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Steve you are doing an incredible job and congratulatons. I follow

the same program as you do as I've never counted calories, but eaten

all the low calorie, high nutritional recepies from various sources

that I want. I also purchased some sucralose, guar gum, kefir

grains and have toyed with some of the deserts which satisfy that

sweet tooth from time to time. I also enjoy " regular " meals when I

eat out or go to someones house or tailgating before a Titans game.

My weight has stayed in the 158-165 range for about 18 months now.

(I weighed as much as 200 previously on a 5'9 " frame) I continue to

engage in running, moderate weight lifting and in-line skating on a

regular basis with the occasional downhill sking trip and hikes

thrown in. This works for me and I feel great. The two of us show

that remarkable gains can be made by simply eating the right foods

in moderation without the neurotic calorie counting, nutritent

tracking obsession that seem to rule some CRONies lives and

predisposes them to think about their diets 24/7. Of course, that's

their right but I firmly believe CRON would have a larger appeal if

it's participants weren't usually perceived as a collection of odd,

cultish, rigid, anal, emaciated geeks.

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At 9:54 -0800 11/10/02, Leisa Hiatt wrote:

> > Of course, that's

>>their right but I firmly believe CRON would have a larger appeal if

>>it's participants weren't usually perceived as a collection of odd,

>>cultish, rigid, anal, emaciated geeks.

>

>

>

>YEWOUCH!! Don't think of myself in those terms here (or most

>cronies for that matter). Everyone has a different level obsessive

>extremes to which they practice CRON with some not being obsessive

>at all. Which always brings us to the ultimate question....what is

>normal?

I guess I'm abnormal where I work -- having switched from a typical

lunch based on white pasta and cheese, to a lunch of primarily soup &

salad. Many of my burgers & fries co-workers see me as some kind of

" space alien " with regard to my current diet. One said, " If I had to

live off shoots and roots all my life, I'd probably just end it all. "

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Mike: as we say in the description on the home page: " CRON need not be

complex or extreme to achieve better health........ "

on 11/10/2002 6:52 AM, Mike Harkreader at titanmeister@... wrote:

> Of course, that's

> their right but I firmly believe CRON would have a larger appeal if

> it's participants weren't usually perceived as a collection of odd,

> cultish, rigid, anal, emaciated geeks.

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Hi Everyone!

Thanks for all the posts about your experiences with LDN!

I started taking it 1 month ago (March 10th) at the 4.5mg dosage. I

have experienced 4 benefits so far: I sleep more deeply and wake up

more rested, I have improved energy and interest in doing things, an

increasingly difficult problem with constipation has corrected

itself, and the apparent start of a " flare-up " with severe dizziness,

imbalance and fatigue was " derailed " in 24 hours!

I still feel like I have MS...I just have a " normal " feeling that is

hard to describe which I didn't have before. I am very pleased! And

though " symptom relief " is not a claim of LDN, and even if

these " benefits " only last a few months, my main hope is to stop the

progression of my secondary-progressive MS. That will take a while

to access, as it has been progressing slowly, even while on Copaxone

for 2.5 years. I quit Copaxone in January before I found out about

LDN because I felt the effectiveness was low and the cost was very

high! I will report here if I find that I still progress while on

LDN. However, I am optimistic that I will not.

I printed off some information from the LDN.org website and took it

to my MS support group yesterday. I included some of the posts from

this discussion group for them read (I hope that is ok with

everyone). None of the support group members had heard of LDN and

were very interested! I suspect word will spread quickly as more and

more folks start using it.

My prayers and best wishes are with you all!

Sue

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