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Sandy,

I have not realized I was supposed to have a

menu at the left. I don't have that either.

I use Netscape.

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> 1. Web Site (problem?)

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> 2. Re: Web Site (problem?)

> From: Pierre-Yves Dugua <dugua@...>

> 3. Re: Web Site (problem?)

> From: JanieLgo@...

> 4. Re: Web Site (problem?)

> From: Virri345@...

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> Message: 1

> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 09:01:16 -0700

> From: " SandyD " <sandy@...>

> Subject: Web Site (problem?)

>

> Dear Listers,

>

> I have had a report that some people are not able to see the menu bar

> on the left side of the .NET web page. Instead of seeing white

> letters on a brown " puzzle " background, some users are seeing the

> while letters on the pale yellow page background.

>

> Has anyone else experienced this problem? If you have, could you

> please let me know what browser and version you are using? I would

> really like to track this problem down!

>

> Thanks,

> Sandy

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> Message: 2

> Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 12:30:31 -0400

> From: Pierre-Yves Dugua <dugua@...>

> Subject: Re: Web Site (problem?)

>

> Yes Sandy ! I cant read the menu with my Netscape 3, regardless of the

> monitor I use (desktop or laptop) !

>

> Thanks !

> PY

>

> SandyD wrote:

> >

> > From: " SandyD " <sandy@...>

> >

> > Dear Listers,

> >

> > I have had a report that some people are not able to see the menu bar

> > on the left side of the .NET web page. Instead of seeing white

> > letters on a brown " puzzle " background, some users are seeing the

> > while letters on the pale yellow page background.

> >

> > Has anyone else experienced this problem? If you have, could you

> > please let me know what browser and version you are using? I would

> > really like to track this problem down!

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Sandy

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> > Did you know that

> > http://www.ONElist.com

> > More than 3.5 million people are using ONElist?

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> Message: 3

> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 17:55:10 EDT

> From: JanieLgo@...

> Subject: Re: Web Site (problem?)

>

> Sandy,

>

> I can see the puzzle piece background, although I am pretty computer

> illiterate and do not know what browser I am using. Probably Microsoft's

> exporer since I am using whatever comes with AOL 4.0

>

> Hope this helps.

>

> P.S. Do you know if there is any sattelite broadcast or way to participate

> in the conference if you cannot attend on the East Coast? I live in the Los

> Angeles area. Thanks

>

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> Message: 4

> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 23:31:02 EDT

> From: Virri345@...

> Subject: Re: Web Site (problem?)

>

> I am putting this question out: Has anyone ever encountered a child who at

> age 3 1/2 is still not toilet-trained (nor apparently really interested),

> little regard for privacy, verbal, temper tantrums, needs one-on-one, has

> been unaccepted to a nursery school or preschool arrangement and did not have

> autism? In the very least, has anyone encountered a child at that age who

> eventually was successfuly toilet trained but was not really found to be in

> any way developmentally delayed?

>

>

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In response to question re toilet training and issues . . .

As a Pediatrician, I would say years ago, there were children that fit into

the description given below, that could be described as immature, likely do

to " parenting / psychological dynamics, " BUT if that were the case, it was

" obvious " as a Pediatrician you otherwise had a very normal child (alert,

bright eyed, healthy, etc.) who was (for whatever the reasons) in a

" psychological " dysfunctional state. NOW, obviously this is describing a

child who frequently winds up " Autistic " , but which I will say likely has a

disease / medical problem (not that " healthy, bright eyed, normal appearing

child). One of the first " surprises " I encountered, was how as I would

start working with a child, faxes came back describing how the child had

suddenly toilet trained (after needless to say, many previously futile

attempts). I rapidly learned, that consistent with all my years of

pediatric training, when the brain (and body) reaches a certain level of

maturity (emotional and physical),a child will " toilet train. "

(Psychiatrists offices are filled with the results of misdirected forced

efforts on children). Part of " pediatric " advice for years, has been to let

the child set the pace / timing. As the brain matures (moves ahead),

these children " toilet train " like any other child :)

Take care,

MJG

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Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 23:31:02 EDT

From: Virri345@...

Subject: Re: Web Site (problem?)

I am putting this question out: Has anyone ever encountered a child who at

age 3 1/2 is still not toilet-trained (nor apparently really interested),

little regard for privacy, verbal, temper tantrums, needs one-on-one, has

been unaccepted to a nursery school or preschool arrangement and did not

have autism? In the very least, has anyone encountered a child at that age

who eventually was successfuly toilet trained but was not really found to be

in any way developmentally delayed?

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:o) I like the removable labels but find you do have to treat them with care.

I clean the surface with alcohol first to ensure a good stick and design my

labels to wraps around so it sticks back on itself.

This works well on my tubs for lip balm etc. My customers like it to because the

paper labels I use can get messy, when that happens they can just peel it off

with out the messy icky sticky stuff left behind!!

I can seem to get clear or shinny labels here :o(

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> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 10:07:32 EST

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> Subject: Re: Avery type labels

>

> I have Avery Kids' Printertainment, it is a kids' program, but it came with

> big & small re-stickable labels (which SUCK, BTW, they won't stay stuck on

> the bottles or shrinkwrap!). It has templates for #3113, 3112, (re-stickable

> rounds, and the permanent stick rounds which are a little smaller, and the

> stock number of which escapes me right now. It was only about $20, and it

> gives you other papers, cardstock, business cards, full sheet stickers, etc.

> to experiment on. It allows you to import art, which is good, because the

> art that comes with it is, well, mostly childish!

> The main problem I found is finding a local supplier of round labels. My DH

> solved that for me, though, for Christmas, he made me 10 log molds that hold

> 3-5 lbs. of soap each! I love this man!

> Anyway, hope you can find this program, it is easy to use, and CHEAP!

>

> HTH

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The only real way you will be able to prove or disprove the theory

of Vets being inoculated and getting HCV, would be to find a soldier(s)

who died before any other injuries, blood transfusions, tattoos, etc.,

and do a DNA test on the body. It may not be absolute proof, but, if the

HCV screen comes back positive and there is a viral load, it would go a

longer way towards making the connection.

You have to be hamped in trying to get this info because once you

prove there is a connection, (which I believe there is), the litigation

and responsibility will destroy many people in the government. ly,

the litigation alone would probably be enough to bankrupt the US, and

the resulting financial collapse would put us in a depression. Remember,

the parties responsible would go throughout all military, the Red Cross,

and, depending on how many major Universities were involved, would hit

them as well. Which ever drug manufacturer prepared the vaccine would

also have a liability, etc.

What I am not sure of is why no one has filed a class action suit to

explore this stuff. This will make HIV look like a picnic. I am sure the

evidence is out there is one were to look, and really want to find the

answer. Marty

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The only real way you will be able to prove or disprove the theory

of Vets being inoculated and getting HCV, would be to find a soldier(s)

who died before any other injuries, blood transfusions, tattoos, etc.,

and do a DNA test on the body. It may not be absolute proof, but, if the

HCV screen comes back positive and there is a viral load, it would go a

longer way towards making the connection.

You have to be hamped in trying to get this info because once you

prove there is a connection, (which I believe there is), the litigation

and responsibility will destroy many people in the government. ly,

the litigation alone would probably be enough to bankrupt the US, and

the resulting financial collapse would put us in a depression. Remember,

the parties responsible would go throughout all military, the Red Cross,

and, depending on how many major Universities were involved, would hit

them as well. Which ever drug manufacturer prepared the vaccine would

also have a liability, etc.

What I am not sure of is why no one has filed a class action suit to

explore this stuff. This will make HIV look like a picnic. I am sure the

evidence is out there is one were to look, and really want to find the

answer. Marty

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Dear :

It was only the sharing of needles, but it was the " snorting " of

coke and other drugs. They are very irritating to the nasal membrances

and frequently caused " nose bleeds " . If someone was infected and used

the same " straw " or similar instrument, they would have snorted up the

drug and any blood dropplets. Thus becoming infected.

There are still many issues we do not know. Sexual transmission has

not really been a factor, and that is unusual, especially during the 60s

and 70s. If it were simply circulating, as in HIV III, then exposure

should have showed up in any person who did not use protection. This is

not limited to homosexuals, but would include any anal sex of any type

between two people, oral sex should be a high transmission factor, etc.

Yet that is not the case. There are many unanswered issues and even

more questions to be asked. Marty

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Dear :

It was only the sharing of needles, but it was the " snorting " of

coke and other drugs. They are very irritating to the nasal membrances

and frequently caused " nose bleeds " . If someone was infected and used

the same " straw " or similar instrument, they would have snorted up the

drug and any blood dropplets. Thus becoming infected.

There are still many issues we do not know. Sexual transmission has

not really been a factor, and that is unusual, especially during the 60s

and 70s. If it were simply circulating, as in HIV III, then exposure

should have showed up in any person who did not use protection. This is

not limited to homosexuals, but would include any anal sex of any type

between two people, oral sex should be a high transmission factor, etc.

Yet that is not the case. There are many unanswered issues and even

more questions to be asked. Marty

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Corey- i think everyhepper C should take the Hep A & B vaccines. The

last thing your liver needs is another virus. I have had the vaccines

with no adverse effects. This was afetr a long tal with an hepatologist.

-Gay

" ...I dream then ask why not "

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well maybe start with why they discontinued use of the air guns for

vaccinations. known disease spreader

(re - vets w/hep from vaccines)

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We had ours mixed at a pharmacy that does compounding. The doctor gave us a

prescription for it. There are only a handful of pharmacies in our area that

do it.

M.

In a message dated 8/16/00 9:05:14 PM, egroups writes:

<< Bactroban, as far as I know, is not available as a nasal solution. It is

a very effective cream.

Len Leshin, M.D., F.A.A.P. >>

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Hi Kim,

I dont think any of s operations have been through the canal,she has scars running behind her ear. was much better for two days and not asking for medicine (paracetomal and ibuprofen).Today she has a bad cold ,and there is more discharge. I dont know if i should get her checked , or not.SHE IS DUE TO SEE THE DOCTOR ON THE 20TH, WHEN SHE SHOULD HAVE THE PACKING OUT, BUT WILL THEY DO IT IF SHE HAS ACOLD? I have tried to persuade her that she doesnt need to be put under for this ,but she insists, and she is so stoical usually that I accept it must hurt like hell.Thanks for the thing I will try.

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Much thanks to Joyce, Phil and Larry for thoughts on

exercise and taking LDN on nite shift.

I generally take it about midnite, tho don't sleep til

5am, or sometimes 8am, as I sometimes go running or to

my new pursuit yoga. And then fall soundly asleep.

Exercise has kept me looking young, (even for a 29yo!)

and more healthy looking than I really am, like Joyce,

which has it's minuses too, but I have tonnes of

energy to burn each day. But really, pumping the

endorphins has kept me in check with being single and

issues and progressive understandings around that over

the years, esp with being poz. The times I have

stopped for a month or two have been real down times

and times when I don't feel healthy in my mind or body

or heart.

With HIV I can't help but notice a lot of emotion to

say the least amongst the community, in terms of

feeling helpless against it's anticipated progression

and the social stigma and therefore fly into

relationships before it's too late and hope for the

best, and then accept the antivirals because they have

someone to care for them no matter how the drugs might

change them. I don't mean to generalize here or be

insensitive, but I guess I'm talking about fears here,

and I believe that LDN channels the brain in the other

direction, even more so if you are positive thinking

in the first place. I suppose depression is a burden

on the body too from my own experience. And because

LDN hasn't taken off like a rocket with the HIV

community, I wonder why, and I think it's people's

attitude towards healing themselves and believing in

that......................

I gave blood at two different clinics last week to

compare the variances, but won't have results til next

week. Doctors treat you with more respect I think if

you go in and talk about doing things to stay healthy.

But they wouldn't do an endorphin or the alpha test

because they are too expensive even tho that's where

the differences are with LDN from what I've read.

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Hi there ,

You say that the LDN has not taken off in the HIV community. Has it even

been brought up? How did you discover it? I can only assume that it is the

same situation that occurs for us with MS. We go to the doc and he pooh

poohs the whole LDN thing. Many people then feel it is a quack thing cuz

they are listening to only what their docs say. A shame really. I'm sure

that is what is happening with all that look to have this prescribed. I can

still remember when I first heard of it. I was so excited..thought my neuro

would be too.....WRONG!!!..lol. He totally dismissed it and it I would not

have been so assertive, I'd be on one of the ABC drugs for ms right

now...not such a good thing, let me tell you. Well keep up the good fight

. Joyce.

>From: paul stanley <paulyboystanley@...>

>low dose naltrexone

>Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Digest Number 32

>Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 15:08:11 +1000 (EST)

>

>Much thanks to Joyce, Phil and Larry for thoughts on

>exercise and taking LDN on nite shift.

>I generally take it about midnite, tho don't sleep til

>5am, or sometimes 8am, as I sometimes go running or to

>my new pursuit yoga. And then fall soundly asleep.

>Exercise has kept me looking young, (even for a 29yo!)

>and more healthy looking than I really am, like Joyce,

>which has it's minuses too, but I have tonnes of

>energy to burn each day. But really, pumping the

>endorphins has kept me in check with being single and

>issues and progressive understandings around that over

>the years, esp with being poz. The times I have

>stopped for a month or two have been real down times

>and times when I don't feel healthy in my mind or body

>or heart.

>With HIV I can't help but notice a lot of emotion to

>say the least amongst the community, in terms of

>feeling helpless against it's anticipated progression

>and the social stigma and therefore fly into

>relationships before it's too late and hope for the

>best, and then accept the antivirals because they have

>someone to care for them no matter how the drugs might

>change them. I don't mean to generalize here or be

>insensitive, but I guess I'm talking about fears here,

>and I believe that LDN channels the brain in the other

>direction, even more so if you are positive thinking

>in the first place. I suppose depression is a burden

>on the body too from my own experience. And because

>LDN hasn't taken off like a rocket with the HIV

>community, I wonder why, and I think it's people's

>attitude towards healing themselves and believing in

>that......................

>

>I gave blood at two different clinics last week to

>compare the variances, but won't have results til next

>week. Doctors treat you with more respect I think if

>you go in and talk about doing things to stay healthy.

>But they wouldn't do an endorphin or the alpha test

>because they are too expensive even tho that's where

>the differences are with LDN from what I've read.

>

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Hi everyone,

I was diagnosed with relapsing remitting MS 12 years but my neuro now tells

me its secondary progressive. I have been waiting for the Beta Inteferon

drugs to become available in the vain hope that they may just halt the

progression but according to my neuro I may not fit the criteria. If there

is a chance that LDN may have a similar effect or just help with some of the

weird symptons that we all seem to suffer from then I would like to give it

a shot. My neuro wasn't interested when I raised it at my last visit but I

have an appointment with my GP this Friday to see if I can persuade him to

prescribe it on a private prescription. If I am unsuccessful how do I get

hold of it? I know there are people in the UK taking it and I would like to

hear from anyone who can point me in the right direction before I

deteriorate too much further.

Sue

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From: " wkendz 32 " <wkendz32@...>

<paulyboystanley@...>

Cc: <low dose naltrexone >

Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 4:22 PM

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Digest Number 32

> Hi there ,

> You say that the LDN has not taken off in the HIV community. Has it even

> been brought up? How did you discover it? I can only assume that it is the

> same situation that occurs for us with MS. We go to the doc and he pooh

> poohs the whole LDN thing. Many people then feel it is a quack thing cuz

> they are listening to only what their docs say. A shame really. I'm sure

> that is what is happening with all that look to have this prescribed. I

can

> still remember when I first heard of it. I was so excited..thought my

neuro

> would be too.....WRONG!!!..lol. He totally dismissed it and it I would not

> have been so assertive, I'd be on one of the ABC drugs for ms right

> now...not such a good thing, let me tell you. Well keep up the good fight

> . Joyce.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >From: paul stanley <paulyboystanley@...>

> >low dose naltrexone

> >Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Digest Number 32

> >Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 15:08:11 +1000 (EST)

> >

> >Much thanks to Joyce, Phil and Larry for thoughts on

> >exercise and taking LDN on nite shift.

> >I generally take it about midnite, tho don't sleep til

> >5am, or sometimes 8am, as I sometimes go running or to

> >my new pursuit yoga. And then fall soundly asleep.

> >Exercise has kept me looking young, (even for a 29yo!)

> >and more healthy looking than I really am, like Joyce,

> >which has it's minuses too, but I have tonnes of

> >energy to burn each day. But really, pumping the

> >endorphins has kept me in check with being single and

> >issues and progressive understandings around that over

> >the years, esp with being poz. The times I have

> >stopped for a month or two have been real down times

> >and times when I don't feel healthy in my mind or body

> >or heart.

> >With HIV I can't help but notice a lot of emotion to

> >say the least amongst the community, in terms of

> >feeling helpless against it's anticipated progression

> >and the social stigma and therefore fly into

> >relationships before it's too late and hope for the

> >best, and then accept the antivirals because they have

> >someone to care for them no matter how the drugs might

> >change them. I don't mean to generalize here or be

> >insensitive, but I guess I'm talking about fears here,

> >and I believe that LDN channels the brain in the other

> >direction, even more so if you are positive thinking

> >in the first place. I suppose depression is a burden

> >on the body too from my own experience. And because

> >LDN hasn't taken off like a rocket with the HIV

> >community, I wonder why, and I think it's people's

> >attitude towards healing themselves and believing in

> >that......................

> >

> >I gave blood at two different clinics last week to

> >compare the variances, but won't have results til next

> >week. Doctors treat you with more respect I think if

> >you go in and talk about doing things to stay healthy.

> >But they wouldn't do an endorphin or the alpha test

> >because they are too expensive even tho that's where

> >the differences are with LDN from what I've read.

> >

> >http://mobile..au - Mobile

> >- Check & compose your email via SMS on your Telstra or Vodafone mobile.

>

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Sue,

I had the same experience with my neuro and my GP wasn't comfortable

prescribing a drug he had no experience with. So if you contact me

directly I can give you the name/number of a physician in burg, PA

who will prescribe it for you. He also has a pharmacy source to ship it to

you. He charges $4/minute for the phone consultation (mine was 22

minutes), and 100 days of a 3 mg/day dose in capsules, cost me $121 plus

shipping. If all this sounds good, email me at philh@.... I was

thankful after trying different leads for an MD prescription for weeks.

This drug in higher doses is FDA-approved, used in emergency rooms all the

time (for overdoses of street drugs) and is used to treat both alcoholics

and addicts. It should be a lot simpler to try this for MS at much lower

doses as people have had good results. Contact me directly for his #.

On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, Sue Goose wrote:

> Hi everyone,

>

> I was diagnosed with relapsing remitting MS 12 years but my neuro now tells

> me its secondary progressive. I have been waiting for the Beta Inteferon

> drugs to become available in the vain hope that they may just halt the

> progression but according to my neuro I may not fit the criteria. If there

> is a chance that LDN may have a similar effect or just help with some of the

> weird symptons that we all seem to suffer from then I would like to give it

> a shot. My neuro wasn't interested when I raised it at my last visit but I

> have an appointment with my GP this Friday to see if I can persuade him to

> prescribe it on a private prescription. If I am unsuccessful how do I get

> hold of it? I know there are people in the UK taking it and I would like to

> hear from anyone who can point me in the right direction before I

> deteriorate too much further.

>

> Sue

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " wkendz 32 " <wkendz32@...>

> <paulyboystanley@...>

> Cc: <low dose naltrexone >

> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 4:22 PM

> Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Digest Number 32

>

>

> > Hi there ,

> > You say that the LDN has not taken off in the HIV community. Has it even

> > been brought up? How did you discover it? I can only assume that it is the

> > same situation that occurs for us with MS. We go to the doc and he pooh

> > poohs the whole LDN thing. Many people then feel it is a quack thing cuz

> > they are listening to only what their docs say. A shame really. I'm sure

> > that is what is happening with all that look to have this prescribed. I

> can

> > still remember when I first heard of it. I was so excited..thought my

> neuro

> > would be too.....WRONG!!!..lol. He totally dismissed it and it I would not

> > have been so assertive, I'd be on one of the ABC drugs for ms right

> > now...not such a good thing, let me tell you. Well keep up the good fight

> > . Joyce.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >From: paul stanley <paulyboystanley@...>

> > >low dose naltrexone

> > >Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Digest Number 32

> > >Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 15:08:11 +1000 (EST)

> > >

> > >Much thanks to Joyce, Phil and Larry for thoughts on

> > >exercise and taking LDN on nite shift.

> > >I generally take it about midnite, tho don't sleep til

> > >5am, or sometimes 8am, as I sometimes go running or to

> > >my new pursuit yoga. And then fall soundly asleep.

> > >Exercise has kept me looking young, (even for a 29yo!)

> > >and more healthy looking than I really am, like Joyce,

> > >which has it's minuses too, but I have tonnes of

> > >energy to burn each day. But really, pumping the

> > >endorphins has kept me in check with being single and

> > >issues and progressive understandings around that over

> > >the years, esp with being poz. The times I have

> > >stopped for a month or two have been real down times

> > >and times when I don't feel healthy in my mind or body

> > >or heart.

> > >With HIV I can't help but notice a lot of emotion to

> > >say the least amongst the community, in terms of

> > >feeling helpless against it's anticipated progression

> > >and the social stigma and therefore fly into

> > >relationships before it's too late and hope for the

> > >best, and then accept the antivirals because they have

> > >someone to care for them no matter how the drugs might

> > >change them. I don't mean to generalize here or be

> > >insensitive, but I guess I'm talking about fears here,

> > >and I believe that LDN channels the brain in the other

> > >direction, even more so if you are positive thinking

> > >in the first place. I suppose depression is a burden

> > >on the body too from my own experience. And because

> > >LDN hasn't taken off like a rocket with the HIV

> > >community, I wonder why, and I think it's people's

> > >attitude towards healing themselves and believing in

> > >that......................

> > >

> > >I gave blood at two different clinics last week to

> > >compare the variances, but won't have results til next

> > >week. Doctors treat you with more respect I think if

> > >you go in and talk about doing things to stay healthy.

> > >But they wouldn't do an endorphin or the alpha test

> > >because they are too expensive even tho that's where

> > >the differences are with LDN from what I've read.

> > >

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I use The Medicine Shoppe in Boones Mill, Va and they ship me a 90 day

supply for $60.00. They've been compounding for me for 3 years now and

are just great to work with and very reliable. Other than buying my

meds there, I have no connection with them, just thought you might want

a less expensive option.

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" G. Harding " wrote:

>

> Sue,

> I had the same experience with my neuro and my GP wasn't comfortable

> prescribing a drug he had no experience with. So if you contact me

> directly I can give you the name/number of a physician in burg,

> PA

> who will prescribe it for you. He also has a pharmacy source to ship

> it to

> you. He charges $4/minute for the phone consultation (mine was 22

> minutes), and 100 days of a 3 mg/day dose in capsules, cost me $121

> plus

> shipping. If all this sounds good, email me at philh@.... I was

> thankful after trying different leads for an MD prescription for

> weeks.

> This drug in higher doses is FDA-approved, used in emergency rooms all

> the

> time (for overdoses of street drugs) and is used to treat both

> alcoholics

> and addicts. It should be a lot simpler to try this for MS at much

> lower

> doses as people have had good results. Contact me directly for his #.

>

> On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, Sue Goose wrote:

>

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > I was diagnosed with relapsing remitting MS 12 years but my neuro

> now tells

> > me its secondary progressive. I have been waiting for the Beta

> Inteferon

> > drugs to become available in the vain hope that they may just halt

> the

> > progression but according to my neuro I may not fit the criteria.

> If there

> > is a chance that LDN may have a similar effect or just help with

> some of the

> > weird symptons that we all seem to suffer from then I would like to

> give it

> > a shot. My neuro wasn't interested when I raised it at my last

> visit but I

> > have an appointment with my GP this Friday to see if I can persuade

> him to

> > prescribe it on a private prescription. If I am unsuccessful how do

> I get

> > hold of it? I know there are people in the UK taking it and I would

> like to

> > hear from anyone who can point me in the right direction before I

> > deteriorate too much further.

> >

> > Sue

> >

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: " wkendz 32 " <wkendz32@...>

> > <paulyboystanley@...>

> > Cc: <low dose naltrexone >

> > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 4:22 PM

> > Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Digest Number 32

> >

> >

> > > Hi there ,

> > > You say that the LDN has not taken off in the HIV community. Has

> it even

> > > been brought up? How did you discover it? I can only assume that

> it is the

> > > same situation that occurs for us with MS. We go to the doc and he

> pooh

> > > poohs the whole LDN thing. Many people then feel it is a quack

> thing cuz

> > > they are listening to only what their docs say. A shame really.

> I'm sure

> > > that is what is happening with all that look to have this

> prescribed. I

> > can

> > > still remember when I first heard of it. I was so excited..thought

> my

> > neuro

> > > would be too.....WRONG!!!..lol. He totally dismissed it and it I

> would not

> > > have been so assertive, I'd be on one of the ABC drugs for ms

> right

> > > now...not such a good thing, let me tell you. Well keep up the

> good fight

> > > . Joyce.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >From: paul stanley <paulyboystanley@...>

> > > >low dose naltrexone

> > > >Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Digest Number 32

> > > >Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 15:08:11 +1000 (EST)

> > > >

> > > >Much thanks to Joyce, Phil and Larry for thoughts on

> > > >exercise and taking LDN on nite shift.

> > > >I generally take it about midnite, tho don't sleep til

> > > >5am, or sometimes 8am, as I sometimes go running or to

> > > >my new pursuit yoga. And then fall soundly asleep.

> > > >Exercise has kept me looking young, (even for a 29yo!)

> > > >and more healthy looking than I really am, like Joyce,

> > > >which has it's minuses too, but I have tonnes of

> > > >energy to burn each day. But really, pumping the

> > > >endorphins has kept me in check with being single and

> > > >issues and progressive understandings around that over

> > > >the years, esp with being poz. The times I have

> > > >stopped for a month or two have been real down times

> > > >and times when I don't feel healthy in my mind or body

> > > >or heart.

> > > >With HIV I can't help but notice a lot of emotion to

> > > >say the least amongst the community, in terms of

> > > >feeling helpless against it's anticipated progression

> > > >and the social stigma and therefore fly into

> > > >relationships before it's too late and hope for the

> > > >best, and then accept the antivirals because they have

> > > >someone to care for them no matter how the drugs might

> > > >change them. I don't mean to generalize here or be

> > > >insensitive, but I guess I'm talking about fears here,

> > > >and I believe that LDN channels the brain in the other

> > > >direction, even more so if you are positive thinking

> > > >in the first place. I suppose depression is a burden

> > > >on the body too from my own experience. And because

> > > >LDN hasn't taken off like a rocket with the HIV

> > > >community, I wonder why, and I think it's people's

> > > >attitude towards healing themselves and believing in

> > > >that......................

> > > >

> > > >I gave blood at two different clinics last week to

> > > >compare the variances, but won't have results til next

> > > >week. Doctors treat you with more respect I think if

> > > >you go in and talk about doing things to stay healthy.

> > > >But they wouldn't do an endorphin or the alpha test

> > > >because they are too expensive even tho that's where

> > > >the differences are with LDN from what I've read.

> > > >

> > > >http://mobile..au - Mobile

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In a message dated 9/6/2004 5:23:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, writes:

Where is the "Inland Empire Meeting?"I live in New York (the Empire State) and was wondering if we're close by? (Of course, you could be on the other side of the country or the world! lol)stown, NY

Hi : Yep, we are on the other side of the country! Inland Empire is so named because we are INLAND from LA and Orange Counties in Southern California. But, you are welcome to fly out for the meeting anytime!!! Have a great day.

Libbi237/224/135DOB 8/21/04Dr. Kuri

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Hi : I have a story for you. This woman found a very wise guru and asked him which direction she should go in her life. He pointed in a direction and she went that way, wanting more than anything to be doing right in her life. Well the way became dark and scary and full of terrible hazards. She fell down and hurt herself really bad. It rained and she was filthy, and hungry and cold. Finally she realized she must have taken a wrong turn and she turned around and found her way back to the guru. Again, she asked which direction she should go in her life journey and again he pointed and again she went off in that direction. Well, things went no better this time. She crawled back to the guru again. This time she complained to him about how terrible it was out there, through her tears. She begged him to tell her which way to go in her life, but to please be more more careful about his advice, because she didn't think she cound take another mistake. He smiled softly at her and said: there has been no mistake. Each time you have been only minutes from the getting through the hard part, but each time you instead turned around and went back through all the hardships all over again. This time persevere and you will reach the other side of your tribulations and the life you have been aching to live.

So, do anything but eat that sugar and those cravings will go away. They will shrivel up and die. Sugar most definitly can be an addiction, I do not care what anyone says. About day three is usally the worst day for the cravings and if you get through that the strong cravings start to dimish. Urges come, but knowledge of how terrible those cravings are should keep you from giving in to the urges. Hope this helps

In a message dated 9/6/2004 5:23:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, writes:

But, when it come to sugar, I'm ok for a few days then, I find myself literally digging through the cabinets, usually at night but not always. It just seems so irrational. I've always been a rational, well grounded person, strong person. What can I do to kick this awful habit/addiction? G.Dr. Montgomery6/3/04260/239/140

Libbi237/224/135DOB 8/21/04Dr. Kuri

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