, Francesca Skelton at fskelton@... wrote:

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> From: " Lynn " <dayrain@...>

> Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:16:45 -0700

> " Francesca Skelton [CR] " <fskelton@...>

> Subject: Dental bone infection (immune system)

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> Hello there List,

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> I'm having problems with my sign-up, so Francesca is posting this for

> me.

> If you decide to reply off-list, please send your message to me at

> dayrain@....

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> QUICK SUMMARY: Seeking interpretation, ideas, and dentist referral--re

> infection of bone under tooth.

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> My dentist tells me there is an *infection* in the *bone* between the roots

> of

> one of my molars. He says that this infection is continually dumping toxins

> into my bloodstream; that nothing, not even a course of antibiotics, would

> kill

> the infection, as bone in that location is always " poorly vascularized " ;

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> that there is no option except for removing the tooth.

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> *Removing* the *tooth*!

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> How did this happen? What can I do to prevent such an infection from taking

> hold under another tooth?

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> Maybe this is the wages of having lived more than half a century without

> practicing ON. (I tried, for good long periods of time, but didn't have all

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> information.)

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> Or maybe it happened because I cut my vitamin C intake a couple of months

> ago

> after it seemed clear I had been taking quite a bit more than is usual for

> CRONies. Maybe I even cut it down too quickly, and got a rebound effect.

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> In any case, I need a second opinion, and am wondering if anyone knows of an

> excellent dentist in southern California, Las Vegas, or Phoenix who is also

> knowledgeable about nutrition.

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> Any ideas or information regarding this sort of problem will be appreciated

> too.

>

> Lynn

> dayrain@...

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[Guest guest]

Hi Lynn: It was several years ago, so I doubt my husband'll remember (but

I'll ask him and e-mail you off list if he remembers). The doctor we were

using at the time wasn't even a particularly good one; in fact we have since

switched doctors. So any halfway decent doctor should be able to help you.

I'm not sure why think that this won't do the trick or why you're so set

against antibiotics. Antibiotics, when used for what they were intended,

are wonders. And this sounds like one of those times. The more invasive

procedures, such as root canal or tooth extraction are what I would be

trying to avoid, if I were you, and not the antibiotics.

on 9/4/2002 5:46 AM, Lynn at dayrain@... wrote:

> Francesca said her husband had " almost the same problem, " though only a root

> canal was recommended in his case. Since it was an infection, they found it

> reasonable to consult a *doctor* -- and indeed, a course of antibiotics cured

> his problem. I'm going to try this avenue first, hoping against hope, and

> I've

> made an appointment. There's a very good chance antibiotics won't fix my

> problem, and they themselves are a bad thing to do to your body, but Dean

> Pomerleau's experience is that antibiotics should be taken *until* any

> necessary

> extraction is done. Francesca, are you able to recall or find out *which*

> antibiotic it was that was effective for your husband? I'd prefer to have a

> specific most-likely-to-help one in mind instead of going in for my

> appointment

> blind.

[Guest guest]

FWIW -

I believe there are other parts of the body where 'poor

vascularization' plays a part in the difficulty of completely

eradicating an infection with antibiotics. The prime example of this

which most people are affected by is kids ear infections. Persistent

sinus infections are a close second.

Our daughter was adopted overseas, and came home with an ear

infection (draining) that was treated with the usual course of

antibiotics. It appeared to clear up, but to recurred (I believe it

was never completely gone) several times. Eventually, 30 days of low

dose amoxycillin did the trick.

I also know someone else who adopted a boy overseas, and his

persistent ear infections were found to also involve a jaw bone

infection, which also eventually required some surgery to resolve.

He's fine now.

I would be concerned as to how this infection occured, and how it

made it's way to the jaw bone. Bad tooth? Bad ear? Bad sinus? And

I'd want to be sure WHICH tooth was the conduit for the infection.

If the tooth they want to remove otherwise appears sound, I'd be

lookin' around a little more.

Your dentist/oral surgeon should be able to prescribe antibiotics

(mine can and does) (which I'm wholeheartedly in favor of when

they're needed, and this is one time when they are!) and/or steroids

(which may be needed to reduce inflamation before the surgery can

proceed) which are often used prior to root canals. No you don't

want to be on steriods for an extended period of time, but they do

have their (short term) uses. I'd be wondering why the dentist

involved is not writing the prescription - I don't think you should

neet to be seeing a GP for this. If the dentist can't treat the

infection in this way, I don't think I'd want him doing an extraction

either.

That high levels of vitamin C have helped surprises me not - I use it

for ear infections.

Iris