Re: /Dana/was: viral protocol - THANK YOU!!

[Guest guest]

Thanks Dana for your thorough answers, what I am seeing with my son indeed

sounds like viruses coming out. He has been back on OLE and his brain is getting

clearer day after day. His words are clearer and he understands so much more!!

I am loving the wonderful gains and he keeps improving every day!!! This is

amazing! Now finally my husband has noticed the changes in him also and I am

able to get him more on board with biomed. Can't ask for more support, can I??

Thanks so much again, to you Dana, and to everybody else who wrote back to me!

danasview <danasview@...> wrote:

> Saturday gave my son about 50 mg OLE three times a day, in

addition to the upped yeast support stuff (probiotics, Candease, GSE,

no-fenol)

>

> EXCELLENT gains, in every way....

Increasing the dose caused improvements for my son also.

>>BUT new stimming began. Better stimming, if you can call it that

way. Instead of making impossible towers all the time (and nobody is

allowed to touch them or take them down, or there's HUGE

issues/screaming) now the lining is HORIZONTAL.

For my son, the initial improvement in this area was opposite. His

lines were always horizontal and stretched throughout the house, and

the improvement was vertical towers instead.

> Anyhow, here's the thing. After two days (last dose of OLE was

Monday evening) I stopped giving him the OLE b/c I have seen signs of

him getting sick again (just a stuffy cold-type of a thing)

For my son, this would have been a cold virus coming out of his

body/brain. I would have kept the OLE to fully elimnate it.

> I have read the file on viruses and enzymes, but I am still

wondering how would OLE work for viruses and what the doses would

be/what kind of a regimen to use. I know that most of us don't really

understand how the whole viral thing works, but I was wondering if

anyone had any further ideas for me on what may be happening to my son.

It sounds to me like the virus/es were starting to come out. I would

start the OLE again.

> An hour after I had given him the yeast supps and the OLE this

morning I could see an apparent change to ever better receptive

language, just amazing eye contact, and spontaneous expressive

language/word approximations. His anxiety so reduced, unbelievable (I

had to take my husband's car this morning and my son usually

freaks/cries/needs some time to adjust when this happens, but today he

climed in with a smile. At school he smiled at the teacher picking him

up from my car....just amazing)

>

> What i am seeing just makes me want to continue with OLE all the

time!

Yep. Keep it for at least several months, if not longer. I gave it

to my son for a year, then mistakenly thought I could stop when his

progressed " leveled out " . The first time I removed it, major

regression, so I kept it. The second time I removed it, no change so

I thought I was done. But then he got a cold which I watched go right

into his brain. So now I have given him OLE [and Virastop] since last

September, with very good results.

> I am only doing OLE right now. Do you think that adding ViraStop

would possibly help my son with battling the viruses better/with

lesser side effects/faster?

For my family, yes. The combination is VERY effective. It does tend

to stir up more yeast tho, so watch for that. But the gains have been

incredible.

> Could these colds be a sign of viruses being re-activated?

For my kids, " coming out " , not necessarily re-activated. While the

viruses were in their bodies/brains, they were still " active " , but not

in usual virus-related ways. They were preventing language

acquisition, causing visual stims, etc. On their way out, they cause

typical cold [or flu] symptoms, usually for a very short duration like

24 hours, then they are gone. When they come out as rashes, it takes

longer.

>> Adding virastop may then possibly eliminate them?

That's how it works over here.

> Do you think it is OK to do a few weeks of viral protocol, then

give it a break (so that my son does not have a cold all the time)?

My son does not have a cold all the time. They come and go in waves.

The colds are usually 1-2 days long, followed by a stretch of time

without a cold, altho maybe a rash.

I would NEVER stop the viral protocol, because that gives the virus

time to go back to where it was, and replicate and increase. Giving a

lot of vitamin C has mostly prevented them from going back into the brain.

> Do you think it was all right to give him a few days off when I

saw him getting sick,

I stopped for two days a few months ago when my son had the stomach

flu and he could not keep anything down. But started again as soon as

he was better. Otherwise, I keep giving the anti-virals, ESPECIALLY

when sick. When I was sick, I actually *increased* my anti-virals,

and I was able to function and even work that day, without major

discomfort. It did cause a LOT of yeast for me tho.

>> or once I start to tackle the viruses, I should give it at least a

week or two without interruptions?

Keep going, don't stop.

> And can you do a viral protocol during chelation? I am planning to

start with Andy's protocol at the end of the month, after our vacation.

Yes, altho be sure you have a good yeast protocol, and keep a stable

dose of anti-virals at the beginning, so you can keep things under

control.

Dana

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[Guest guest]

: Can you tell me what brand of OLE you are using and what

dosing? I will be starting this soon and hope to follow those who

are seeing positive results. Thanks and congrats with your progress.

Kim

> > Saturday gave my son about 50 mg OLE three times a day, in

> addition to the upped yeast support stuff (probiotics, Candease,

GSE,

> no-fenol)

> >

> > EXCELLENT gains, in every way....

>

>

> Increasing the dose caused improvements for my son also.

>

>

> >>BUT new stimming began. Better stimming, if you can call it that

> way. Instead of making impossible towers all the time (and nobody is

> allowed to touch them or take them down, or there's HUGE

> issues/screaming) now the lining is HORIZONTAL.

>

>

> For my son, the initial improvement in this area was opposite. His

> lines were always horizontal and stretched throughout the house, and

> the improvement was vertical towers instead.

>

>

> > Anyhow, here's the thing. After two days (last dose of OLE was

> Monday evening) I stopped giving him the OLE b/c I have seen signs

of

> him getting sick again (just a stuffy cold-type of a thing)

>

>

> For my son, this would have been a cold virus coming out of his

> body/brain. I would have kept the OLE to fully elimnate it.

>

>

> > I have read the file on viruses and enzymes, but I am still

> wondering how would OLE work for viruses and what the doses would

> be/what kind of a regimen to use. I know that most of us don't

really

> understand how the whole viral thing works, but I was wondering if

> anyone had any further ideas for me on what may be happening to my

son.

>

>

> It sounds to me like the virus/es were starting to come out. I

would

> start the OLE again.

>

>

> > An hour after I had given him the yeast supps and the OLE this

> morning I could see an apparent change to ever better receptive

> language, just amazing eye contact, and spontaneous expressive

> language/word approximations. His anxiety so reduced, unbelievable

(I

> had to take my husband's car this morning and my son usually

> freaks/cries/needs some time to adjust when this happens, but today

he

> climed in with a smile. At school he smiled at the teacher picking

him

> up from my car....just amazing)

> >

> > What i am seeing just makes me want to continue with OLE all the

> time!

>

>

> Yep. Keep it for at least several months, if not longer. I gave it

> to my son for a year, then mistakenly thought I could stop when his

> progressed " leveled out " . The first time I removed it, major

> regression, so I kept it. The second time I removed it, no change

so

> I thought I was done. But then he got a cold which I watched go

right

> into his brain. So now I have given him OLE [and Virastop] since

last

> September, with very good results.

>

>

> > I am only doing OLE right now. Do you think that adding ViraStop

> would possibly help my son with battling the viruses better/with

> lesser side effects/faster?

>

>

> For my family, yes. The combination is VERY effective. It does

tend

> to stir up more yeast tho, so watch for that. But the gains have

been

> incredible.

>

>

> > Could these colds be a sign of viruses being re-activated?

>

>

> For my kids, " coming out " , not necessarily re-activated. While the

> viruses were in their bodies/brains, they were still " active " , but

not

> in usual virus-related ways. They were preventing language

> acquisition, causing visual stims, etc. On their way out, they

cause

> typical cold [or flu] symptoms, usually for a very short duration

like

> 24 hours, then they are gone. When they come out as rashes, it

takes

> longer.

>

>

> >> Adding virastop may then possibly eliminate them?

>

>

> That's how it works over here.

>

>

> > Do you think it is OK to do a few weeks of viral protocol, then

> give it a break (so that my son does not have a cold all the time)?

>

>

> My son does not have a cold all the time. They come and go in

waves.

> The colds are usually 1-2 days long, followed by a stretch of time

> without a cold, altho maybe a rash.

>

> I would NEVER stop the viral protocol, because that gives the virus

> time to go back to where it was, and replicate and increase.

Giving a

> lot of vitamin C has mostly prevented them from going back into the

brain.

>

>

> > Do you think it was all right to give him a few days off when I

> saw him getting sick,

>

>

> I stopped for two days a few months ago when my son had the stomach

> flu and he could not keep anything down. But started again as soon

as

> he was better. Otherwise, I keep giving the anti-virals, ESPECIALLY

> when sick. When I was sick, I actually *increased* my anti-virals,

> and I was able to function and even work that day, without major

> discomfort. It did cause a LOT of yeast for me tho.

>

>

> >> or once I start to tackle the viruses, I should give it at least

a

> week or two without interruptions?

>

>

> Keep going, don't stop.

>

>

> > And can you do a viral protocol during chelation? I am planning

to

> start with Andy's protocol at the end of the month, after our

vacation.

>

>

> Yes, altho be sure you have a good yeast protocol, and keep a stable

> dose of anti-virals at the beginning, so you can keep things under

> control.

>

> Dana

>

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

> I am loving the wonderful gains and he keeps improving every

day!!! This is amazing! Now finally my husband has noticed the changes

in him also and I am able to get him more on board with biomed. Can't

ask for more support, can I??

Sounds great, congrats!

Dana