Stiff Ness

[Guest guest]

How is everyone dealing with their stiffness sensations? Are you stretching? Can you stretch? Have you not been able to stretch? When ever I feel stiff, and sometimes just out of the blue, my legs want to be stretched. I think they want more attention than I've been paying them.

I've been monitoring them. I think since Saturday night when I was standing still for a long time and my knee felt like it was locking up, I don't think I've felt any stiffness. I went for a walk and worked out the knee problem and I can't recall having it since. We've been talking about it here so I've been monitoring.

I've been working on curling my left toes, I can't make "fists" out of them even manually with my hands like some people can, and I don't think I'll be able to use them to pick things up, but they've been curling more than I've ever been able to. I got the idea to ask my docs to take xrays of my feet a few years ago to see if there was anything wrong structurally. They said they see no reason why I can't curl them. I never was able to and haven't tried to often.. every so often, try, yep, can't do, and that's that, every few months. But in the last few weeks I've been curling them when ever I can. Still can't do my right foot, but I THINK I'm making progress with it. Is it the LDN? Along with the RLS going away, I can curl my toes. I know you all don't know me, but I SWEAR I could NEVER, not as long or as far back as I can remember, curl my toes, neither foot. I believe it has more to do with my L5 spina bifida occulta, then the T5, C5 or head lesion areas. Maybe I'll never get my right foot going.. but 1 of 2 ain't bad. Sure wasn't expecting it, but sure was hard to not notice!

We have really good placebo effect illusionary imaginations, eh? #65 tonight, and counting.

So what's the point of this message? Oh yeah, stretch the limbs that feel stiff. Use them. See what they can do and see if the stiffness doesn't get worked out. I really think it's the muscles waking up after all these years and saying 'HEY, WHAT'S THIS?' 'LET'S PLAY!'

I used to be a fast walker. I used to be a sprinter. I used to get yelled at by the family all the time, "Larry? Aren't you walking WITH us? Not way out in front of us?". The last year or so they've been like "Larry? Aren't you walking with us? Come on, catch up? What's taking so long?". I just can't seem to get out of first gear while walking. I just started thinking about it today... so I tried to get into 2nd gear and was able to, but not for long. It's summer time, if it ever stops raining, I think I'm going to have to start going for nice long walks. We have to test all our theories.. nobody really knows, we only guess and see how we feel afterwards. I was just telling an ex coworker all I've accomplished in the last few weeks, especially this week, and it's only 1/2 way over. He's very impressed. He knows what I've been going through the last, oh, 16 1/2 years. He's the one that got me to chiros back in 1989 and said in 1998 "hey, maybe it's MS" (for which I said "NO WAY" and it was dropped).

I don't know if it's because I'm a Sagittarian, or because I've always been interested in playing doctor LOL, or just that biology and anatomy fascinate me, or could be lots of other things. I thought I knew a lot about our bodies and how it reacts and interacts bioenvironmentally, but I never really gave the CNS much thought. I learned a lot in the last year and am still learning. This stuff fascinates me. LDN caught my attention, I find the synchronicity involved in every step of the way, from first hearing about it to finally getting it, and now taking it, to be amazing. I learned greatly from Wayne Dyer. I learn greatly from everyone sharing their questions, stories, and commonalities.

I hope his stiffness works itself out.

----- Original Message -----

From: Max

low dose naltrexone ; Spotlight_ldn

Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 15:55

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Italians Catching up!

I don’t know how to explain this but LDN is seducing Italians. We have found some really interested doctors and people are slowly starting taking it. The provisional count is 3 but at least two others people will start it soon. Big deal, they are all inexperienced; my sister started earliest just 1 and 1/2 month ago. Therefore, I will probably need some of your help soon. One of these guys is telling me of leg stiffness as someone of you also reported. He is admitting it is easing up during the day… I wish it won’t last. I am so sorry to hear other people here complaining for the same problem even for longer. As far as I see it, the leg stiffness is not even a side effect. Insomnia might be. I thing the rigidity is a stage, a transition of healing. I hope so... I am also starting to be quite upset continui! ng to hear about dosage problems and pills inaccuracy. One Italian guy said he preferred to buy from the pharmacy Antaxone in 50 ml flacons. He is determine to experiment on itself his right dosage not necessarily jumping directly from 3mg to 4.5 mg. Who said the ideal dosage for someone must be 3mg or 4.5 mg and nothing between? His method is not as much practical as taking pills but it can be more accurate, especially at the beginning, to find the right dosage. The 50 mg flacon contains 20 ml of solution. Using a small syringe you can pick up from 1.2 ml of solution 3 mg of Naltrexone, from 1.4 ml à 3.5 mg, from 1.6 mlà 4mg and so on…

I cannot disagree with him that this might be a good method for starting, isn’t it? Perhaps even for continuing....

I wish you all the best,

[Guest guest]

LARRY, YES YES YES IT IS THE LDN THAT'S CURLING YOUR TOES. I, LIKE

YOU, HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO CURL MY TOES....BUT EVEN THOUGH MY LEGS ARE

STIFF, I CAN NOW CURL MY TOES....YEAAAAAAAA!!!

THE STIFF LEGS IS ANOTHER STORY....I DO SIT ON MY BUTT IN FRONT OF

PUTER A LOT....BUT EVEN WHEN I'M SITTING, I AM CONSTANTLY

STRETCHING, LIFTING, AND YES CURLING...LOL. SO FAR, NO LUCK..STILL

STIFF.....BUT I AM NOT GIVING UP. I BELIEVE IT IS IN THE

DOSEAGE.....I AM WAITING TO HEAR WHAT DR BAHARI TELLS MY DR., BUT I

MAY GO DOWN TO 2MG.....MAYBE SOME OF US DON'T NEED AS MANY OF THOSE

LITTLE ENDORPHINE GUYS RUNNING AROUND AS OTHERS....OR AS MUCH

BLOCKAGE OF ENDORPHINES (HOWEVER IT WORKS)

LIKE YOU LARRY AND MAX, I HAVE BECOME A LITTLE BIT OF A SCIENTIST,

AND MAY DO A LITTLE EXPERIMENTING WITH THE DOSEAGES BETWEEN 1.5 AND

4.5MG......BUT RIGHT NOW I'M STAYING ON 3MG TILL I HEAR FROM DOC.

HOPFULLY MAX IS RIGHT AND THIS IS JUST A TRANSITION PERIOD AND THE

SIDES WILL GO AWAY.....IN THE MEANTIME LETS KEEP CURLING!!

SALLY

P.S. LARRY WHAT IS RLS

--- In low dose naltrexone , " LarryGC " <larrygc@s...>

wrote:

>

> How is everyone dealing with their stiffness sensations? Are you

stretching? Can you stretch? Have you not been able to stretch?

When ever I feel stiff, and sometimes just out of the blue, my legs

want to be stretched. I think they want more attention than I've

been paying them.

>

> I've been monitoring them. I think since Saturday night when I

was standing still for a long time and my knee felt like it was

locking up, I don't think I've felt any stiffness. I went for a

walk and worked out the knee problem and I can't recall having it

since. We've been talking about it here so I've been monitoring.

>

> I've been working on curling my left toes, I can't make " fists "

out of them even manually with my hands like some people can, and I

don't think I'll be able to use them to pick things up, but they've

been curling more than I've ever been able to. I got the idea to

ask my docs to take xrays of my feet a few years ago to see if there

was anything wrong structurally. They said they see no reason why I

can't curl them. I never was able to and haven't tried to often..

every so often, try, yep, can't do, and that's that, every few

months. But in the last few weeks I've been curling them when ever

I can. Still can't do my right foot, but I THINK I'm making

progress with it. Is it the LDN? Along with the RLS going away, I

can curl my toes. I know you all don't know me, but I SWEAR I could

NEVER, not as long or as far back as I can remember, curl my toes,

neither foot. I believe it has more to do with my L5 spina bifida

occulta, then the T5, C5 or head lesion areas. Maybe I'll never get

my right foot going.. but 1 of 2 ain't bad. Sure wasn't expecting

it, but sure was hard to not notice!

>

> We have really good placebo effect illusionary imaginations, eh?

#65 tonight, and counting.

>

> So what's the point of this message? Oh yeah, stretch the limbs

that feel stiff. Use them. See what they can do and see if the

stiffness doesn't get worked out. I really think it's the muscles

waking up after all these years and saying 'HEY, WHAT'S

THIS?' 'LET'S PLAY!'

>

> I used to be a fast walker. I used to be a sprinter. I used to

get yelled at by the family all the time, " Larry? Aren't you

walking WITH us? Not way out in front of us? " . The last year or so

they've been like " Larry? Aren't you walking with us? Come on,

catch up? What's taking so long? " . I just can't seem to get out of

first gear while walking. I just started thinking about it today...

so I tried to get into 2nd gear and was able to, but not for long.

It's summer time, if it ever stops raining, I think I'm going to

have to start going for nice long walks. We have to test all our

theories.. nobody really knows, we only guess and see how we feel

afterwards. I was just telling an ex coworker all I've

accomplished in the last few weeks, especially this week, and it's

only 1/2 way over. He's very impressed. He knows what I've been

going through the last, oh, 16 1/2 years. He's the one that got me

to chiros back in 1989 and said in 1998 " hey, maybe it's MS " (for

which I said " NO WAY " and it was dropped).

>

> I don't know if it's because I'm a Sagittarian, or because I've

always been interested in playing doctor LOL, or just that biology

and anatomy fascinate me, or could be lots of other things. I

thought I knew a lot about our bodies and how it reacts and

interacts bioenvironmentally, but I never really gave the CNS much

thought. I learned a lot in the last year and am still learning.

This stuff fascinates me. LDN caught my attention, I find the

synchronicity involved in every step of the way, from first hearing

about it to finally getting it, and now taking it, to be amazing. I

learned greatly from Wayne Dyer. I learn greatly from everyone

sharing their questions, stories, and commonalities.

>

> I hope his stiffness works itself out.

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Max

> low dose naltrexone ;

Spotlight_ldn

> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 15:55

> Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Italians Catching up!

>

>

> I don't know how to explain this but LDN is seducing Italians.

We have found some really interested doctors and people are slowly

starting taking it. The provisional count is 3 but at least two

others people will start it soon. Big deal, they are all

inexperienced; my sister started earliest just 1 and 1/2 month ago.

Therefore, I will probably need some of your help soon. One of these

guys is telling me of leg stiffness as someone of you also reported.

He is admitting it is easing up during the day. I wish it won't

last. I am so sorry to hear other people here complaining for the

same problem even for longer. As far as I see it, the leg stiffness

is not even a side effect. Insomnia might be. I thing the rigidity

is a stage, a transition of healing. I hope so... I am also starting

to be quite upset continui! ng to hear about dosage problems and

pills inaccuracy. One Italian guy said he preferred to buy from the

pharmacy Antaxone in 50 ml flacons. He is determine to experiment on

itself his right dosage not necessarily jumping directly from 3mg to

4.5 mg. Who said the ideal dosage for someone must be 3mg or 4.5 mg

and nothing between? His method is not as much practical as taking

pills but it can be more accurate, especially at the beginning, to

find the right dosage. The 50 mg flacon contains 20 ml of solution.

Using a small syringe you can pick up from 1.2 ml of solution 3 mg

of Naltrexone, from 1.4 ml à 3.5 mg, from 1.6 mlà 4mg and so on.

>

> I cannot disagree with him that this might be a good method for

starting, isn't it? Perhaps even for continuing....

>

> I wish you all the best,