Guest guest Posted June 30, 2003 Report Share Posted June 30, 2003 Interesting. I've read somewhere that mercury doesn't necessarily show up in the blood unless in acute toxicity situations. Instead, it is possible the mercury is sequestered in tissues where it exerts its toxic effects and that serum Hg levels don't correlate well with tissue Hg levels. Additionally, I just got back to my dentist today and asked him about the ceramic fillings. He told me that they contain aluminum and he wouldn't use them on his patients. How annoying is that? - Christian Dr. Sullivan who prescribed LDN for me two months ago had me take a Heavy Metals Toxicity test using cupramine as a sensitizing agent. The results came back two weeks ago -- all levels normal. So before going thru major dental surgery and having them all removed (which btw, he did mention would greatly increase my exposure to Hg), I'd take the test to see if the levels are elevated. He also said that as a group, dentists who work with amalgams everyday in volatile form are exposed to much higher amounts of Hg and don't experience elevated levels in their blood. (there have been some major studies around this issue). It's probably a good idea to go with the newer ceramic (?) white fillings from here on in, but I think unnecessary assaults on the body can cause greater harm than benefit. IMHO. phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2003 Report Share Posted June 30, 2003 I had my amalgam fillings removed about 15 to 20 years ago. I do beleive that it was done properly. i saw absolutely no difference after doing it. From what i am reading now that it is not enough to have the fillings removed but you need to detox yourself of the mercury afterwards. that mercury will not just eliminate from your body by itself. Did you do this? Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: ; LDN Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 10:11 AM Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Mercury poisoning Hi-- I have been doing a lot of reading about mercury amalgam fillings (the ones the dentist calls "silver" amalgam, which actually contain 50% mercury, one of the most toxic metals there is.) When I read your post, I noticed that two symtoms you mention--insomnia and low body temperature--happen to be symptoms of elevated mercury levels. I mention this because I have read that some people who have MS have benefitted from having their mercury fillings removed--but ONLY when it is done by a dentist who has been trained in the proper removal techniques. I just had all of my fillings removed as a step in healing my Nonhodgkins Lymphoma. The dentist I went to told me that several of her patients had the procedure done to help their MS. (I asked about this because I have a brother with primary progressive MS who does not have the time or stomach to research for himself. ) I have given the dentist permission to release my name to any MS patients she has had, so they can contact me to tell me of their experiences. I'll let everyone know what I hear. Meanwhile, does anyone have any thoughts on this subject?? Regards, S. Well.. .from DAY ONE my wife said I was sleeping a lot more peacefully than ever before, and she knows me 22 years. ****** Did I ask you guys about your body temperature? Anyone take theirs before LDN and monitor it since? I have to go take my temperature again... it seems to be running 98.4 to 98.8 nowadays. For the last 4 decades, well, 3 actually, it's been 96.2-97.6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2003 Report Share Posted June 30, 2003 Dr. Sullivan who prescribed LDN for me two months ago had me take a Heavy Metals Toxicity test using cupramine as a sensitizing agent. The results came back two weeks ago -- all levels normal. So before going thru major dental surgery and having them all removed (which btw, he did mention would greatly increase my exposure to Hg), I'd take the test to see if the levels are elevated. He also said that as a group, dentists who work with amalgams everyday in volatile form are exposed to much higher amounts of Hg and don't experience elevated levels in their blood. (there have been some major studies around this issue). It's probably a good idea to go with the newer ceramic (?) white fillings from here on in, but I think unnecessary assaults on the body can cause greater harm than benefit. IMHO. phil On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, wrote: > Hi-- > > I have been doing a lot of reading about mercury amalgam fillings (the > ones the dentist calls " silver " amalgam, which actually contain 50% > mercury, one of the most toxic metals there is.) > > When I read your post, I noticed that two symtoms you mention--insomnia > and low body temperature--happen to be symptoms of elevated mercury > levels. I mention this because I have read that some people who have MS > have benefitted from having their mercury fillings removed--but ONLY > when it is done by a dentist who has been trained in the proper removal > techniques. > > I just had all of my fillings removed as a step in healing my > Nonhodgkins Lymphoma. The dentist I went to told me that several of her > patients had the procedure done to help their MS. (I asked about this > because I have a brother with primary progressive MS who does not have > the time or stomach to research for himself. ) > > I have given the dentist permission to release my name to any MS > patients she has had, so they can contact me to tell me of their > experiences. I'll let everyone know what I hear. Meanwhile, does > anyone have any thoughts on this subject?? > > Regards, > S. > > > > Well.. .from DAY ONE my wife said I > > was sleeping a lot more peacefully than ever before, and she > > knows me 22 years. > > > > ****** > > > > Did I ask you guys about your body temperature? Anyone take > > theirs before LDN > > and monitor it since? I have to go take my temperature > > again... it seems to be > > running 98.4 to 98.8 nowadays. For the last 4 decades, > > well, 3 actually, it's > > been 96.2-97.6. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2003 Report Share Posted June 30, 2003 my test was with urine collection, 24 hours, with cupramine as a coaxing agent. Sullivan has done tests on 100's of patients and is convinced if there is elevated levels it will show up this way... PS Yeah aluminum is linked to Alheimer's -- so not a good altrnative. On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 Fromtl@... wrote: > Interesting. I've read somewhere that mercury doesn't necessarily show up in > the blood unless in acute toxicity situations. Instead, it is possible the > mercury is sequestered in tissues where it exerts its toxic effects and that > serum Hg levels don't correlate well with tissue Hg levels. > Additionally, I just got back to my dentist today and asked him about > the ceramic fillings. He told me that they contain aluminum and he wouldn't > use them on his patients. How annoying is that? - Christian > > > > Dr. Sullivan who prescribed LDN for me two months ago had me take a Heavy > > Metals Toxicity test using cupramine as a sensitizing agent. The results > > came back two weeks ago -- all levels normal. So before going thru major > > dental surgery and having them all removed (which btw, he did mention > > would greatly increase my exposure to Hg), I'd take the test to see if the > > levels are elevated. He also said that as a group, dentists who work with > > amalgams everyday in volatile form are exposed to much higher amounts of > > Hg and don't experience elevated levels in their blood. (there have been > > some major studies around this issue). > > It's probably a good idea to go with the newer ceramic (?) white fillings > > from here on in, but I think unnecessary assaults on the body can cause > > greater harm than benefit. IMHO. phil > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2003 Report Share Posted July 1, 2003 Christian-- So what is your dentist using? Amalgam?? That is composed of 50% mercury, along with some other toxic metals. In comparison, there is nothing you could tell me about ceramics that would worry me. I wonder why your dentist didn't tell you about other filling materials? There are other choices. And heh--if mercury is so safe when it is bound up with other metals, why in the world should aluminum in ceramics cause a problem? S. Fromtl@... wrote: Interesting. I've read somewhere that mercury doesn't necessarily show up in the blood unless in acute toxicity situations. Instead, it is possible the mercury is sequestered in tissues where it exerts its toxic effects and that serum Hg levels don't correlate well with tissue Hg levels. Additionally, I just got back to my dentist today and asked him about the ceramic fillings. He told me that they contain aluminum and he wouldn't use them on his patients. How annoying is that? - Christian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2003 Report Share Posted July 1, 2003 If mercury in amalgam ISN'T dangerous, why is there so much recent legislation regarding its use? Legislation (by state) Bills, Actions and Ordinances (passed and/or introduced) AlabamaRep. Alabama House of Representatives Montgomery is reintroducing a Bill to abolish mercury dental fillings for children and pregnant women ArizonaIf passed, S.B. 1146 sponsored by Rep. & Rep. Hershberger would require informed consent for mercury fillings for children, pregnant women, and nursing mothers. S.B. 1146: Write Your Arizona Representatives Dear Arizonans... (pdf file) California Mercury in Dental Filling Disclosure and Prohibition Act (Introduced in House) - April 8, 2003 California Dental Board To Vote On Mercury Fillings Fact Sheet Landslide Vote by California Assembly Could End System Forcing Low-Income Children To Have Mercury Fillings California Judge Approves Landmark Warning on Mercury Use in Dentistry(San Francisco, Notice to Patients, Proposition 65, January, 2003 AB #2270 amended in Assembly - April 9, 2002 Introduced by Rep. Dickerson on Feb. 20, 2002 would prohibit a dentist on and after Jan. 1, 2007 from providing a patient with a dental filling that contains mercury. Governor signs bills to prohibit against Mercury contamination, Oct. 10, 2001. State Dental Board Officer Picketed in Beverly Hills, Asked to Resign: Dentist Leads fight to cover-Up Mercury in Fillings. CD Dental Board Backs Down, Vocal Protests - A Movie Action film Administration Intercedes: Schedules Meeting with Anti-Mercury Consumers After Dental Board Cancels Meeting Consumers. CDC's Petition Forces California Dental Board to Abandon Voting on Materials Fact Sheet, Charlie Brown 7/23/2001 Governor appoints mercury-free dentist Chet Yokoyama to the California Dental Board, Charlie Brown 3/22/2001 IowaGag Rule Unconstitutional, Says Attorney General of Iowa"Dentists do have a free speech right to voice a personal opinion and to in good faith counsel patients free of unwarranted government intervention." Maine Maine Governor Signs Bills to Protect Health, Reduce Pollution(NCRM Press Release 5/29/03) Beginning July 1, 2002, a dentist who uses mercury or a mercury amalgam in any dental procedure shall display the poster adopted by the Department of Human Services, Bureau of Health under this section in the public waiting area of that dentist's office and must provide each patient with a copy of the brochure adopted by the bureau under this section. New HampshireHB #1251 - Sponsored by Rep. Lynde. As Amended By the Senate. This bill requires dentists and the department of health and human services to provide information on restorative dental materials, and requires the department of environmental services to adopt rules for the disposal of mercury amalgam waste in an environmentally- appropriate manner. New YorkChapter 506, Laws of New York, 2002 An Act to amend the environmental conservation law, in relation to the use and recycling of elemental mercury and dental amalgam by dentists became a law September 17, 2002, with the approval of the Governor. Passed by a majority vote, three-fifths being present. The People of the State of New York, represented in Senate and Assembly, do enact as follows: Section 1. The environmental conservation law is amended by adding a new section 27-0926 to read as follows: § 27-0926. Use and recycling of elemental mercury and dental amalgam by dentists. 1. No dentist shall use or possess elemental mercury in the practice of dentistry unless such elemental mercury is contained in appropriate pre-encapsulated capsules specifically designed for the mixing of dental amalgam. All dentists shall recycle any elemental mercury, including any pre-encapsulated mercury capsule waste, and dental amalgam waste generated in their dental practices in accordance with rules and regulations established by the commissioner. 2. The commissioner is hereby authorized and directed to promulgate rules and regulations necessary for the implementation of this section. § 2. This act shall take effect on the one hundred eightieth day after it shall have become a law, provided, however, that effective immediately, the addition, amendment and/or repeal of any rules or regulations necessary for the implementation of this act on its effective date is authorized and directed to be made and completed on or before such effective date. OhioBill LSC 124 1555 to enact section 4715.191 of the Revised code to establish restrictions on the use of mercury and mercury amalgam fillings in dentistry for individuals 18 and younger, a woman 45 years of age or younger, a pregnant woman and requiring informed consent. OregonBill for Informed consent and Limitations on use of Amalgam, Draft Bill 11/11/2002. Relating to the practice of dentistry; adoption of new provisions in ORS Chapter 679. A dentist shall obtain a written Informed Consent from each patient prior to any dental procedure and/or treatment which includes the use of any dental restorative materials containing mercury. WashingtonResponse to WSDA testimony at Washington State Senate's Health & Long Term Care Committee on SB 5066 January 30, 2003. LEGISLATIVE ACTIVITY Connecticut Connecticut passed legislation in the 2002 session addressing mercury and dental amalgam. PA 02-90 bans, as of July 1, 2003, the use of mercury amalgam by vocational dental education or training schools unless the school has developed and implemented a DEP-approved plan to use best management practices to prevent improper discharges and to properly handle, recycle, or dispose of waste elemental mercury and amalgam. Such a plan also must teach students about mercury hazards and best management practices. PA 02-90 also requires anyone who offers for sale, distributes for promotional purposes, or provides elemental mercury to a dental practitioner to provide a federally prescribed Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS). Starting July 1, 2003, such practitioners must (1) use the mercury only for dental purposes; (2) store, use, and handle exposure to such mercury according to ADA guidelines, state and federal law, and any applicable best management practices the state adopts; and (3) dispose of the elemental mercury according to state and federal law. New Hampshire The New Hampshire Legislature passed legislation this session that requires dentists to notify patients about the risks and benefits of different restoratives, and discuss restorative treatment choices. It also requires the environmental services department to adopt rules for disposal of mercury amalgam in an environmentally appropriate manner (Chapter 96, HB1251; and Chapter 240, HB1413 attached). California Legislation was considered in California in 2002, but did not pass, that would have phased out the use of dental amalgam. The bill, AB 2270, would have prevented dentists, beginning January 1, 2007, from providing a patient with a dental filling containing mercury. It also would have required dentists to provide patients with a written disclosure up until the time of the ban that reads: "this dental amalgam contains approximately 50% mercury, a highly toxic element, and therefore poses health risks. This product should not be administered to children less than 18 years of age, pregnant women, or lactating women. " Federal Activity Proposed federal legislation (HR 4163) is similar to the California bill in that it would ban amalgam fillings across the country by 2007. U. S. Reps. Diane of California and Dan Burton of Indiana introduced the bill on April 10, 2002. The bill would prohibit after 2006 the introduction into interstate commerce of mercury intended for use in dental fillings. The American Dental Association opposes the bill. On February 20 of this year, the FDA proposed new packaging and labeling guidance for manufacturers and other changes in the regulation of dental amalgam and related products. These regulations, supported by the ADA, would establish a classification scheme for dental amalgam products, including a separate classification regulation for encapsulated amalgams as well as the application of class II special controls to all three dental amalgam products to provide reasonable assurance of safety and effectiveness. [] -----Original Message-----From: [mailto:ebaker@...]Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 9:53 AMLDNSubject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Mercury poisoning Christian-- So what is your dentist using? Amalgam?? That is composed of 50% mercury, along with some other toxic metals. In comparison, there is nothing you could tell me about ceramics that would worry me. I wonder why your dentist didn't tell you about other filling materials? There are other choices. And heh--if mercury is so safe when it is bound up with other metals, why in the world should aluminum in ceramics cause a problem? S. Fromtl@... wrote: Interesting. I've read somewhere that mercury doesn't necessarily show up in the blood unless in acute toxicity situations. Instead, it is possible the mercury is sequestered in tissues where it exerts its toxic effects and that serum Hg levels don't correlate well with tissue Hg levels. Additionally, I just got back to my dentist today and asked him about the ceramic fillings. He told me that they contain aluminum and he wouldn't use them on his patients. How annoying is that? - Christian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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