9pm - 3am for everyone?

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Does anyone know what Dr. Bihari says about this?

Should we be taking LDN between 9pm and 3am regardless of the hours we live on?

I work 12-8, I sleep from 7-11PM, I was planning on taking it 6PM just before

I'm ready to go to sleep, or maybe 5PM when I can get to sleep a bit earlier.

Or should I be taking LDN at midnight, regardless of whether I'm going to sleep

at 1am (weekends/nights off), or just waking up to start " my day " ?

I'm a bit confused about it now. I happen to be on day hours this week, so I'm

taking it between midnight and 3am when I get ready for sleep.

I'm in NYC, but I have Russian blood... so 6PM NY time is 1AM in Minsk. Does

that work?

LDN doesn't " work while you sleep " ? It works based on the circadian rhythm of

my day working neighbors regardless of the hours I keep???

----- Original Message -----

From: " G. Harding " <philh@...>

" LarryGC " <larrygc@...>

Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 06:32

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Why is this night different from all other

nights?

> Larry,

> I don't know if it matters, but the Penn State researcher told me " if you

> can't take it at night (presumably due to insomnia) take it the next

> morning " . He said I'd feel lousy for about 3-4 hours (that's why they

> recommend it at night as you wouldn't know) but then you'll feel like " a

> million bucks " . So just take it whenever and endure. I don't think the

> exact timing is critical it's just some time if preferred over other

> times... good luck I'll be starting as soon as I get someone to prescribe

> it for me.

>

>

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I believe the reasons you take it at night are twofold: 1. it is blocking

endophin uptake so you don't " feel yourself " . 2. your pituitary and

adrenals make endorphins in greater supply in response, and this typically

takes place in the middle of the night. So based on your circadian

rhythem, that could be 2am or 2pm! depends on your schedule. Hope this

makes sense.

Phil

On Sat, 19 Apr 2003, LarryGC wrote:

> Does anyone know what Dr. Bihari says about this?

>

> Should we be taking LDN between 9pm and 3am regardless of the hours we live

on?

>

> I work 12-8, I sleep from 7-11PM, I was planning on taking it 6PM just before

> I'm ready to go to sleep, or maybe 5PM when I can get to sleep a bit earlier.

>

> Or should I be taking LDN at midnight, regardless of whether I'm going to

sleep

> at 1am (weekends/nights off), or just waking up to start " my day " ?

>

> I'm a bit confused about it now. I happen to be on day hours this week, so

I'm

> taking it between midnight and 3am when I get ready for sleep.

>

> I'm in NYC, but I have Russian blood... so 6PM NY time is 1AM in Minsk. Does

> that work?

>

> LDN doesn't " work while you sleep " ? It works based on the circadian rhythm of

> my day working neighbors regardless of the hours I keep???

>

>

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " G. Harding " <philh@...>

> " LarryGC " <larrygc@...>

> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 06:32

> Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Why is this night different from all other

> nights?

>

>

> > Larry,

> > I don't know if it matters, but the Penn State researcher told me " if you

> > can't take it at night (presumably due to insomnia) take it the next

> > morning " . He said I'd feel lousy for about 3-4 hours (that's why they

> > recommend it at night as you wouldn't know) but then you'll feel like " a

> > million bucks " . So just take it whenever and endure. I don't think the

> > exact timing is critical it's just some time if preferred over other

> > times... good luck I'll be starting as soon as I get someone to prescribe

> > it for me.

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi there,

In fact, I know exactly what Dr Bihari says about it, as I asked him the very same question. It is, in fact, based on the dawn cycle, NOT any other rhythm. Diurnal or nocturnal people should take it in the same time window. He says people who work the night shift generally take it at midnight.

Hope that helps.

All my best,

Rabbit

----- Original Message -----

From: G. Harding

LarryGC

Cc: LDN group

Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 7:42 AM

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] 9pm - 3am for everyone?

I believe the reasons you take it at night are twofold: 1. it is blockingendophin uptake so you don't "feel yourself". 2. your pituitary andadrenals make endorphins in greater supply in response, and this typicallytakes place in the middle of the night. So based on your circadianrhythem, that could be 2am or 2pm! depends on your schedule. Hope thismakes sense.PhilOn Sat, 19 Apr 2003, LarryGC wrote:> Does anyone know what Dr. Bihari says about this?>> Should we be taking LDN between 9pm and 3am regardless of the hours we live on?>> I work 12-8, I sleep from 7-11PM, I was planning on taking it 6PM just before> I'm ready to go to sleep, or maybe 5PM when I can get to sleep a bit earlier.>> Or should I be taking LDN at midnight, regardless of whether I'm going to sleep> at 1am (weekends/nights off), or just waking up to start "my day"?>> I'm a bit confused about it now. I happen to be on day hours this week, so I'm> taking it between midnight and 3am when I get ready for sleep.>> I'm in NYC, but I have Russian blood... so 6PM NY time is 1AM in Minsk. Does> that work?>> LDN doesn't "work while you sleep"? It works based on the circadian rhythm of> my day working neighbors regardless of the hours I keep???>>>>> ----- Original Message -----> From: " G. Harding" <philh@...>> "LarryGC" <larrygc@...>> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 06:32> Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Why is this night different from all other> nights?>>> > Larry,> > I don't know if it matters, but the Penn State researcher told me "if you> > can't take it at night (presumably due to insomnia) take it the next> > morning". He said I'd feel lousy for about 3-4 hours (that's why they> > recommend it at night as you wouldn't know) but then you'll feel like "a> > million bucks". So just take it whenever and endure. I don't think the> > exact timing is critical it's just some time if preferred over other> > times... good luck I'll be starting as soon as I get someone to prescribe> > it for me.> >> >>>>>>

[Guest guest]

So this 9pm to 3am has to do with the planetary rotation cycle, and not the individual's circadian rhythm cycle?

It just doesn't make sense to me.. I like to have things make sense.

A day person would be taking it at midnight and going to sleep.... when I go back to working 12-8am, I would be taking it when I wake up and have 19 hours ahead of me before I sleep again.

----- Original Message -----

From: Rabbit

LarryGC ; G. Harding

Cc: LDN group

Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 13:36

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] 9pm - 3am for everyone?

Hi there,

In fact, I know exactly what Dr Bihari says about it, as I asked him the very same question. It is, in fact, based on the dawn cycle, NOT any other rhythm. Diurnal or nocturnal people should take it in the same time window. He says people who work the night shift generally take it at midnight.

Hope that helps.

All my best,

Rabbit

----- Original Message -----

From: G. Harding

LarryGC

Cc: LDN group

Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 7:42 AM

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] 9pm - 3am for everyone?

I believe the reasons you take it at night are twofold: 1. it is blockingendophin uptake so you don't "feel yourself". 2. your pituitary andadrenals make endorphins in greater supply in response, and this typicallytakes place in the middle of the night. So based on your circadianrhythem, that could be 2am or 2pm! depends on your schedule. Hope thismakes sense.