Re: Anyone know where to get LDN in So.Cal?

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,

Some thoughts regarding this portion of your post:

....I know there are web sites I could get 50mg Naltrexone with no prescription that I could modify, but I'm not sure that will work...

If naltrexone is water soluble, could you not dissolve the 50mg in 50cc's of distilled water and take out the corresponding dose by dividing that figure into the total amount of the mixture? Anyone... any thoughts on the viability of this?

Regards,

Emanuel

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Thank you so much for your response, Emanuel!

This is so incredible. I have received several responses that I will

follow up on.

This site is wonderful. I am so encouraged now.

Thank you again!!

Peace and good health

>

,

Some thoughts regarding this portion of your post:

....I know there are web sites I could get 50mg Naltrexone with no

prescription that I could modify, but I'm not sure that will work...

If naltrexone is water soluble, could you not dissolve the 50mg in

50cc's of distilled water and take out the corresponding dose by

dividing that figure into the total amount of the mixture? Anyone...

any thoughts on the viability of this?

Regards,

Emanuel

[Guest guest]

Hi Emanuel,

I think there are several people over at the www.goodshape.net bulletin

board that take the LDN by mixing it up in water. I think what they do is

make very small portions cuz it does not stay viable for a long time. You

might ask that question over that at that bb. They do buy the Naltrexone at

the larger dose cuz it is much more cost effective this way. I decide not to

try to do it myself cuz it was way too important for me to try and guess on

all that. Good luck. Joyce.

From: Emanuel C Montera

low dose naltrexone

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Anyone know where to get LDN in So.Cal?

D,

Some thoughts regarding this portion of your post:

....I know there are web sites I could get 50mg Naltrexone with no

prescription that I could modify, but I'm not sure that will work...

If naltrexone is water soluble, could you not dissolve the 50mg in 50cc's of

distilled water and take out the corresponding dose by dividing that figure

into the total amount of the mixture? Anyone... any thoughts on the

viability of this?

Regards,

Emanuel

ate: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 23:32:48 -0400

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,

Some thoughts regarding this portion of your post:

....I know there are web sites I could get 50mg Naltrexone with no prescription that I could modify, but I'm not sure that will work...

If naltrexone is water soluble, could you not dissolve the 50mg in 50cc's of distilled water and take out the corresponding dose by dividing that figure into the total amount of the mixture? Anyone... any thoughts on the viability of this?

Regards,

Emanuel

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no, they take histamine that way

On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, wkendz 32 wrote:

> Hi Emanuel,

> I think there are several people over at the www.goodshape.net bulletin

> board that take the LDN by mixing it up in water. I think what they do is

> make very small portions cuz it does not stay viable for a long time. You

> might ask that question over that at that bb. They do buy the Naltrexone at

> the larger dose cuz it is much more cost effective this way. I decide not to

> try to do it myself cuz it was way too important for me to try and guess on

> all that. Good luck. Joyce.

>

>

> From: Emanuel C Montera

> low dose naltrexone

> Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Anyone know where to get LDN in So.Cal?

> D,

>

> Some thoughts regarding this portion of your post:

>

> ...I know there are web sites I could get 50mg Naltrexone with no

> prescription that I could modify, but I'm not sure that will work...

>

> If naltrexone is water soluble, could you not dissolve the 50mg in 50cc's of

> distilled water and take out the corresponding dose by dividing that figure

> into the total amount of the mixture? Anyone... any thoughts on the

> viability of this?

>

> Regards,

> Emanuel

>

>

> ate: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 23:32:48 -0400

>

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Hi again ,

I just re-read your message...duh..you did say no to the MS research so that

answers that question. As far as the Naltrexone. Pretty sure there has been

talk about mixing up the 50 mg tablets in water at that site too. Think

several use it that way. Not sure where else I would have seen it. Joyce.

From: " G. Harding " <philh@...>

wkendz 32 <wkendz32@...>

CC: e.montera@..., <low dose naltrexone >

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Anyone know where to get LDN in So.Cal?

Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 07:08:23 -0400 (EDT)

no, they take histamine that way

On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, wkendz 32 wrote:

> Hi Emanuel,

> I think there are several people over at the www.goodshape.net bulletin

> board that take the LDN by mixing it up in water. I think what they do is

> make very small portions cuz it does not stay viable for a long time. You

> might ask that question over that at that bb. They do buy the Naltrexone

at

> the larger dose cuz it is much more cost effective this way. I decide not

to

> try to do it myself cuz it was way too important for me to try and guess

on

> all that. Good luck. Joyce.

>

>

> From: Emanuel C Montera

> low dose naltrexone

> Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Anyone know where to get LDN in So.Cal?

> D,

>

> Some thoughts regarding this portion of your post:

>

> ...I know there are web sites I could get 50mg Naltrexone with no

> prescription that I could modify, but I'm not sure that will work...

>

> If naltrexone is water soluble, could you not dissolve the 50mg in 50cc's

of

> distilled water and take out the corresponding dose by dividing that

figure

> into the total amount of the mixture? Anyone... any thoughts on the

> viability of this?

>

> Regards,

> Emanuel

>

>

> ate: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 23:32:48 -0400

>

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Oh I totally agree. Personally I think it is way too important to try and do

it myself. I do however understand why some do it. It is incredibly cheap

this way and some just cannot afford the compounder prices. I say whatever

way you can do it then by all means. If doing it yourself is the only way

you can do it well, I say go for it. Joyce.

From: " G. Harding " <philh@...>

wkendz 32 <wkendz32@...>

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Anyone know where to get LDN in So.Cal?

Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 07:46:54 -0400 (EDT)

I'll check that out but I know they talked about refrigerating histamine

to keep it stable and that their method did not require that.

I think playing pharmacist with drugs such as LDN is dangerous and

unscientific.... histamine is a bit more forgiving.

phil

On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, wkendz 32 wrote:

> Hi again ,

> I just re-read your message...duh..you did say no to the MS research so

that

> answers that question. As far as the Naltrexone. Pretty sure there has

been

> talk about mixing up the 50 mg tablets in water at that site too. Think

> several use it that way. Not sure where else I would have seen it. Joyce.

>

>

> From: " G. Harding " <philh@...>

> wkendz 32 <wkendz32@...>

> CC: e.montera@..., <low dose naltrexone >

> Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Anyone know where to get LDN in

So.Cal?

> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 07:08:23 -0400 (EDT)

>

> no, they take histamine that way

>

> On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, wkendz 32 wrote:

>

> > Hi Emanuel,

> > I think there are several people over at the www.goodshape.net

bulletin

> > board that take the LDN by mixing it up in water. I think what they do

is

> > make very small portions cuz it does not stay viable for a long time.

You

> > might ask that question over that at that bb. They do buy the

Naltrexone

> at

> > the larger dose cuz it is much more cost effective this way. I decide

not

> to

> > try to do it myself cuz it was way too important for me to try and

guess

> on

> > all that. Good luck. Joyce.

> >

> >

> > From: Emanuel C Montera

> > low dose naltrexone

> > Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Anyone know where to get LDN in

So.Cal?

> > D,

> >

> > Some thoughts regarding this portion of your post:

> >

> > ...I know there are web sites I could get 50mg Naltrexone with no

> > prescription that I could modify, but I'm not sure that will work...

> >

> > If naltrexone is water soluble, could you not dissolve the 50mg in

50cc's

> of

> > distilled water and take out the corresponding dose by dividing that

> figure

> > into the total amount of the mixture? Anyone... any thoughts on the

> > viability of this?

> >

> > Regards,

> > Emanuel

> >

> >

> > ate: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 23:32:48 -0400

> >

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[Guest guest]

Hello everyone, apologies for not posting lately, I've been changing ISP.

Back online again now :-)

I have to disagree slightly with the " dangerous and unscientific " comment

below. It's as scientific as you make it. If you don't know how to do it,

then it almost certainly will be unscientific. Scientific just means that

you do things in a methodical and logical manner. Hopefully people would

have enough sense to know they don't know what they're doing, and not do it.

I have used both precompounded pills, and diluted 50mg pills myself. I have

noticed NO difference at all when I switch between the two. I mostly use

the precompounded pills, but wanted to have a decent supply of 50mg pills to

hand as well, as a " backup " . My first doses of LDN was in diluted form, in

fact.

It's very easy as long as you're comfortable with some basic maths and a

teeny tiny bit of " lab work " . Crush up a 50mg pill to a very fine powder

and dilute it in X amount of distilled water. You want a certain

concentration, say 4.5mg per 10ml (if you have a 10ml measuring cylinder,

this is ideal, and what I use). So 50mg/X = 4.5mg/10ml. Therefore, solving

for X, you dilute the crushed 50mg pill in (50*10)/4.5 = 111.1 ml. So

dissolve a 50mg pill up in 0.111 litre for 4.5mg per 10ml. Easy

The naltrexone DOES NOT dissolve in the solution, it merely hangs in

suspension, so it's important to shake the bottle before measuring out your

10ml each night. I also quote the LDN website here: " If LDN is used in a

liquid form, it is important to keep it refrigerated. " .

You can also buy glucose solutions (to use instead of distilled water) from

pharmacies that will allow you to keep the solution stable at room

temperature. They are usually expensive though.

Anyway, if you've ever done any lab work, or are confident with the math and

your ability to be methodical, then I would suggest this method is just as

reliable as precompunded pills, perhaps more so unless you're dealing with a

compounder that makes a lot of LDN. If not, then it's probably best to get

it from a compounder. Certainly never do anything drugwise without being

sure, and without getting good advice!

Good luck people, and all the best.

Matt.

From: " G. Harding " <philh@...>

wkendz 32 <wkendz32@...>

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Anyone know where to get LDN in So.Cal?

Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 07:46:54 -0400 (EDT)

I'll check that out but I know they talked about refrigerating histamine

to keep it stable and that their method did not require that.

I think playing pharmacist with drugs such as LDN is dangerous and

unscientific.... histamine is a bit more forgiving.

phil

On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, wkendz 32 wrote:

> Hi again ,

> I just re-read your message...duh..you did say no to the MS research so

that

> answers that question. As far as the Naltrexone. Pretty sure there has

been

> talk about mixing up the 50 mg tablets in water at that site too. Think

> several use it that way. Not sure where else I would have seen it. Joyce.

>

>

> From: " G. Harding " <philh@...>

> wkendz 32 <wkendz32@...>

> CC: e.montera@..., <low dose naltrexone >

> Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Anyone know where to get LDN in

So.Cal?

> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 07:08:23 -0400 (EDT)

>

> no, they take histamine that way

>

> On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, wkendz 32 wrote:

>

> > Hi Emanuel,

> > I think there are several people over at the www.goodshape.net

bulletin

> > board that take the LDN by mixing it up in water. I think what they do

is

> > make very small portions cuz it does not stay viable for a long time.

You

> > might ask that question over that at that bb. They do buy the

Naltrexone

> at

> > the larger dose cuz it is much more cost effective this way. I decide

not

> to

> > try to do it myself cuz it was way too important for me to try and

guess

> on

> > all that. Good luck. Joyce.

> >

> >

> > From: Emanuel C Montera

> > low dose naltrexone

> > Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Anyone know where to get LDN in

So.Cal?

> > D,

> >

> > Some thoughts regarding this portion of your post:

> >

> > ...I know there are web sites I could get 50mg Naltrexone with no

> > prescription that I could modify, but I'm not sure that will work...

> >

> > If naltrexone is water soluble, could you not dissolve the 50mg in

50cc's

> of

> > distilled water and take out the corresponding dose by dividing that

> figure

> > into the total amount of the mixture? Anyone... any thoughts on the

> > viability of this?

> >

> > Regards,

> > Emanuel

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

There are cases where 50mg tablets have been mixed with pharmaceutical grade syrup or water. However, due to its theoretical instability in liquid form it must be kept refrigerated and is recommended that no more than a months supply be mixed at a time.

Noland

----- Original Message -----

From: Emanuel C Montera

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 9:32 PM

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Anyone know where to get LDN in So.Cal?

, Some thoughts regarding this portion of your post:...I know there are web sites I could get 50mg Naltrexone with no prescription that I could modify, but I'm not sure that will work...

If naltrexone is water soluble, could you not dissolve the 50mg in 50cc's of distilled water and take out the corresponding dose by dividing that figure into the total amount of the mixture? Anyone... any thoughts on the viability of this?

Regards,

Emanuel

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/30/03 11:18:25 AM, rangeus50@... writes:

>There are cases where 50mg tablets have been mixed with pharmaceutical

>grade syrup or water. However, due to its theoretical instability in liquid

>form it must be kept refrigerated and is recommended that no more than

>a months supply be mixed at a time.

==========================

Noland, Thanks for this warning!

Anyone have information about how Pharmacies usually get 50 mg to 4.5 mg

legally without distilled water or other sterile products? Or do you have to ask

the Pharmacist?

I refer to the US since some people may be from other Countries and I don't

know what is required here or elsewhere.

Vikee

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/1/03 3:58:32 AM, matt_j_dixon@... writes:

>Bigger pharmacies will purchase the Naltrexone bulk, in powder form, They

>will just mix it with an appropriate amount of filler, and pop the well

>mixed result into a gel-capsule.

===============================

Matt, This is good to know. Thanks!

I suspect each person must be a good and knowledgeable consumer (in general)

and check out just how the LDN is prepared at the Pharmacy you wish to deal

with!

Now can we believe what the Pharmacy says? Do we believe drug companies? Who

do we believe in this mad money hungry world!

Forgive my vent....I have been just not believing anybody but my heart and my

internal gut sensor these days. I am 61 and have seen it all one more time!

But... I am a product of the 60's and still I Believe In Magic...Well

sometimes! LOL

Vikee

[Guest guest]

Bigger pharmacies will purchase the Naltrexone bulk, in powder form, They will just mix it with an appropriate amount of filler, and pop the well mixed result into a gel-capsule.

-----Original Message-----From: vikee1@... [mailto:vikee1@...]Sent: 01 July 2003 06:34rangeus50@...; low dose naltrexone ; e.montera@...Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Anyone know where to get LDN in So.Cal?

In a message dated 6/30/03 11:18:25 AM, rangeus50@... writes:>There are cases where 50mg tablets have been mixed with pharmaceutical>grade syrup or water. However, due to its theoretical instability in liquid>form it must be kept refrigerated and is recommended that no more than>a months supply be mixed at a time.==========================Noland, Thanks for this warning! Anyone have information about how Pharmacies usually get 50 mg to 4.5 mg legally without distilled water or other sterile products? Or do you have to ask the Pharmacist?I refer to the US since some people may be from other Countries and I don't know what is required here or elsewhere.Vikee

[Guest guest]

Hi Vikee,

I knew there was something I liked about you....you're my

age...lol.

How come you're not on ldn yet? You can't " vent " unless you've

tried it...lol. Thanks for your reply to my sleeping problem. I

guess the secret is, not when you sleep, but the quality of that

sleep. I just feel sleep deprived staying up all night and sleeping

during the day. I love mornings....and if I stay up all night, I

only see them thru bloodshot eyes. And I also feel a little

guilty....I sort of ignor the needs of my family....they sleep at

night, like normal people...lol. I have grandkids, who are growing

up while I sleep, and a husband of 34 yrs....who likes it....lol

Well, anyway, I am going to try to get myself back on track and back

to " normal " . Thanks for your input....and I am 62.....

Hugs, Sally

>

> In a message dated 7/1/03 3:58:32 AM, matt_j_dixon@y... writes:

>

> >Bigger pharmacies will purchase the Naltrexone bulk, in powder

form, They

> >will just mix it with an appropriate amount of filler, and pop

the well

> >mixed result into a gel-capsule.

> ===============================

> Matt, This is good to know. Thanks!

>

> I suspect each person must be a good and knowledgeable consumer

(in general)

> and check out just how the LDN is prepared at the Pharmacy you

wish to deal

> with!

>

> Now can we believe what the Pharmacy says? Do we believe drug

companies? Who

> do we believe in this mad money hungry world!

>

> Forgive my vent....I have been just not believing anybody but my

heart and my

> internal gut sensor these days. I am 61 and have seen it all one

more time!

> But... I am a product of the 60's and still I Believe In

Magic...Well

> sometimes! LOL

>

> Vikee

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/1/03 9:37:47 AM, salpal@... writes:

>I just feel sleep deprived staying up all night and sleeping

>

>during the day. I love mornings....and if I stay up all night, I

>

>only see them thru bloodshot eyes.

================================================

Hi Sally,

It's good to know another person from way back when!!! The good old days!

I didn't realize you did say you felt sleep deprived and really felt it!

Brain fog (cognition)!! I wish I did, that would get me back to mornings!!! When

I

see and feel the sun rise it's on my patio as the light starts to light the

window above my computer!!!! I do love this time and it reminds me of childhood

and mornings in the Country while in upstate NY (I lived in the city)!

I was Dx with MS in my early 50's but can trace it back to age 17 with

paralysis on my left side (trunk, arm, hand and fingers). It lasted about 4

months

as a mystery disease with strange on and off symptoms (including Optic

Neuritis) for many years and remitted for many more, then slowly came back and

what I

thought was an inner ear infection showed up as MS on a few tests including

MRI! I was relieved and happy to learn I had MS cause it explained so many

physical symptoms considered anxiety!!!

With LDN.......long story .......in short.... am waiting for Dr.

visits......and research on IBS (Irritable Bowel Syndrome).... I accept my MS

disability

and limitations (still walk with a cane slowly) but would take LDN for

fatigue!!!! Some damage I have I feel can't be corrected without nerve growth. I

have

other physical and mental Symptoms which I and my Drs. choose to medicate

heavily so would rather not add more medication....fully realize LDN may help

all of them!!! I go into the water with great caution and slow speed!

Hugs, Vikee

[Guest guest]

THANKS VIKEE,

WELCOME TO THE " OFsWMSC " (old farts with ms club)...lmho. I'VE

BEEN BLESSED WITH MS FOR ABOUT 35 YRS. ALTHOUGH I DID HAVE A

BLESSED 17 YEAR REMISSION. AS SOON AS OUR DAUGHTER GRADUATED FROM

COLLEGE, I CAME OUT OF REMISSION WITH A BANG....AND IT'S BEEN

BANGING EVER SINCE.

THANKS TO LDN, AND FRIENDS LIKE YOU, AND OF COURSE GOD AND DR

BAHARI, I AM FINALLY COPING BETTER AND FEELING BETTER.

HUGS, SALLY

>

> In a message dated 7/1/03 9:37:47 AM, salpal@d... writes:

>

> >I just feel sleep deprived staying up all night and sleeping

> >

> >during the day. I love mornings....and if I stay up all night, I

> >

> >only see them thru bloodshot eyes.

> ================================================

> Hi Sally,

> It's good to know another person from way back when!!! The good

old days!

>

> I didn't realize you did say you felt sleep deprived and really

felt it!

> Brain fog (cognition)!! I wish I did, that would get me back to

mornings!!! When I

> see and feel the sun rise it's on my patio as the light starts to

light the

> window above my computer!!!! I do love this time and it reminds me

of childhood

> and mornings in the Country while in upstate NY (I lived in the

city)!

>

> I was Dx with MS in my early 50's but can trace it back to age 17

with

> paralysis on my left side (trunk, arm, hand and fingers). It

lasted about 4 months

> as a mystery disease with strange on and off symptoms (including

Optic

> Neuritis) for many years and remitted for many more, then slowly

came back and what I

> thought was an inner ear infection showed up as MS on a few tests

including

> MRI! I was relieved and happy to learn I had MS cause it explained

so many

> physical symptoms considered anxiety!!!

>

> With LDN.......long story .......in short.... am waiting for Dr.

> visits......and research on IBS (Irritable Bowel Syndrome).... I

accept my MS disability

> and limitations (still walk with a cane slowly) but would take LDN

for

> fatigue!!!! Some damage I have I feel can't be corrected without

nerve growth. I have

> other physical and mental Symptoms which I and my Drs. choose to

medicate

> heavily so would rather not add more medication....fully realize

LDN may help

> all of them!!! I go into the water with great caution and slow

speed!

>

> Hugs, Vikee