Guest guest Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 In a message dated 22/06/2005 21:42:47 GMT Daylight Time, karen@... writes: Well I am thoroughly confused now! I had a DDi hair test done for Joe as a marker before we start chelation and have had the result back. I have applied the counting rules and he doesn't meet any of the 3 steps. Does this mean there is no point in chelating? Mandi, or anyone,what do I do now? >>>have you been supplementing him for 3 months before the test? That can efect reults. I would do a trial anyeway Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 I thought there were 5 steps? >From: Mum231ASD@... >Reply-Desperate4DMPSEurope >Desperate4DMPSEurope >Subject: Re: Counting Rules >Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:03:13 EDT > > >In a message dated 22/06/2005 21:42:47 GMT Daylight Time, >karen@... writes: > >Well I am thoroughly confused now! I had a DDi hair test done for Joe >as a marker before we start chelation and have had the result back. I >have applied the counting rules and he doesn't meet any of the 3 >steps. Does this mean there is no point in chelating? Mandi, or >anyone,what do I do now? > > > > >>>have you been supplementing him for 3 months before the test? That can >efect reults. I would do a trial anyeway > >Mandi x _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2005 Report Share Posted June 23, 2005 > > > >>>have you been supplementing him for 3 months before the test? That can > efect reults. I would do a trial anyeway > Thanks Mandi yes I have been supplementing for about 3 years before the test! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2005 Report Share Posted June 23, 2005 --- > > I thought there were 5 steps? > >Well Stuart I've looked again and can only find 3 steps to ascertain abnormal mineral transport. Having read on to the next page though (always useful!) I have found the heading " when mineral transport is normal- other toxic metals " . I think this bit means that for Joe's result, the toxic metals section should be read as it looks ie high in aluminuim,antimony (in the red section),bismuth, lead, silver (but this was after I had given him colloidial silver) and tin.There was a little bit of mercury too. The row at the bottom of this section " total toxic representation " is also in the red. So now I am wondering does this mean if I chelate the toxic metals will come out easily as Joe is showing normal mineral transport (she says hopefully)? What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2005 Report Share Posted June 23, 2005 Hi did not meet the counting rules just before we started chelating - he had been on many supplements prior to this. We have been chelating now since january and have just repeated the hair test - he is now all over the place with 5 minerals in the red - he does meet the couting rules! Confusing or what. I have a consult with Dr Usman on Monday and will do a full report then. basically, as Mandi said, the counting rules are not 100% accurate if you have a good supplementation programme in place. is pulling toxic metals in the stool (nickel in the red), I am still waiting for the urine results. Based on our experience I would chelate for a while and see what happens. JMHO Tina Charman <karen@...> wrote: --- > > I thought there were 5 steps?> >Well Stuart I've looked again and can only find 3 steps to ascertain abnormal mineral transport. Having read on to the next page though (always useful!) I have found the heading "when mineral transport is normal- other toxic metals". I think this bit means that for Joe's result, the toxic metals section should be read as it looks ie high in aluminuim,antimony (in the red section),bismuth, lead, silver (but this was after I had given him colloidial silver) and tin.There was a little bit of mercury too. The row at the bottom of this section "total toxic representation" is also in the red.So now I am wondering does this mean if I chelate the toxic metals will come out easily as Joe is showing normal mineral transport (she says hopefully)? What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2005 Report Share Posted June 24, 2005 Hi ! I've got Andy Cutler's latest book, there are five in there.............where are you looking? I believe the hair test reflects mineral absorbtion in the period the hair sample has grown. So, If your mineral levels are looking normalish, then great - suggests minerals are getting where they need to. The supplementation will inevitably compensate for dietary as well as absorbtion and transportation issues. Your theory on being able to draw more out because the transport is interesting. If you could determine what the impact of diet and supplement is, then you may be able to draw conclusions. I'd chelate anyway if I was you. In my humble opinion, if your child has autism, metal toxicity is a reasonable bet. Hair tests, stool analysis simply give you different, additional pieces of evidence. Give it a reasonable period of time (3months). If you've seen no progress at all, then re-assess. If you get a chance give me a call tonight - wouldn't mind catching up generally. Regards Stuart >From: " Charman " <karen@...> >Reply-Desperate4DMPSEurope >Desperate4DMPSEurope >Subject: Re: Counting Rules >Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:02:13 -0000 > >--- > > > I thought there were 5 steps? > > > >Well Stuart I've looked again and can only find 3 steps to ascertain >abnormal mineral transport. Having read on to the next page though >(always useful!) I have found the heading " when mineral transport is >normal- other toxic metals " . I think this bit means that for Joe's >result, the toxic metals section should be read as it looks ie high in >aluminuim,antimony (in the red section),bismuth, lead, silver (but >this was after I had given him colloidial silver) and tin.There was a >little bit of mercury too. The row at the bottom of this >section " total toxic representation " is also in the red. >So now I am wondering does this mean if I chelate the toxic metals >will come out easily as Joe is showing normal mineral transport (she >says hopefully)? What do you think? > > > _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2005 Report Share Posted June 24, 2005 In a message dated 24/06/2005 18:29:21 GMT Daylight Time, karen@... writes: I'm off to see the Bay City Rollers,Osmonds, Cassidy and Essex tomorrow night! (about 30 years too late, but am going with my 2 best friends of that era so we can regress to age 11 together!) >>>OMG, I wish I was coming - where is this? Mandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2005 Report Share Posted June 24, 2005 Hi Stuart I got the info from one of the groups, CK2 or autismmercury, whichever one Andy Cutler is on (sorry to be so vague!), I think the counting rules were on a file there. I guess it doesn't really matter as I'm going to chelate anyway. Probably won't be able to call tonight as I have to go to a committee meeting (not happy about that, Friday nights are for eating pizza and drinking wine) but I will try to call Sunday night - I'm off to see the Bay City Rollers,Osmonds, Cassidy and Essex tomorrow night! (about 30 years too late, but am going with my 2 best friends of that era so we can regress to age 11 together!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2005 Report Share Posted June 24, 2005 > > > > >>>OMG, I wish I was coming - where is this? > Wembley, they are playing Sunday as well, might be some tickets left for Sunday night (saw it advertised in Sunday papers last week). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 hello, are the counting rules for the DDI hairtest anywhere on the web? i have andy's amalgam illness book, but not the newer hairtest book. the only " counting rules " in the amalgam book that i've found relate to symptoms and results of tests, p. 60-61. i think i have 14 " positives " out of 33 tests, which appears to be 99.9% indicative of mercury. am i understanding this correctly? even if i had 60 tests, it appears that 15 is about the most one could have to indicate mercury. gratefully, kendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/HOW_TO_hair_test.html#counting_rules Hope that helps, . > > Does anyone have a link to the mercury hair counting rules saved? I must have it somewhere, but I can't seem to find it. > > Thank you, > > Diane > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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