Two questions from a newbie.

[Guest guest]

Hello, I'm so glad I found this board. Sadly, it seems like I'm the

only one I know who has even heard of a CRON diet and lifestyle, much

less participates.

The internet ... what did we ever do without it ??

Background: I'm 26 years old and have been on the CRON Diet for 2

years. I read Walford's books after seeing him on a PBS special, and

started immediately. I'm 5'11 " and weighed 240 lbs when I started,

and I now weigh about 180 ... which avg.'s to about 2 to 3 lbs. a

month. Gradual but effective, so far so good. I grew up in an

overeating household and maintained a strict beer and pizza diet in

college. Thusly, I'm now starting to question what my " set point "

is, since I've never really lived a period in my life when I wasn't

either over-eating or on the CRON diet. I seem to have genetics that

would predispose me to having a higher set point than most (my dad

got a football scholarship to play offensive lineman in college and

my mother's side of the family has a lot of obesity ).

Question 1: How important is finding my set point ?? Should I

temporarily put aside my CRON deit I have made to find my set point

weight ?? I would really hate to stop the momentum and disciplined

I'm now just becoming familiar with, after adjusting to such a

drastic change in outloook, behaviour and lifestyle.

Question 2: I'm kind of a young bachelor who works a lot of hours.

I don't spend as much time preparing meals as I should, and I

occasionally have to resort to meal replacement bars and shakes to

stay in my calorie range. Not all the time, but maybe one meal a

day. Just reading the labels on them, they seem to be low

calorie/high nutrient source, but is it even a CLOSE resemblence to

Question 3: Since I don't get the wide array of veggies and

nutrients I would ideally get since eating, I try to use the Life

Extension Mix multivitamins at lef.org Walford supposedly has a

place on their board, and the Vitamins have unbelievable nutrient

content. The problem is they are rather expensive for my budget. I

don't mind paying the price as long as I feel they are worth it.

But are Supplements really worth paying a lot of money for ??

Typical Day mealplan ...

8:00 a.m. - Nutrient protein shake with a cup of skim milk and

frozen blueberries

10:00 a.m. - Turkey breast slices and a bannana

Noon - Salmon and brown rice & steamed spinach

3:00 pm - Cottage Cheese & Apple

6:00 - Meal replacement bar

8:00 - Tuna salad with a dab of maynaise and chopped kale.

Totals: 1300-1500 calories a day

Much thanks, and Good Journey to you.

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group!

Here are a few comments from someone on the CRON diet for 16 monthes.

1) Forget the set weight, you are doing just fine. You have

definitely lost a good amount of weight in a steady fashion and you

are at a low calorie level. As I was told early on in this group,

calories, calories, calories!!!

2) Your meals seams pretty balanced to me. If the shakes and

powerbars work for you keep it up. In my view we limit our calories

as it is so I want as much quality food as I can get.

3) Supplements are very confusing so you have to make your own

decision. Myself, I take a standard multi-vitamin, 400 U of vitamin

E, 500 mg vitamin C, and 2 brazilian nuts for selenium.

4) I have a wife and 2 kids that I cook for and I certainly

understand the lack of time, but it is worth the time to make several

meals at one time and freeze them. Also get some simple fresh veges

to eat (precut celery sticks, cherry tomatoes, baby carrots, sliced

red peppers, whole nuts etc...)

5)26 and full steam into this lifestyle! You got alot of good years

ahead. Just remember to stick with the eating lifestyle throughout

life.

Joe

> Hello, I'm so glad I found this board. Sadly, it seems like I'm

the

> only one I know who has even heard of a CRON diet and lifestyle,

much

> less participates.

>

> The internet ... what did we ever do without it ??

>

> Background: I'm 26 years old and have been on the CRON Diet for 2

> years. I read Walford's books after seeing him on a PBS special,

and

> started immediately. I'm 5'11 " and weighed 240 lbs when I

started,

> and I now weigh about 180 ... which avg.'s to about 2 to 3 lbs. a

> month. Gradual but effective, so far so good. I grew up in an

> overeating household and maintained a strict beer and pizza diet in

> college. Thusly, I'm now starting to question what my " set point "

> is, since I've never really lived a period in my life when I wasn't

> either over-eating or on the CRON diet. I seem to have genetics

that

> would predispose me to having a higher set point than most (my dad

> got a football scholarship to play offensive lineman in college and

> my mother's side of the family has a lot of obesity ).

>

> Question 1: How important is finding my set point ?? Should I

> temporarily put aside my CRON deit I have made to find my set point

> weight ?? I would really hate to stop the momentum and

disciplined

> I'm now just becoming familiar with, after adjusting to such a

> drastic change in outloook, behaviour and lifestyle.

>

> Question 2: I'm kind of a young bachelor who works a lot of

hours.

> I don't spend as much time preparing meals as I should, and I

> occasionally have to resort to meal replacement bars and shakes to

> stay in my calorie range. Not all the time, but maybe one meal a

> day. Just reading the labels on them, they seem to be low

> calorie/high nutrient source, but is it even a CLOSE resemblence to

>

> Question 3: Since I don't get the wide array of veggies and

> nutrients I would ideally get since eating, I try to use the Life

> Extension Mix multivitamins at lef.org Walford supposedly has a

> place on their board, and the Vitamins have unbelievable nutrient

> content. The problem is they are rather expensive for my budget.

I

> don't mind paying the price as long as I feel they are worth it.

>

> But are Supplements really worth paying a lot of money for ??

>

> Typical Day mealplan ...

>

> 8:00 a.m. - Nutrient protein shake with a cup of skim milk and

> frozen blueberries

>

> 10:00 a.m. - Turkey breast slices and a bannana

>

> Noon - Salmon and brown rice & steamed spinach

>

> 3:00 pm - Cottage Cheese & Apple

>

> 6:00 - Meal replacement bar

>

> 8:00 - Tuna salad with a dab of maynaise and chopped kale.

>

> Totals: 1300-1500 calories a day

>

> Much thanks, and Good Journey to you.

[Guest guest]

Welcome to our group C (name?):

Your subject line says you have " two " questions. I count at least four

:-)))). But we'll try to answer any and all the ones you have.

As Joe said : forget set point. Just count calories. Set point is a

dubious place and most of us have no idea what/where it was. You may

" discover' it when you get to a place where you " plateau " in your weight

loss. OTOH, you may not.

Shakes work well. Just don't eat too much fruit in them at the expense of

veggies. Try V-8 juice for a quick " salad " drink. Easy. Just open the can.

Add a squirt of lemon juice for " V-9 " juice and better flavor.

We're all just as confused about supplements as you are. Many of us have

cut way down on them or eliminated almost all. Now I only take Alpha-lipoic

Acid, L-carnitine and selenium (selenium cause I'm allergic to Brazil nuts).

Lastly your calorie level sounds awfully low for someone of your size. Just

make sure you're getting all the nutrients you need. No need to rush things

and it's good that you're taking it slow.

on 9/19/2002 3:05 PM, c_gillit at c_gillit@... wrote:

>

> Question 1: How important is finding my set point ?? Should I

> temporarily put aside my CRON deit I have made to find my set point

> weight ?? I would really hate to stop the momentum and disciplined

> I'm now just becoming familiar with, after adjusting to such a

> drastic change in outloook, behaviour and lifestyle.

>

> Question 2: I'm kind of a young bachelor who works a lot of hours.

> I don't spend as much time preparing meals as I should, and I

> occasionally have to resort to meal replacement bars and shakes to

> stay in my calorie range. Not all the time, but maybe one meal a

> day. Just reading the labels on them, they seem to be low

> calorie/high nutrient source, but is it even a CLOSE resemblence to

>

> Question 3: Since I don't get the wide array of veggies and

> nutrients I would ideally get since eating, I try to use the Life

> Extension Mix multivitamins at lef.org Walford supposedly has a

> place on their board, and the Vitamins have unbelievable nutrient

> content. The problem is they are rather expensive for my budget. I

> don't mind paying the price as long as I feel they are worth it.

>

> But are Supplements really worth paying a lot of money for ??