FW: Dental bone infection (immune system)

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From: " Lynn " <dayrain@...>

Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:16:45 -0700

" Francesca Skelton [CR] " <fskelton@...>

Subject: Dental bone infection (immune system)

Hello there List,

I'm having problems with my sign-up, so Francesca is posting this for

me.

If you decide to reply off-list, please send your message to me at

dayrain@....

QUICK SUMMARY: Seeking interpretation, ideas, and dentist referral--re

infection of bone under tooth.

My dentist tells me there is an *infection* in the *bone* between the roots

of

one of my molars. He says that this infection is continually dumping toxins

into my bloodstream; that nothing, not even a course of antibiotics, would

kill

the infection, as bone in that location is always " poorly vascularized " ;

and

that there is no option except for removing the tooth.

*Removing* the *tooth*!

How did this happen? What can I do to prevent such an infection from taking

hold under another tooth?

Maybe this is the wages of having lived more than half a century without

practicing ON. (I tried, for good long periods of time, but didn't have all

the

information.)

Or maybe it happened because I cut my vitamin C intake a couple of months

ago

after it seemed clear I had been taking quite a bit more than is usual for

CRONies. Maybe I even cut it down too quickly, and got a rebound effect.

In any case, I need a second opinion, and am wondering if anyone knows of an

excellent dentist in southern California, Las Vegas, or Phoenix who is also

knowledgeable about nutrition.

Any ideas or information regarding this sort of problem will be appreciated

too.

Lynn

dayrain@...

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Dear List,

Thank you to everyone who responded with ideas for what on earth do you do if

you have an infection in the bone under a tooth. And thanks to everyone who

didn't lodge any complaints of this being somewhat far afield from the subject

of CRON!

Anita W suggested putting Melaleuca oil (tea tree oil) directly on the gum. I

had done that for a while, and had given up when it didn't fix the problem. But

Anita's mentioning it encouraged me to go back to applying Melaleuca oil until I

get stronger measures under way. I've noticed that Melaleuca oil plus going

back to my normal (high) doses of vitamin C have taken away almost all the pain,

even though they haven't resolved the matter.

Francesca said her husband had " almost the same problem, " though only a root

canal was recommended in his case. Since it was an infection, they found it

reasonable to consult a *doctor* -- and indeed, a course of antibiotics cured

his problem. I'm going to try this avenue first, hoping against hope, and I've

made an appointment. There's a very good chance antibiotics won't fix my

problem, and they themselves are a bad thing to do to your body, but Dean

Pomerleau's experience is that antibiotics should be taken *until* any necessary

extraction is done. Francesca, are you able to recall or find out *which*

antibiotic it was that was effective for your husband? I'd prefer to have a

specific most-likely-to-help one in mind instead of going in for my appointment

blind.

Dean said his wife had the " same kind of under-tooth infection " (including

frequent cold sores as a symptom, which I've been noticing, too, for the past

three months or so). Dean continued, " Her dentist put her on antibiotics until

the extraction could be performed, but basically said the same thing your

dentist is saying - the tooth had to come out to clear up the infection. Since

she had it out, things have improved considerably.... "

Dean encouraged me to get a second opinion; and Suzanne Cart recommended the

dental department at UCLA.

Bob Cavanaugh said he didn't see why the diseased bone couldn't " be treated

directly if not systemically, " and I'm meaning to ask whether this is a viable

possibility.

Tom Kramer wondered whether a root canal procedure might be indicated, but

Francesca said, " root canal - UgHHHHH, " and Warren suggested that I may

have developed this problem *because* I'd already had root canals done. Warren

recommended what he says is a controversial book -- " Root Canal Coverup " by Dr.

E. Meinig, the founding member of the American Association of

Endodontists who investigated the pioneering research work of Dr. Weston Price.

Warren went on to say, " the severity could vary from individual to individual

considerably. It might never appear until the latter years of life when immune

function is more compromised. Then it might become acute and sudden, with no

explanation. Some concerned individuals have had all their root canal teeth

removed. " He recommended I use Google to get an idea of the gist of the book

before I decide what to do.

Thank you again, everyone. I'm so glad I asked you.

Lynn

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On 2002 Aug 28 Francesca had posted for me:

....My dentist tells me there is an *infection* in the *bone* between the roots

of one of my molars. He says that this infection is continually dumping toxins

into my bloodstream; that nothing, not even a course of antibiotics, would kill

the infection, as

bone in that location is always " poorly vascularized " ; and that there is no

option except for removing the tooth....