Re: To CRON or not to CRON

[Guest guest]

Joanne,

You mention that your weight is under 110, but what is your BMI? Percentage

of body fat? Are your loved ones scared because you are on the edge of being

underweight/healthy and underweight/unhealthy?

One of the well-respected CR list leaders from long ago, Ben (last name

escapes me), let his weight drop too low and began suffering from dizziness

and fainting. His doctor was concerned about his heart, too.

For low-weight, low-body fat Cronies, it can be a fine line indeed between

healthy and unhealthy CR. Take care of yourself!

Dixie

on 9/25/02 6:04 AM, at

wrote:

> Message: 9

> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 05:26:58 -0000

> From: " somejoanne2002 " <bhsnz@...>

> Subject: To CRON or not to CRON?

>

> I am encountering a lot of pressure lately to give up this " nutty "

> CRON thing.

[Guest guest]

Ben best.

http://www.benbest.com

-----Original Message-----

From: Dixie Good

[mailto:dixiegood@...]

Sent: Wednesday,

September 25, 2002 10:21 AM

CR Support Group

Subject: [ ] Re: To

CRON or not to CRON

Joanne,

You mention that your weight is under 110, but

what is your BMI? Percentage

of body fat? Are your loved ones scared because

you are on the edge of being

underweight/healthy and underweight/unhealthy?

One of the well-respected CR list leaders from

long ago, Ben (last name

escapes me), let his weight drop too low and began

suffering from dizziness

and fainting. His doctor was concerned about his

heart, too.

For low-weight, low-body fat Cronies, it can be a

fine line indeed between

healthy and unhealthy CR. Take care of yourself!

Dixie

on 9/25/02 6:04 AM,

at

wrote:

> Message: 9

> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 05:26:58 -0000

> From: " somejoanne2002 " <bhsnz@...>

> Subject: To CRON or not to CRON?

>

> I am encountering a lot of pressure lately to

give up this " nutty "

> CRON thing.

[Guest guest]

> Joanne,

>

> You mention that your weight is under 110, but what is your BMI?

17.742

>Percentage

> of body fat?

I've only taken it twice. When I weighed a few pounds more it came

out at 17.something and more recently it came out at 23%. Those were

both bioelectrical impedance methods - go figure. Plus or minus 6%

is not very accurate. I might as well just look in the mirror and

hazard a guess ...

If one is going to take calculated risks (CR) one at least wants

reliable calculations. So thanks to this discussion I am going to

see if I can get a more accurate measurement. If either of those

calculations were accurate (and there is a part of me that wants the

high one to be just so I can do more calorie restricting - hehe ) I

could lose some more weight and still be quite safe from any anorexic

like complications.

As for the complications of bleeding to death in aa accident - I'm

not so sure. Maybe those are purely a function of weight.

>Are your loved ones scared because you are on the edge of being

> underweight/healthy and underweight/unhealthy?

Some people *think* I am on that edge. I am not so sure.

It does occur to me that if one is on that edge though even through

ad lib eating (whatever that is) they have no place much to go. They

can only:

1) continue to CR further (or at all if they are ad lib thin) and

lose more weight to a point where they have certain complications

such as amenoria (in premenopausal females) and further complications

of anorexia. I mean are we sure none of the risks of anorexia apply

to us because we do AN or ON or could it be that some of them are

just a function of extremely low body fat *period*? Yes I have to

ask the question as I face questions like that even though I'm not

even that fricken thin!

2) Stop reducing calories or don't reduct at all (if they are ad-lib

thin)

3) reduce caloric expenditure through exercise etc. so they can cut

calories further and not lose weight. This may well be preferable

for those who are gym obsessed but if less advisable if we get

minimal exercise to begin with.

4) cut calories and don't reduce exercise *without* losing much more

weight to the extent that this is possible ......

Oh those ob-ob mice are the lucky ones

[Guest guest]

Joanne: from the recent picture of you at the S Cal meeting, you don't look

at all emaciated or like the " concentration camp crowd " . Why keep

discussing it with people (even those close to you) who aren't aware of the

health benes of CRON? If the subject comes up, you can say: " I'm always

careful to get XXXXX calories a day " , so there's no danger of anorexia. "

Life is strange. I was a gawky skinny kid, always underweight and picky

about what I ate. Back then, more years ago that I like admit, my mother

was always trying to stuff more food into me. In those days a skinny kid

was an unhealthy kid. That picky eating may have added years to my life.

on 9/26/2002 9:48 PM, somejoanne2002 at bhsnz@... wrote:

>> Are your loved ones scared because you are on the edge of being

>> underweight/healthy and underweight/unhealthy?

>

> Some people *think* I am on that edge. I am not so sure...........