Re: Re: soy: to eat or not to eat

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Doug: I went to the website for more info. I read an article by Sally

Fallon and Enig. Sally Fallon seems to have no credentials except that

she is the author of a cookbook. Enig is a nutritionist. The article

admitted anecdotal evidence only. I'd like to see more info before I toss

out my soy. For example, scientific studies done and some recommendations

pro and con by people like Walford, Ornish, Weil - or other distinguised

recognizable names in the field of nutrition. As of this date all three of

the above mentioned scientists and doctors recommend eating soy (although

Walford does mention the one Hawaiian study in his book).

on 9/9/2002 4:35 PM, kair4me at oxyssage@... wrote:

> I made up my mind very easily. There wouldn't be a controversy if

> there were not some serious unanswered questions that haven't been

> adequately adressed yet.

>

> Soy is known to contain anti-nutrients, those that prevent the

> absorbtion of other nutrients into the body. It's interesting to

> note the orientals traditional use of soy as a food was in fermented

> forms which destroyed the anti-nutrient qualities. Todays commercial

> processing methods do not. In a CR program this could add additional

> concerns about receiving nutrition the body requires, while still

> keeping calories at a restricted level. http://www.westonaprice.org

> has a great history on the soybean. Here are just some reasons to

> avoid soy as taken from the above website.

> High levels of phytic acid in soy reduce assimilation of calcium,

> magnesium, copper, iron and zinc. Phytic acid in soy is not

> neutralized by ordinary preparation methods such as soaking,

> sprouting and long, slow cooking. High phytate diets have caused

> growth problems in children.

> Trypsin inhibitors in soy interfere with protein digestion and may

> cause pancreatic disorders. In test animals soy containing trypsin

> inhibitors caused stunted growth.

> Soy phytoestrogens disrupt endocrine function and have the potential

> to cause infertility and to promote breast cancer in adult women.

> Soy phytoestrogens are potent antithyroid agents that cause

> hypothyroidism and may cause thyroid cancer. In infants, consumption

> of soy formula has been linked to autoimmune thyroid disease.

> Vitamin B12 analogs in soy are not absorbed and actually increase the

> body's requirement for B12.

> Soy foods increase the body's requirement for vitamin D.

> Fragile proteins are denatured during high temperature processing to

> make soy protein isolate and textured vegetable protein.

> Processing of soy protein results in the formation of toxic

> lysinoalanine and highly carcinogenic nitrosamines.

> Free glutamic acid or MSG, a potent neurotoxin, is formed during soy

> food processing and additional amounts are added to many soy foods.

> Soy foods contain high levels of aluminum which is toxic to the

> nervous system and the kidneys.

>

> Doug

>

>

>

>>> Well now Joe, I can't help asking about the soy. Since I eat a

>> fairly significant amount of soy products, I am interested to know

>> why you avoid this particular food. Please enlighten me. Dave

>>> ----- Original Message -----

>>> From: joesmad2001

>>> @y...

>>> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 6:42 AM

>>> Subject: [ ] Vitamin E

>>>

>>>

>>> This may be late in the conversation but I noticed alot of foods

>>> posted that are rich in vitamin E. The one I eat everyday to

>> ensure

>>> I get enough (before hand I was not getting the RDA from food

>> mostl;y

>>> because I do not eat SOY) is almonds. 10 almonds cost 70

>> calories

>>> but supply 30% of the RDA in vitamin E, plus are

>> considered " healthy

>>> fats " . I also add ground almonsd to any muffins I make and also

>> to

>>> pancakes on weekend mornings.

>>>

>>> Joe

>>>

>>>

>>>