RE: Does CR Make You Hungrier?

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Suzanne and ALL:

Quick Summary: The analogy of abstinence from food, and

" letting the beast sleep " does not apply to some people's

experiences. Rather, they may find that the sleeping

beast becomes a more savage beast, when proper attention is

delayed for too long. So for all to understand, be aware:

Every person is different. No one person's experience is universal.

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Suzanne and ALL:

Here is a wonderful message that deserves special recognition.

It has an informed perspective from an experienced veteran.

Open discussion is very important. This message clearly

exemplifies why group List discussion is so beneficial.

Regular feeding may be much better for some, rather than delayed

gratification by fasting for too long. Ie, feed the beast a

little, and do it regularly. Don't anger him too much --

or else watch out!

Thus dietary aids (Satietrol?) make sense, to control too

rambunctious an appetite when the beast is more frequently fed.

I do coast easily through the day, without food, but only with

special aids (Sucralose cocoa drink helps me). Others may not

coast well without food the way I do, so please be certain that

one person's point of view (mine, for example) does not erroneously

prejudice you to thinking that only one particular method of

reducing calorie intake is correct.

By trial and error, experimenting with dietary aids, and learning

what works best for you -- that is how to succeed. It's done on

an individual by individual basis. Do what works best for you,

as discovered by your own experimentation and body's response.

I have received off-list emails, telling me my point of view is

too extremist -- and that may be exactly correct. I simply

express what works best for me. Be aware that for you --

something entirely different may be far better. Thus I apologize

if too strict or severe or extremist point of view is conveyed,

when the intention is to express only what actually works best

for me in practice, as discovered by trial and error -- the way

you discover for yourself what works best.

-- Warren

> On Tuesday, August 06, 2002 3:31 PM, Suzanne Cart [sMTP:massuz@...] wrote:

>

> The question has been put forth, " Does CR make you hungrier? " Speaking for

> myself, CR does indeed make me hungrier. Until I came to terms with this

> unfortunate fact of life, I was unable to successfully " do " CR. Fortunately,

> there are strategies for managing the increased appetite, beginning with

> recognition of it, and I no longer believe that emotionally or physically

> denying my hunger is healthful or neccesary to doing CR.

>

> The " beast " analogy is commonly used in drug and alcohol rehab. When you quit

> drinking (using, smoking, whatever) your attraction to your addiction

> diminishes over time. The longer you abstain, the less you think about your

> addictive substance. The " beast goes to sleep. " (One drink will wake up

> your sleeping beast immediately, with gasoline and hand grenades!) Eating is

> the opposite. The longer you go without eating, the angrier the beast

> becomes and the louder it cries for food. If it were otherwise, dieting

> would not be so difficult and obesity would not be a national epidemic. One

> of the most common mistakes dieters make is to eat too little during the day,

> causing irrational bingeing and overeating in the evening. A better strategy

> is to make friends with the beast--to become more, not less aware of the

> body's natural appetite and satiety signals.

>

> While it's interesting that " the beast " goes to sleep for some CRONies after

> periods of food deprivation, I don't believe this is a universal experience.

> Quite honestly, most of the people I've known who no longer experience their

> appetites are now six-feet under. Management rather than denial of one's

> appetite seems to me a more rational approach to CR. << File: ATT00002.html

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