Guest guest Posted March 31, 2001 Report Share Posted March 31, 2001 We use the brainchild nutritionals. I too was skeptical due to the cost but let me reassure you that the bottle is HUGE! The taste is extremely easily disguised in juice. My daughter will even take it straight out of a straw because she thinks it is juice. We have a VERY difficult time getting anything down her but these are easy and definitely worth the money. Trisha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2001 Report Share Posted April 1, 2001 Zinc from Kirkman is liquid and tastes great mixed in juice. I dont know of any liquid Mag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2001 Report Share Posted April 1, 2001 > Does anyone know a good quality liquid mineral that tastes good???? I am esp > interested in the zinc, mag, mang, Kirkman Lab has a powdered magnesium. Tastes slightly bland, a little sweet, slightly metallic aftertaste with water. Supposedly tasteless in juice. Haven't tried it with juice, but I'm guessing it would fine as it is drinkable in water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2001 Report Share Posted April 2, 2001 Is the Kirkman powdered Mag, Mag Oxide though. I thought with these kids we need to use Mag Citrate ? Better absorbtion, etc. I too love the liquid zinc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2001 Report Share Posted April 2, 2001 I didn't realize this until I called (duh!) but they won't make any of this without a .... prescription... so if that's a problem, you may want to look somewhere else for this stuff. Terri At 06:12 AM 4/3/01 -0500, you wrote: If you call Patsy at Prescription Compounds in Baton Rouge, sh'll make you a liquid Mag. Glycinate that is really easy to hide in juice or coke. My son takes it this way with no problem but gags on the other types. She'll also make you zinc cream and glutathione cream. We use all of these. Let me know if you want the number and I'll find it. WendiD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2001 Report Share Posted April 2, 2001 You can get liquid manganese, chromium, zinc, magnesium, copper and phosphorus from KTS Products. They all mix well with juice (pretty much required) so the flavor isn't a problem. In health, Mark Schauss www.cellamtewellness.com Re: [ ] Liquid minerals > Zinc from Kirkman is liquid and tastes great mixed in juice. I dont know of > any liquid Mag. > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2001 Report Share Posted April 2, 2001 The Kirkman powdered magnesium and their liquid zinc are excellent. If you need others like manganese, KTS Products has potassium permanganate in liquid form which needs to be mixed in juice. In health, Mark Schauss www.cellmatewellness.com [ ] Re: Liquid minerals > > > Does anyone know a good quality liquid mineral that tastes good???? > I am esp > > interested in the zinc, mag, mang, > > Kirkman Lab has a powdered magnesium. Tastes slightly bland, a > little sweet, slightly metallic aftertaste with water. Supposedly > tasteless in juice. Haven't tried it with juice, but I'm guessing it > would fine as it is drinkable in water. > > > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2001 Report Share Posted April 2, 2001 Oh great, glycinate is great! Thanks so much! (Luke's Mom) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2001 Report Share Posted April 2, 2001 Ok Mark where do we find KTS Products???? thanks, laurie --- In @y..., " Mark Schauss " <schauss@c...> wrote: > You can get liquid manganese, chromium, zinc, magnesium, copper and > phosphorus from KTS Products. They all mix well with juice (pretty much > required) so the flavor isn't a problem. > > In health, > Mark Schauss > www.cellamtewellness.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2001 Report Share Posted April 2, 2001 Oops. www.kt-solutions.com or 888-917-7765 [ ] Re: Liquid minerals > Ok Mark where do we find KTS Products???? > > thanks, > laurie > > > > You can get liquid manganese, chromium, zinc, magnesium, > copper and > > phosphorus from KTS Products. They all mix well with juice > (pretty much > > required) so the flavor isn't a problem. > > > > In health, > > Mark Schauss > > www.cellamtewellness.com > > > > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2001 Report Share Posted April 2, 2001 It was powdered mag malate. Now it's mag glycinate > Is the Kirkman powdered Mag, Mag Oxide though. I thought with these kids we > need to use Mag Citrate ? Better absorbtion, etc. I too love the liquid zinc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2001 Report Share Posted April 2, 2001 Hello Mark, What is the phone number or how do I contact KTS products. Thanks rogerf@... [ ] Re: Liquid minerals > > > > > > > Does anyone know a good quality liquid mineral that tastes good???? > > I am esp > > > interested in the zinc, mag, mang, > > > > Kirkman Lab has a powdered magnesium. Tastes slightly bland, a > > little sweet, slightly metallic aftertaste with water. Supposedly > > tasteless in juice. Haven't tried it with juice, but I'm guessing it > > would fine as it is drinkable in water. > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2001 Report Share Posted April 2, 2001 If you buy all six from KTS you can get them for $6.66 each (4 ounces each) or $7.95 as a single, and by the way the last one isn't potassium, it's phosphorus. The company who originally developed the liquid minerals was Life Balances (since in Chpater 7 bankruptcy) and I was their research coordinator for 8 years back in the 80's and early 90's. What KTS has developed is an easier method than the ones you mention from Emerson. The others recommend anywhere from 2 to 20 drops and the ones from KTS have a consistant 5 drops each, which in the case of magnesium chloride (which is the one with 20 drops per serving with theirs) is much more economical from KTS. In health, Mark Schauss www.cellmatewellness.com [ ] Liquid Minerals > You can get liquid manganese, chromium, zinc, magnesium, copper and > potassium > from Emerson Ecologics, Inc. They all mix well with juice and tasteless > when they're needed. A sales rep told me that these are the minerals > recommended by Kane for children. The minerals cost about $6.95. > Emerson also gives a 20% discount on all their products. Wanda > > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2001 Report Share Posted April 3, 2001 If you call Patsy at Prescription Compounds in Baton Rouge, sh'll make you a liquid Mag. Glycinate that is really easy to hide in juice or coke. My son takes it this way with no problem but gags on the other types. She'll also make you zinc cream and glutathione cream. We use all of these. Let me know if you want the number and I'll find it. WendiD Re: [ ] Re: Liquid minerals > Oh great, glycinate is great! Thanks so much! > (Luke's Mom) > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2001 Report Share Posted April 3, 2001 > You can get liquid manganese, chromium, zinc, magnesium, copper and > potassium > from Emerson Ecologics, Inc. They all mix well with juice and tasteless > when they're needed. A sales rep told me that these are the minerals > recommended by Kane for children. The minerals cost about $6.95. > Emerson also gives a 20% discount on all their products. Wanda Wanda, My wife is giving our son the electrolytes that she recommended to another parent. It is helping. She wanted to try the liquid minerals from her too. What should she ask them, if we want to get the ones that PK recommends? Steff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2001 Report Share Posted April 3, 2001 Mark, Can you tell us what form these liquid minerals are in - colloidal, ionic, etc? Is there a site that discusses them in some detail? I've never seen information on what dose you get with 5 drops, which would be nice for comparison purposes (e.g. 5 drops vrs. x mg. zinc). We have the iodine liquid mineral, and I'd love to know more about the source of the iodine. Thanks, K. > If you buy all six from KTS you can get them for $6.66 each (4 ounces each) > or $7.95 as a single, and by the way the last one isn't potassium, it's > phosphorus. The company who originally developed the liquid minerals was > Life Balances (since in Chpater 7 bankruptcy) and I was their research > coordinator for 8 years back in the 80's and early 90's. What KTS has > developed is an easier method than the ones you mention from Emerson. The > others recommend anywhere from 2 to 20 drops and the ones from KTS have a > consistant 5 drops each, which in the case of magnesium chloride (which is > the one with 20 drops per serving with theirs) is much more economical from > KTS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2001 Report Share Posted April 3, 2001 Well, I'm one of those who hasn't actually seen Dr. Amy yet, although I do have an appt, which I may very well make it to, in a couple months. I'm chelating with a dr. here in Calif who doesn't really care what supplements I give and doesn't keep up with that part of the whole chelation thing. I am trying to give the whole Dr. Amy supplement set, though, whether he cares or not. I might be able to get him to write a script, but I'd have to explain what the whole thing is about to him or his nurse. I don't think Amy can write me script for anything until we actually see her, eh? Btw, just got glycine and mg glycinate from Kirkman today, as well as pro bio gold. Can anyone tell me recommended dosages for 65 lbs? Terri At 08:23 AM 4/4/01 -0500, you wrote: Right, but if you use Dr. Amy, then they call her and get a RX. I had no problem and they got it from Trudy right away. My stuff arrived 2 days later. Wendi Re: [ ] Re: Liquid minerals I didn't realize this until I called (duh!) but they won't make any of this without a .... prescription... so if that's a problem, you may want to look somewhere else for this stuff. Terri At 06:12 AM 4/3/01 -0500, you wrote: If you call Patsy at Prescription Compounds in Baton Rouge, sh'll make you a liquid Mag. Glycinate that is really easy to hide in juice or coke. My son takes it this way with no problem but gags on the other types. She'll also make you zinc cream and glutathione cream. We use all of these. Let me know if you want the number and I'll find it. WendiD ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2001 Report Share Posted April 3, 2001 The form is ionic and I'll see what I can do to get KTS to post the dosages to their website in the next few weeks. I understand that the form of iodine being used, and anyone correct me if I'm wrong, is potassium iodide. The originator of the program of liquid minerals, Kitkoski, removed that mineral from the other 6 back in the mid-80's. He was of the opinion that it didn't belong in the mixture with juice. When I asked him about selenium and molybdenum he was pretty adamant in not adding them to juice. In health, Mark Schauss www.cellmatewellness.com Re: [ ] Liquid Minerals > Mark, > > Can you tell us what form these liquid minerals are in - colloidal, ionic, > etc? Is there a site that discusses them in some detail? I've never seen > information on what dose you get with 5 drops, which would be nice for > comparison purposes (e.g. 5 drops vrs. x mg. zinc). We have the iodine > liquid mineral, and I'd love to know more about the source of the iodine. > > Thanks, K. > > > If you buy all six from KTS you can get them for $6.66 each (4 ounces > each) > > or $7.95 as a single, and by the way the last one isn't potassium, it's > > phosphorus. The company who originally developed the liquid minerals was > > Life Balances (since in Chpater 7 bankruptcy) and I was their research > > coordinator for 8 years back in the 80's and early 90's. What KTS has > > developed is an easier method than the ones you mention from Emerson. The > > others recommend anywhere from 2 to 20 drops and the ones from KTS have a > > consistant 5 drops each, which in the case of magnesium chloride (which is > > the one with 20 drops per serving with theirs) is much more economical > from > > KTS. > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2001 Report Share Posted April 3, 2001 Dear heyjude, Mark and everyone else, Thank you both for taking the time to explain these different versions of liquid minerals. Currently my sons are taking the E-Lyte Liquid Minerals. I followed heyjude's lead and called Emerson Ecologics today. I was basically told the same thing but the gentleman I spoke with was a bit more helpful. He did tell me a few things that would appear on this list as a bit unsavory. Suffice it to say, I think our pediatrician was correct in choosing E-Lyte Liquid Mineral. Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt, M.D, Ph.D., and since many consider him to be the foremost authority of mercury detox in the US I would have to believe there is some sort of fundamental difference between E-Lyte Liquid Minerals and the KTS Liquid Minerals. Mark I must admit unfairness to you. You obviously spent valuable time to prepare and share this information. My one regret is that I was unable to contact anyone to obtain more information about the KTS Liquid Minerals. You mention Kitkoski as the originator of the program of liquid minerals. Can you tell me how to get in touch with him or someone in the position to share a little more information. When I called Emerson Ecologics today, the fact the E-Lyte Liquid Minerals are made under sterile conditions was stressed repeatedly. Who would be the best person to speak with about the KTS Liquid Minerals in reference to the laboratory conditions and the sterility of the environment they are produced in. The little 4 ounce individual bottles I have follows. Please notice that none of them require the 20 drop dosage you suggest. Trace Minerals 1) potassium phosphate 13 drops 2) zinc sulfate 7 drops 3) Magnesium chloride 10 drops 4) copper sulphate 4 drops 5) Chromium 5 drops. 6) Manganese 7 drops 7) Molybdenum 3 drops Ultra-Trace Minerals 8) selenium 3 drops. 7) Iodine 3 drops I am interested in getting more information. For instance if the company that originally developed the liquid minerals was Life Balances who is the person who originally developed them? I'm hoping that as a former research coordinator for for Life Balances for 8 years you will have a contact person for me. You've provided so much information on this subject already I hate to put you on the spot but when it comes to information about the KTS Liquid Minerals you seemed to be a good source of information! Regards, Charlene Pagac 330-544-4018 > If you buy all six from KTS you can get them for $6.66 each (4 ounces each) > or $7.95 as a single, and by the way the last one isn't potassium, it's > phosphorus. The company who originally developed the liquid minerals was > Life Balances (since in Chpater 7 bankruptcy) and I was their research > coordinator for 8 years back in the 80's and early 90's. What KTS has > developed is an easier method than the ones you mention from Emerson. The > others recommend anywhere from 2 to 20 drops and the ones from KTS have a > consistant 5 drops each, which in the case of magnesium chloride (which is > the one with 20 drops per serving with theirs) is much more economical from > KTS. > > In health, > Mark Schauss > www.cellmatewellness.com > > [ ] Liquid Minerals > > > > You can get liquid manganese, chromium, zinc, magnesium, copper and > > potassium > > from Emerson Ecologics, Inc. They all mix well with juice and tasteless > > when they're needed. A sales rep told me that these are the minerals > > recommended by Kane for children. The minerals cost about $6.95. > > Emerson also gives a 20% discount on all their products. Wanda > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2001 Report Share Posted April 3, 2001 The originator of the program of liquid minerals, Kitkoski, removed that mineral from the other 6 back in the mid-80's. He was of the opinion that it didn't belong in the mixture with juice. When I asked him about selenium and molybdenum he was pretty adamant in not adding them to juice. > > In health, > Mark Schauss > www.cellmatewellness.com Mark, I hope you don't mind one more question. Why? I've been adding the Liquid Minerals to juice for nine months now. It's a bit disturbing now to hear that they should not be mixed in juice. Do you know why? Regards, Charlene Pagac 330-544-4018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2001 Report Share Posted April 4, 2001 Right, but if you use Dr. Amy, then they call her and get a RX. I had no problem and they got it from Trudy right away. My stuff arrived 2 days later. Wendi Re: [ ] Re: Liquid minerals I didn't realize this until I called (duh!) but they won't make any of this without a .... prescription... so if that's a problem, you may want to look somewhere else for this stuff.TerriAt 06:12 AM 4/3/01 -0500, you wrote: If you call Patsy at Prescription Compounds in Baton Rouge, sh'll make you aliquid Mag. Glycinate that is really easy to hide in juice or coke. My sontakes it this way with no problem but gags on the other types. She'll alsomake you zinc cream and glutathione cream. We use all of these. Let meknow if you want the number and I'll find it.WendiD======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2001 Report Share Posted April 4, 2001 In reality, there is little fundamental difference between E-Lyte Minerals (not the electrolytes) and KTS Products. Secondly, Kitkoski is one of the more difficult people to get a hold of and is in the midst of a legal battle which I am aware of but staying far, far away from. His company, Life Balances, is out of business so, the liquid minerals they created are not available as far as I know. As far as proving that they created it, easy to do as I have copies of material they copyrighted back in the '80's with almost the identical set of drops E-Lyte uses, aside from the magnesium chloride which had 20 drops. What KTS did was make it easier for the individual to use the liquid minerals by standardizing the drops to 5 each. This helps decrease the potential for error. One of your other posts mentioned why you shouldn't use the ultra-trace minerals in juice. Very simple answer - the original 6 minerals were formulated so that using the sense of taste you could judge when your body needed them or more importantly didn't need them. The concept of how this works is for my book as it would take 20-30 pages to give it justice. With the ultra-trace minerals that isn't the case. Because they are found in such small quantities in the body, it can't tell when you've had too much. And as many know, selenium and molybdenum can be toxic if you take too much (as with the others but the sense of taste helps protect against that). As for the iodine, it seems to be best used by itself from what we've seen in the past. I have no doubt that the minerals are produced in a clean and carefully monitored environment by E-Lyte and that is at it should be. KTS is very sensitive to the production quality and of all of their products. They subcontract almost all of the production of their products to top-quality manufacturers, including Kirkman Labs and Energique (for herbals). This is true of many of the well known brand names out there like Allergy Research Group. KTS presently has 5 different electrolyte solutions (4 more coming) to provide a more customized product than others. Hope this clears up things. In health, Mark Schauss www.cellmatewellness.com [ ] Liquid Minerals > > > > > > > You can get liquid manganese, chromium, zinc, magnesium, copper > and > > > potassium > > > from Emerson Ecologics, Inc. They all mix well with juice and > tasteless > > > when they're needed. A sales rep told me that these are the > minerals > > > recommended by Kane for children. The minerals cost > about $6.95. > > > Emerson also gives a 20% discount on all their products. Wanda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2001 Report Share Posted April 17, 2001 Dear Mark: Could you please tell me the web site for the liquid vitamins? Thanks! Mark Schauss wrote: The form is ionic and I'll see what I can do to get KTS to post the dosages to their website in the next few weeks. I understand that the form of iodine being used, and anyone correct me if I'm wrong, is potassium iodide. The originator of the program of liquid minerals, Kitkoski, removed that mineral from the other 6 back in the mid-80's. He was of the opinion that it didn't belong in the mixture with juice. When I asked him about selenium and molybdenum he was pretty adamant in not adding them to juice. In health, Mark Schauss www.cellmatewellness.com Re: [ ] Liquid Minerals > Mark, > > Can you tell us what form these liquid minerals are in - colloidal, ionic, > etc? Is there a site that discusses them in some detail? I've never seen > information on what dose you get with 5 drops, which would be nice for > comparison purposes (e.g. 5 drops vrs. x mg. zinc). We have the iodine > liquid mineral, and I'd love to know more about the source of the iodine. > > Thanks, K. > > > If you buy all six from KTS you can get them for $6.66 each (4 ounces > each) > > or $7.95 as a single, and by the way the last one isn't potassium, it's > > phosphorus. The company who originally developed the liquid minerals was > > Life Balances (since in Chpater 7 bankruptcy) and I was their research > > coordinator for 8 years back in the 80's and early 90's. What KTS has > > developed is an easier method than the ones you mention from Emerson. The > > others recommend anywhere from 2 to 20 drops and the ones from KTS have a > > consistant 5 drops each, which in the case of magnesium chloride (which is > > the one with 20 drops per serving with theirs) is much more economical > from > > KTS. > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2003 Report Share Posted April 24, 2003 ENIVA.com In a message dated 4/24/2003 2:11:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dbern@... writes: > Hi group, > I was wondering whether anyone has found a liquid mineral supplement > for chelation ( one that has multiple minerals). Thanks, > > Donna > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2003 Report Share Posted April 24, 2003 Hi I use brainchild spectrum 2 which is designed for detox support, it has a mineral bottle and a vits bottle, call Micheal at 831-465- 0104, hope this help gordon > Hi group, > I was wondering whether anyone has found a liquid mineral supplement > for chelation ( one that has multiple minerals). Thanks, > > Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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