Guest guest Posted November 3, 2000 Report Share Posted November 3, 2000 I have a question about nails...my two big toenails have the P under them partially & are partially detatched...I am dealing with that...BUT...my finger nails...right now one thumb and my left index finger..the nails HURT...I can't really explain it but they just hurt to the touch..like if I bump them .. it's like they are constantly sore...is this the beginning of getting the psoriatic nails? There's nothing visible about them..they look ok...just wondered if anyone else knows how that starts....thanks:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2001 Report Share Posted September 9, 2001 Anne, Well the good news is that there are actually some very good doctors in Australia who do know alot about plagio. There are also at least 3 capital cities that make helmets as well. Also you may want to let you Aunty know that Australia main centre for deformational plagio is right here in Adelaide. The doctors name is Dr. . He is in Melbourne Street, ADelaide. If you know anyone needing help in Adelaide, be sure that they see Dr.. He is the best in Adelaide by a mile when it comes to plagio or any other cranio issue. Goodl uck, Simon Adelaide, Australia > I have an Aunt in-law who is a nurse in Adelaide, Australia. Whe I asked her to look up some Dr.'s names who deal with Cranio and Plagio, she found no one who did helmet treatment. She says that: > > . " I checked with a neurologist here in Adelaide re: specialist services and he knew of no health professionals in Australia dealing with the condition. He said the condition itself is benign (like Livia with no adverse developmental effects). If a child had this condition and also suffered developmental delay they would consider that it might perhaps be a syndrome and send the child for treatment of the delay. " > > I find this nuts! I really feel for all of you moms in Australia. It sounds like it is hard to find treatment. > > Anne > mom of Livia(10 mo) > Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2003 Report Share Posted April 7, 2003 I am so glad you girls hooked up. Obsessed is the best way to be when doing Repositioning. I think you will be fine it sounds like you are on top of things. I do think you can see improvements in a few days when you have a newborn. It may seem to hault. Take lots of photos of the head so you can refer back to them. I found video was the best for me. I could circle above and get all sides. You also don't have to wait for your film to be developed. Do you have a camcorder? If not tell hubby that you just have to buy one now...((JUST JOKING..hehehe)) I love to give my DH a reason that we " have " to buy something. Of course I see his face tighten up when I start a sentence with " You know what we need? " (LOL) Take Care, Heidi-SAHM to 7-1/2, 4-3/4 (Apraxia, DSI) 12 months (VUR, tort/Plagio-DOCbandit 2/14/03) > Hi Natasha, > > I am from Sydney also! Thanks for posting! It is good to know of someone else in Sydney with the same things going on! I had never heard of plagiocephaly before and now i am wondering how that is possible! It is really amazing how if something is not affecting you directly then you dont know of it? I am still having trouble finding out anything from Australian websites etc?? But i will keep trying to find things! > > I have been repositioning Ella all the time (i think i have become a little obsessed!) but call me crazy, i think i can see a slight improvement after only a few days? Is this possible? > I am going to stick with it, but if in the end helmet therapy is required then that is what we will do too. > Was it a difficult process getting the helmet etc? If you dont mind me asking? I have no idea what is involved? I am really afraid that the paediatrician will tell me not to worry about it as it is mild (and he seemed so casual about it) and that then nothing will be done etc?? I just have to remember to not be a pushover! > Its not that i want Ella to be perfect (well i guess everyone wants their child to be perfect!), i just want her to be happy with herself when she is older and so if this is what it takes to correct something (even if the dr considers it cosmetic) then that is what i will do! > > Ok, sorry for my rambling! I hope you are well and that you are enjoying our beautiful weather! > Take care > Love Kristy > > > New to Group > > > Hi everyone, > > My name is Kristy and i am new to the group! I have a nearly 8 week > old baby girl called Ella who has mild plagiocephaly. > > When Ella was about 3 weeks old, we noticed that one side of her > forehead was becoming more prominent than the other (it had always > been that way since she was born, but we thought it would go) so we > took her to the GP as we thought there was something wrong with her > brain?? The GP said it was nothing to worry about and just to mention > it to the paediatrician at the 6 week check up. > > Last Thursday we went for her check up and the Dr told us that Ella > has mild plagiocephaly and to start positioning her with alternate > sleeps and then he would review when she is 4 months old as she may > need a helmet and they have to check if the skull had fused because > this would be bad. > > As you can imagine i was worried - i had never heard of plagiocephaly > before - and so i started to read up on it. The Dr didnt seem very > interested or concerned so his information wasnt very forthcoming.... > i found your great support website and have learned so much. > > I am trying the positioning techniques as best i know how? and if > anyone has any tips then they would be greatly appreciated i hope > that if i work at this then things will have improved by her > appointment in 2 months time.... > > I am sorry for rambling on in my very first message...i am so worried. > > There is not much Australian information on plagiocephaly? Is there > anyone else here who is from Australia? > > My last question (for now ) is that i saw on the website a baby > positioner that looks perfect for us by Graco. It is called the Graco > Curved Back Sleeper (it is the one with the head support thing). I > cant get it here in Australia and no one seems to be able to order it > for me.. Does anyone know if i can order this product online as the > Graco website doesnt seem to let you order??? > > Anyway, i hope to get to know you all and your families! Thankyou for > listening. My husband and i appreciate it! > Take care > Love Kristy > > > > For more plagio info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2003 Report Share Posted June 22, 2003 HENNRY!! WELCOME TO YOU. I AM SO GLAD THAT YOU FINALLY DECIDED TO LOOK INTO THE LDN. I AM PRETTY SURE YOU COULD FIND A DOCTOR THAT WILL PRESCRIBE THE LDN FOR YOU. IF CAN BE ANY DOCTOR. JUST FIND A FORWARD THINKING ONE, ONE THAT IS INTO ALTERNATIVES. TRY THE WWW.LEF.ORG SITE AND CLICK ON INNOVATIVE DOCTORS. THEY HAVE LISTINGS ALL OVER THE WORLD. PERHAPS YOU WILL FIND ONE THERE. YOU CAN STILL SEE YOUR OWN NEURO IF THAT IS WHAT YOU CHOOSE TO DO. IF YOU CAN'T FIND A COMPOUNDER TO COMPOUND THE LDN TO THE 3 OR 4.5MG THEN TRY AND CALL THE APOTHECURE. I TALKED TO THE GUY THERE AND HE CLAIMS THAT THEY SHIP ALL OVER THE WORLD. HE ALSO STATED THAT IF THE DOCTOR IS OUT OF THE STATES THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO SHIP DIRECT TO THE DOCTOR THOUGH. THEIR NUMBER IS (800) 969-6601. IF AND WHEN YOU ARE READY JUST LET ME KNOW AND I WILL CALL FOR YOU. ONCE AGAIN...WELCOME TO THE GROUP. JOYCE. From: " hennryjh " <gramee@...> low dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Australia Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 02:45:38 -0000 G'day all I am looking into LDN on the advise of Joyce who I have known for many years. I have been on injectable interefrons for over 4 years now to treat my MS, but finally have had enough of sticking needles into myself. Does anyone know anything about LDN being used in Australia? I am contacting the distributors in Australia, Orphan, to see what they know. I have found a compounding chemist so they should be able to organise that side. If anyone can give me advise on people in Australia, I would appreciate it. Thanks Hennry _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 Hi Hennry, I am well sure there were here some postings from Australians taking LDN. I remember very well one of them that also explained how to make the LDN from the liquid 50 mg Antaxone flacon mixing it with simple syrup and water. Unfortunately I cannot find that old email. However I have found from my inbox about another folk taking LDN for HIV in Australia. He might be helpful to you to tell you how to get Naltrexone there. His email is paulyboystanley@... Good Luck Massimo hennryjh <gramee@...> wrote: G'day allI am looking into LDN on the advise of Joyce who I have known for many years. I have been on injectable interefrons for over 4 years now to treat my MS, but finally have had enough of sticking needles into myself. Does anyone know anything about LDN being used in Australia?I am contacting the distributors in Australia, Orphan, to see what they know. I have found a compounding chemist so they should be able to organise that side.If anyone can give me advise on people in Australia, I would appreciate it.ThanksHennry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 GOOD ONE MAX, YES, I DO REMEMBER PAUL FROM AUSTRALIA NOW. HE IS TAKING THE LDN FOR HIV AND SEEMED QUITE HAPPY WITH IT IF I REMEMBER RIGHT. THE ANTAXONE IS THE ITALIAN VERSION OF THE NALTREXONE NO? JOYCE From: Max <maxbtm@...> hennryjh <gramee@...>, low dose naltrexone Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Australia Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 17:38:56 +0100 (BST) Hi Hennry, I am well sure there were here some postings from Australians taking LDN. I remember very well one of them that also explained how to make the LDN from the liquid 50 mg Antaxone flacon mixing it with simple syrup and water. Unfortunately I cannot find that old email. However I have found from my inbox about another folk taking LDN for HIV in Australia. He might be helpful to you to tell you how to get Naltrexone there. His email is paulyboystanley@... Good Luck Massimo hennryjh <gramee@...> wrote: G'day all I am looking into LDN on the advise of Joyce who I have known for many years. I have been on injectable interefrons for over 4 years now to treat my MS, but finally have had enough of sticking needles into myself. Does anyone know anything about LDN being used in Australia? I am contacting the distributors in Australia, Orphan, to see what they know. I have found a compounding chemist so they should be able to organise that side. If anyone can give me advise on people in Australia, I would appreciate it. Thanks Hennry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 That's right, Joice, Antaxone is one of the Italian Naltrexone based products produced by Zambon Italia (I think Nalorex and Narcoral are others)... not quite sure how it is called in Australia... Ciao wkendz 32 <wkendz32@...> wrote: GOOD ONE MAX,YES, I DO REMEMBER PAUL FROM AUSTRALIA NOW. HE IS TAKING THE LDN FOR HIV AND SEEMED QUITE HAPPY WITH IT IF I REMEMBER RIGHT. THE ANTAXONE IS THE ITALIAN VERSION OF THE NALTREXONE NO? JOYCEFrom: Max hennryjh , low dose naltrexone Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] AustraliaDate: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 17:38:56 +0100 (BST)Hi Hennry,I am well sure there were here some postings from Australians taking LDN. I remember very well one of them that also explained how to make the LDN from the liquid 50 mg Antaxone flacon mixing it with simple syrup and water. Unfortunately I cannot find that old email. However I have found from my inbox about another folk taking LDN for HIV in Australia. He might be helpful to you to tell you how to get Naltrexone there. His email is paulyboystanley@...Good LuckMassimohennryjh wrote:G'day allI am looking into LDN on the advise of Joyce who I have known formany years. I have been on injectable interefrons for over 4 yearsnow to treat my MS, but finally have had enough of sticking needlesinto myself. Does anyone know anything about LDN being used inAustralia?I am contacting the distributors in Australia, Orphan, to see whatthey know. I have found a compounding chemist so they should be ableto organise that side.If anyone can give me advise on people in Australia, I wouldappreciate it.ThanksHennry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 If you are looking for a Doctor who might prescribe LDN for you, you might find one at www.acam.org. Noland ----- Original Message ----- From: " hennryjh " <gramee@...> <low dose naltrexone > Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 8:45 PM Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Australia > G'day all > I am looking into LDN on the advise of Joyce who I have known for > many years. I have been on injectable interefrons for over 4 years > now to treat my MS, but finally have had enough of sticking needles > into myself. Does anyone know anything about LDN being used in > Australia? > I am contacting the distributors in Australia, Orphan, to see what > they know. I have found a compounding chemist so they should be able > to organise that side. > If anyone can give me advise on people in Australia, I would > appreciate it. > Thanks > Hennry > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2003 Report Share Posted December 27, 2003 Hi Jarom You are really doing a great job of seeing Australia. I am glad you are having such a good time. I couldnt imagine living anywhere else but I guess I am a bit prejudiced. Perth is beautiful at this time of the year. We are swimming everyday. Our holidays are different here too as our kids have their long break at this time of the year. School doesnt go back until early Feb which is VERY happy about. He has had a pretty big year with his second implant and really needs a good rest. So if I see an American guy wandering around Perth with an implant on I will make sure to say G'day! We are north of the river (Ocean Reef) your friend will know what I mean. Perth isnt that big a place. Kathy mum to N22 Mar 97 N24 Mar 03 > Kathy, > > I spent time in Sydney and Brisbane (I am in Brisbane right now). I am > going to Perth in few days to visit my friend who I have not seen for few > years. My family are going to Melbourne on the same day I fly out to Peth > and I will meet them in Melbourne. I went camping for 2 days and it was > so fun! I saw many animals like kangaroo and stuff like that... They are > more cuter than they looks on the television... > Yes, the people are VERY friendly! Many people would ask me questions > about America like what New York City is like and stuff like that... And > I got many ideas what I should do while I am in Australia... The weather > is perfect for me! Australia is one of the most beautiful country I have > ever been to... I would recommend everybody to go to Australia if they > can. I find that Auslan (Australian Sign Language) is very similiar to > BSL (British Sign Language) Which is good thing because my friend use > Auslan and I only know how to use BSL! WHEW!!! :-) > > Cheer > > Jar > > ________________________________________________________________ > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2003 Report Share Posted December 29, 2003 Jarom, I've absouetly no idea that you're planning to visit the most beautiful Australia for your vacation. I'd say that I agree with you about the beautiful country because my mother had been there several times during her business trip with Dr. Covey. She loves it there. My parents and their good friends are hoping to go down to Austraila for their adventure trip in the next few years or sooner. That's a MUST for them. I hope you've had a wonderful Christmas and your CI moments during the hoilday season. I had wonderful CI moment on my skiing trip. It's wonderful to hear people talking and the ice when they made their turn on snowboard. WOW. That's so cool. That's where I was on uplifiting ride and watched the people down there below me. I had hard time skiing because I fell alot on the Flathead and there's so much snow I can hardly ski with my left knee and legs huring so bad due to falling often since I've not skied for 11 years. Plus I wasn't exercising lately. Hey, I had to ride on the topag (I cannot spell it) to the bottom and then rode the uplifting chair down to the very bottom. I couldn't ski anymore for the next half day while my family contiunted to ski rest of day. I hope I will do it better next time. I still get frustarting with my batteries. I don't know which I sure use it. I defiently like Varta better than power one implant plus. But I can't use Varta on 1800 ACE because it lasts short time of battery life. Smile, Dana Brower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 I am a new member in Australia and have been diagnosed with RRMS recently after 4 neurological episodes over the last 5 years with the latest being severe optic neuritis. I have been following the progress of LDN now for about 6 months in anticipation of eventually being diagnosed. I noted that Pete/ in Australia have a father with the disease and have a supply of LDN from I presume a local Australian pharmacist. I would appreciate any information anyone can supply on Australian doctors who might supply a scrip and a compounding chemist who will make up such a scrip. many thanks in Sydney Australia -----Original Message----- From: pete/lisa [mailto:petelisa@...] Sent: 14/02/04 10:29 PM low dose naltrexone Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Cornstarch filler My Dad's chemist uses corn starch as a filler. I think it is quite common. in Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: " lindafahrbach " <Lee@...> <low dose naltrexone > Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 4:41 AM Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Cornstarch filler > Is cornstarch a good filler? I have trouble with lactose. Anyone > out there using cornstarch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 Hi , My father is taking LDN for cancer. (He is currently in remission from Kidney Cancer, after having his Kidney removed in April 2003) His G.P. gave him a prescription for ReVia @ 25 mg's which his local pharmacy compounds with cornflour into 4.5mg capsules. E-mail me off list for info re: G.P. and chemist if you need to. I hope this helps. in Melbourne Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: " roger fountain " <rogerf@...> <low dose naltrexone > Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 10:17 PM Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] Australia > I am a new member in Australia and have been diagnosed with RRMS recently > after 4 neurological episodes over the last 5 years with the latest being > severe optic neuritis. I have been following the progress of LDN now for > about 6 months in anticipation of eventually being diagnosed. I noted that > Pete/ in Australia have a father with the disease and have a supply of > LDN from I presume a local Australian pharmacist. I would appreciate any > information anyone can supply on Australian doctors who might supply a > scrip and a compounding chemist who will make up such a scrip. > many thanks > > in Sydney Australia > > -----Original Message----- > From: pete/lisa [mailto:petelisa@...] > Sent: 14/02/04 10:29 PM > low dose naltrexone > Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Cornstarch filler > > > My Dad's chemist uses corn starch as a filler. > I think it is quite common. > in Australia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: " lindafahrbach " <Lee@...> > <low dose naltrexone > > Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 4:41 AM > Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Cornstarch filler > > > > Is cornstarch a good filler? I have trouble with lactose. Anyone > > out there using cornstarch? > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 Hi, Me too! I am 45 km south east of Melbourne and in the process of preparing some info for my GP so she will prescribe LDN for me. I don't really foresee any problems as she has proven over the past 10 years to be open minded, so if anybody has info on chemists out this way who know what they're doing with LDN I would appreciate finding out about them. Thanks, roger fountain wrote: > I am a new member in Australia and have been diagnosed with RRMS recently > after 4 neurological episodes over the last 5 years with the latest being > severe optic neuritis. I have been following the progress of LDN now for > about 6 months in anticipation of eventually being diagnosed. I noted > that > Pete/ in Australia have a father with the disease and have a supply of > LDN from I presume a local Australian pharmacist. I would appreciate any > information anyone can supply on Australian doctors who might supply a > scrip and a compounding chemist who will make up such a scrip. > many thanks > > in Sydney Australia -- . ,-._|\ Covington / Oz \ \_,--.x/ v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 Thank you for your email. I have a son living in Melbourne. I don't know much about LDN but anything is worth a try isn't it? Best wishes Pat -------Original Message------- From: low dose naltrexone Date: 02/15/04 13:17:09 low dose naltrexone Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Australia Hi, Me too! I am 45 km south east of Melbourne and in the process of preparing some info for my GP so she will prescribe LDN for me. I don't really foresee any problems as she has proven over the past 10 years to be open minded, so if anybody has info on chemists out this way who know what they're doing with LDN I would appreciate finding out about them. Thanks, roger fountain wrote: > I am a new member in Australia and have been diagnosed with RRMS recently > after 4 neurological episodes over the last 5 years with the latest being > severe optic neuritis. I have been following the progress of LDN now for > about 6 months in anticipation of eventually being diagnosed. I noted > that > Pete/ in Australia have a father with the disease and have a supply of > LDN from I presume a local Australian pharmacist. I would appreciate any > information anyone can supply on Australian doctors who might supply a > scrip and a compounding chemist who will make up such a scrip. > many thanks > > in Sydney Australia -- . ,-._|\ Covington / Oz \ \_,--.x/ v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 In a message dated 11/6/04 7:15:17 AM Mountain Standard Time, SSRI medications writes: > I am here looking for a Doctor or Psychiatrist in Australia > who " believes " that ssri's can cause this zombie syndrome. (I have > to fight an insurance company about loss of the business from > zombification caused by ssris) > > Dear Jane: Haven't you had some high profile murder cases where an SSRI was involved??? I can't remember them off the top of my head, but if you do some searching you will probably find them. There must have been doctors who testified that the drug was at fault. Those doctors might be able to help you. Yes, what you are describing is the handiwork of Paxil. As for the heart thing, I went to the doctor last week complaining of the same thwamp thwamp that I've had in my chest since taking this drug SEVEN YEARS AGO!!!! All tests come up normal, but there's something going on; one doctor suggested that it has to do with vasoconstriction, since we know that serotonin IS a vasoconstrictor. All those diet drugs that caused heart valve damage were also serotonin-tweakers, so it wouldn't surprise me if the big surprise later in the game is that we all have heart damage from these bleeping drugs. Do you still work for Eli Lilly???? " Blind Reason " a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's Unsafe At Any Dose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 In a message dated 11/6/04 7:15:17 AM Mountain Standard Time, SSRI medications writes: > I am here looking for a Doctor or Psychiatrist in Australia > who " believes " that ssri's can cause this zombie syndrome. (I have > to fight an insurance company about loss of the business from > zombification caused by ssris) > > Dear Jane: Haven't you had some high profile murder cases where an SSRI was involved??? I can't remember them off the top of my head, but if you do some searching you will probably find them. There must have been doctors who testified that the drug was at fault. Those doctors might be able to help you. Yes, what you are describing is the handiwork of Paxil. As for the heart thing, I went to the doctor last week complaining of the same thwamp thwamp that I've had in my chest since taking this drug SEVEN YEARS AGO!!!! All tests come up normal, but there's something going on; one doctor suggested that it has to do with vasoconstriction, since we know that serotonin IS a vasoconstrictor. All those diet drugs that caused heart valve damage were also serotonin-tweakers, so it wouldn't surprise me if the big surprise later in the game is that we all have heart damage from these bleeping drugs. Do you still work for Eli Lilly???? " Blind Reason " a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's Unsafe At Any Dose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 Hi Glitter Thanks for your suggestion of finding an anti-ssri psychiatrist in Australia from looking up court cases. I dont follow the media much and I am not aware of high profile cases but I'll go look. From what I read up on the heart thing, ssri's can cause changes to the electical impulses in the heart and can be a feature in overdose, but I suppose you know all his. I wouldn't be surprised if they did have long term heart effects. Some of the side effects caused by Paxil in my husband were so obscure at the time it didnt occur to us, but looking back it is clear that is what caused it. (Like chronic boils in the nose!! which started after he went on the drug and would not go away, even with antibiotics, until he stopped taking the drug) - is that obscure or what! Have you written a book? I would be interested in knowing more about it. I worked for Eli Lilly for about a year, 1994 I think. Prozac was making a big push in the market here at the time. It is a rather scary thought that when I go to a doctor in my area he got his information on SSRI's from me. I dont have a lot of confidence in what doctors prescribe and why. When working for Eli Lilly we were told all the stuff about how safe ssri's were and it was very convincing. Given the Tricyclics (older antidepressants)are lethal if you take a packet, or only a few tablets if you are a child, then in that way SSRI's are safer in overdose situations. But as we know now that is only a little bit of hte story. One thing I do remember though was that somehow we (the reps) knew that the drug trials which led to the approval of Prozac were only done on taking the drug for three months or so (this could be wrong) - but what has happened is that then doctors were just leaving people on them. So large numbers of people were put on these drugs without official studies on what would happen to them. Scary. I remember some of the brochures said some people had to be left on long term, this seemed to be interpreted generally as most people had to be left on long term, if not all their lives. It was also suggested to us that if the doctors said their patients had side effects we should suggest that they were the side effects of depression, not the drug. YOu will be all to familiar with the argument. While there are studies done on suicide etc. Do you know if there have been official public studies on long term ssri use? and if so then on what criteria? I would say alot of the side effects of the ssri's can be insidious and subtle, not really apparent until someone is a real zombie, and then not obvious until after someone stops taking them. I think that some changes are not necessarily reversible. My husband took them to eat better and gain weight and improve sleep and cope with the stress of working too much - not because anyone diagnosed him as depressed. Once he was on them he was - ex hyposes - a depressed person. You take an anti-depressant therefore you are a depressed person. Well he certainly was 6 months after he started taking them. He was a mess so the doctor gave him a double dose....mmm Back to the subject of long term on-reversible changes. the drugs let him eat properly and gain weight significantly for the first time in his life. Three years after stopping the drugs he has been able to maintain the weight and has had his entire physique radically altered as a consequence of the drugs. If they can leave such a radical physical difference (in this case a positive one) then obviously they can do the same thing to the brain or other body parts!! I presume it is not possible to get the medical world to accept that these drugs may make permanent changes to peoples brains and personalities - except in one case - where the companies do claim that a depressed person may get better because of the drug and be permanently fixed (so if the positive effect is non-reversible then the negative is too?) Jane > In a message dated 11/6/04 7:15:17 AM Mountain Standard Time, > SSRI medications writes: > > > > I am here looking for a Doctor or Psychiatrist in Australia > > who " believes " that ssri's can cause this zombie syndrome. (I have > > to fight an insurance company about loss of the business from > > zombification caused by ssris) > > > > > Dear Jane: Haven't you had some high profile murder cases where an SSRI was > involved??? I can't remember them off the top of my head, but if you do some > searching you will probably find them. There must have been doctors who > testified that the drug was at fault. Those doctors might be able to help you. > Yes, what you are describing is the handiwork of Paxil. As for the heart thing, > I went to the doctor last week complaining of the same thwamp thwamp that > I've had in my chest since taking this drug SEVEN YEARS AGO!!!! All tests come > up normal, but there's something going on; one doctor suggested that it has to > do with vasoconstriction, since we know that serotonin IS a vasoconstrictor. > All those diet drugs that caused heart valve damage were also > serotonin-tweakers, so it wouldn't surprise me if the big surprise later in the game is that > we all have heart damage from these bleeping drugs. Do you still work for Eli > Lilly???? > > > " Blind Reason " > a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue > Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's > Unsafe At Any Dose > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 Hi Glitter Thanks for your suggestion of finding an anti-ssri psychiatrist in Australia from looking up court cases. I dont follow the media much and I am not aware of high profile cases but I'll go look. From what I read up on the heart thing, ssri's can cause changes to the electical impulses in the heart and can be a feature in overdose, but I suppose you know all his. I wouldn't be surprised if they did have long term heart effects. Some of the side effects caused by Paxil in my husband were so obscure at the time it didnt occur to us, but looking back it is clear that is what caused it. (Like chronic boils in the nose!! which started after he went on the drug and would not go away, even with antibiotics, until he stopped taking the drug) - is that obscure or what! Have you written a book? I would be interested in knowing more about it. I worked for Eli Lilly for about a year, 1994 I think. Prozac was making a big push in the market here at the time. It is a rather scary thought that when I go to a doctor in my area he got his information on SSRI's from me. I dont have a lot of confidence in what doctors prescribe and why. When working for Eli Lilly we were told all the stuff about how safe ssri's were and it was very convincing. Given the Tricyclics (older antidepressants)are lethal if you take a packet, or only a few tablets if you are a child, then in that way SSRI's are safer in overdose situations. But as we know now that is only a little bit of hte story. One thing I do remember though was that somehow we (the reps) knew that the drug trials which led to the approval of Prozac were only done on taking the drug for three months or so (this could be wrong) - but what has happened is that then doctors were just leaving people on them. So large numbers of people were put on these drugs without official studies on what would happen to them. Scary. I remember some of the brochures said some people had to be left on long term, this seemed to be interpreted generally as most people had to be left on long term, if not all their lives. It was also suggested to us that if the doctors said their patients had side effects we should suggest that they were the side effects of depression, not the drug. YOu will be all to familiar with the argument. While there are studies done on suicide etc. Do you know if there have been official public studies on long term ssri use? and if so then on what criteria? I would say alot of the side effects of the ssri's can be insidious and subtle, not really apparent until someone is a real zombie, and then not obvious until after someone stops taking them. I think that some changes are not necessarily reversible. My husband took them to eat better and gain weight and improve sleep and cope with the stress of working too much - not because anyone diagnosed him as depressed. Once he was on them he was - ex hyposes - a depressed person. You take an anti-depressant therefore you are a depressed person. Well he certainly was 6 months after he started taking them. He was a mess so the doctor gave him a double dose....mmm Back to the subject of long term on-reversible changes. the drugs let him eat properly and gain weight significantly for the first time in his life. Three years after stopping the drugs he has been able to maintain the weight and has had his entire physique radically altered as a consequence of the drugs. If they can leave such a radical physical difference (in this case a positive one) then obviously they can do the same thing to the brain or other body parts!! I presume it is not possible to get the medical world to accept that these drugs may make permanent changes to peoples brains and personalities - except in one case - where the companies do claim that a depressed person may get better because of the drug and be permanently fixed (so if the positive effect is non-reversible then the negative is too?) Jane > In a message dated 11/6/04 7:15:17 AM Mountain Standard Time, > SSRI medications writes: > > > > I am here looking for a Doctor or Psychiatrist in Australia > > who " believes " that ssri's can cause this zombie syndrome. (I have > > to fight an insurance company about loss of the business from > > zombification caused by ssris) > > > > > Dear Jane: Haven't you had some high profile murder cases where an SSRI was > involved??? I can't remember them off the top of my head, but if you do some > searching you will probably find them. There must have been doctors who > testified that the drug was at fault. Those doctors might be able to help you. > Yes, what you are describing is the handiwork of Paxil. As for the heart thing, > I went to the doctor last week complaining of the same thwamp thwamp that > I've had in my chest since taking this drug SEVEN YEARS AGO!!!! All tests come > up normal, but there's something going on; one doctor suggested that it has to > do with vasoconstriction, since we know that serotonin IS a vasoconstrictor. > All those diet drugs that caused heart valve damage were also > serotonin-tweakers, so it wouldn't surprise me if the big surprise later in the game is that > we all have heart damage from these bleeping drugs. Do you still work for Eli > Lilly???? > > > " Blind Reason " > a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue > Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's > Unsafe At Any Dose > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Hey there Veri, What a pity we couldn't help you with your preparation about all things Australian. It's a fairly unique country in its flora and fauna. Some very strange little creatures living in some unbelievable places!! Yes Kookaburras are real! And unreal!! They live in family groups and are nicknamed " The Bushman's Clock " as they start to call out to each other at sunset and sunrise each day and it sounds like raucous laughter. Each family has a different laugh apparently, but blowed if I can tell the difference overall. They just crack me up when they laugh at all. They're good to have around because we also have spiders and reptiles down the back...the brown snake and red belly black snake are quite venomous (amongst the world's most dangerous), but Kookaburras eat them so I'm ok with that. Blue Tongue lizards are freaky when they pop up alongside your house looking for food, and can give you a nasty bite so we watch them from a distance. We also live in an area for Funnel Web Spiders- one of the deadliest spiders in the world. And there are even sharks and Blue-Ringed Octopus in the Lake, so we watch out for those if we ever venture in. Ah yes, Australia is home to many deadly creatures (even the platypus is venomous!), but you're safe if you know the rules and use common sense. The possums and fruit bats (or 'flying foxes') steal the fruit off the banana trees and passionfruit vines we have along the fence line. I don't know that I've ever got to eat a home-grown banana yet! We also have Tawny Frog Mouths (birds) and different kinds of owls in the bush reserve down the back of our house, oh and cuckoos and bellbirds too. And even a small pod of dolphins that I have seen at the bottom of our street (alongside the Lake). And at the moment there are Humpback Whales off the beaches heading up from Antarctica. So cool. Mind you, I could do without the Cicadas in summertime. They can be deafening!! If you want to check out more, there's a good site at http://www.australianfauna.com/ <http://www.australianfauna.com/> And naturally, if anyone is headed Down Under, we'd love you to say " G'day " ! Jo Bayly, 7, extended oligo > > Jo,? > > Our kids Summer Vacation Bible School had the theme of Austrailia, the land down under. I sure wish I had used my head and sent you a note.?Each?year as we are getting ready for?Bible School I use a lot of interesting facts to?help the kids get interested and excited about it. This year I had a horrible time finding interesting?facts for kids. I found plenty of information that might be interesting for adults but?not kids.? It irritates me that I did not even think to send?you an e-mail.? When you mentioned Kookaburra's in the gumtree?to is what made me think.? I remember the song about the kookaburra in the old gumtree from when I was a kid but I never even knew there really was such a thing as a kookaburra until this summer.? I think I might of thought it? was kind of like a fairytail thing or something.? Oh well too late to go back for now but next year as we get ready for our Bible school I will try to think about someone that lives in thepart of theworld that we depicting with our theme.? > > Veri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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