Re: Re: Oxalic acid???????

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On October 02, 2002 7:52 AM, Tim Tyler wrote: >Since these the vegetables (especially spinach) generally supply >lots of their own vitamins and minerals, deficiencies may not be a >big concern - but it's easy to wonder if Popeye wound up with>kidney stones... Choose your poison: "Foods containing these chemicals may be consumed in moderation. However, if you suffer from kidney disease, kidney stones, rheumatoid arthritis, or gout, it is usually recommended that you avoid foods that are high in oxalates or oxalic acid. Foods generally found on the list include: chocolate, cocoa, coffee, most berries (especially strawberries and cranberries), most nuts (especially peanuts), beans, beets, bell peppers, black pepper, parsley, rhubarb, spinach, swiss chard, summer squash, sweet potatoes, and tea. "Plant foods with high concentrations of oxalic acid (over 200 ppm) include (but are not limited to): lamb's-quarter, buckwheat, star fruit, black pepper, purslane, poppy seeds, rhubarb, tea, spinach, plantains, cocoa and chocolate, ginger, almonds, cashews, garden sorrel, mustard greens, bell peppers, sweet potatoes, soybeans, tomatillos, beets and beet greens, oats, pumpkin, cabbage, green beans, mango, eggplant, tomatoes, lentils, and parsnips." http://www.cloudnet.com/~djeans/Asides/OxalicAcid.htm

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Moderation and Variety. Two words to live by.

That said: this subject is not a major one. Nobody has yet complained of

kidney stones (although there have been other complaints about the side

effects of CR). Walford doesn't even mention it (at least I never found a

reference; if anyone else has, please post it). But the side effects of

Jammer's standard American diet are well known: obesity, heart disease,

high blood pressure, strokes, cancer and early death.......

on 10/2/2002 11:45 AM, Tom Kobzina at tkobzina@... wrote:

> On October 02, 2002 7:52 AM, Tim Tyler wrote:

>

>> Since these the vegetables (especially spinach) generally supply

>> lots of their own vitamins and minerals, deficiencies may not be a

>> big concern - but it's easy to wonder if Popeye wound up with

>> kidney stones...

>

> Choose your poison:

>

> " Foods containing these chemicals may be consumed in moderation. However, if

> you suffer from kidney disease, kidney stones, rheumatoid arthritis, or gout,

> it is usually recommended that you avoid foods that are high in oxalates or

> oxalic acid. Foods generally found on the list include: chocolate, cocoa,

> coffee, most berries (especially strawberries and cranberries), most nuts

> (especially peanuts), beans, beets, bell peppers, black pepper, parsley,

> rhubarb, spinach, swiss chard, summer squash, sweet potatoes, and tea.

> " Plant foods with high concentrations of oxalic acid (over 200 ppm) include

> (but are not limited to): lamb's-quarter, buckwheat, star fruit, black pepper,

> purslane, poppy seeds, rhubarb, tea, spinach, plantains, cocoa and chocolate,

> ginger, almonds, cashews, garden sorrel, mustard greens, bell peppers, sweet

> potatoes, soybeans, tomatillos, beets and beet greens, oats, pumpkin, cabbage,

> green beans, mango, eggplant, tomatoes, lentils, and parsnips. "

> http://www.cloudnet.com/~djeans/Asides/OxalicAcid.htm

>

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----- Original Message -----

From: " Francesca Skelton " <fskelton@...>

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Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 10:57 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Oxalic acid???????

> But the side effects of

> Jammer's standard American diet are well known: obesity, heart disease,

> high blood pressure, strokes, cancer and early death.......

I wonder if anyone has copyrighted that acronym:

Standard American Diet - SAD.

Fits.

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Sorry Jammer: I'm rootin' for ya (as you probably know). Let's try that

again: the SAD that Jammer was PREVIOUSLY on...........

on 10/2/2002 1:06 PM, ran7972002 at Jammer7@... wrote:

> But the side effects of

>> Jammer's standard American diet are well known

>

>

> Oh thanks a lot there Fran. Now it's " JAMMER'S " standard American

> diet. What, are we gonna start using the acronym JSAD now?