Guest guest Posted March 25, 1999 Report Share Posted March 25, 1999 > wrote: > The last digest I got was almost 60k big, and had about 1k worth > of new information in it. Tangerine, Saul and Dr , your > posts included THE ENTIRE DIGEST in your replies, as have the > last 4 or 5 messages from Tangerine. > I want to back up here. Thank you for posting this, I was about to do the same. I was going to sign-off the list due to having to wade through all the garbage. Just check your replies to make sure they don't include the entire previous digest before you send it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 1999 Report Share Posted November 13, 1999 Russ wrote : " far, nothing has been shown to better support the immune system, (with NO toxicity) than Ambrotose. (See, DM, M.D. et al, Journal of the American Naturopathic Association, Vol 1 No 2. A study of the effects of 196 natural Health product and Herbs, February 1999) " ----------- In a paper highly debatable since the author now works for Mannatech. Your argument is as flat as a pancake. If you people wants to continued being fulled it is up to you and them but I want to let ppl know that I not as stupid as a MLM thiks I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 1999 Report Share Posted November 13, 1999 Dr. See does not work for Mannatech. Where did you get your information? You are dead wrong !! His research leading up to this paper was as a completely independent 3rd party. After the paper was published, he then was hired by Mannatech to present his findings to the public. There is nothing illegitimate in that. Watch out for the cow pies. You just stepped in one !! Russ Re: Digest Number 164 >From: " Luiz Moreira " <gingerjoe@...> > >Russ wrote : > " far, nothing has been shown to better support >the immune system, (with NO toxicity) than Ambrotose. (See, DM, M.D. et al, >Journal of the American Naturopathic Association, Vol 1 No 2. A study of >the effects of 196 natural Health product and Herbs, February 1999) " >----------- >In a paper highly debatable since the author now works for >Mannatech. Your argument is as flat as a pancake. >If you people wants to continued being fulled it is up to you and them but I >want to let ppl know that I not as stupid as a MLM thiks I am. > > > >>_ > >Subscription URL: /subscribe.cgi/candidiasis > > >Send blank message to this e-mail address if you want to: > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE !!!!!!!!! : > > candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist > >To change status from normal to digest: > candidiasis-digestonelist > >To change status from digest to normal: > candidiasis-normalonelist > >To subscribe: > candidiasis-subscribeonelist > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 1999 Report Share Posted November 14, 1999 , What diet are you on? The one that I like the best is the Rotation diet listed in " The Yeast Connection Cookbook " by G. Crook, M.D. and Marjorie Hurt , R.N. It is the only one of the Candida diets that I don't feel deprived. I also use recipes from the " Candida Control Cookbook " by Gail Burton and " 5 Years Without Food, The Food Allergy Survival Guide " by tte M Dumke (this one has some *great* recipes!). I've been on the Candida diet twice... the first time I was successful and then did a dumb thing. I went off the diet and started eating like I had before... except that I never have eaten corn again... " I'm allergic to corn " ... as if I'm not slightly allergic to everything I eat, thanx to the Candida. And then to make it even worse when I noticed that I had the yeast back... just a little, I didn't go right back on the diet. Anyway, I'm on it again and grateful that I am. As far as the medications we talk about here in the States not being available to you over there. I wouldn't worry about it. The first time I dealt with Candida, all of the stuff wasn't available to me either. I went to a naturopath and other than the diet, I took a good multi-vitimin, a good multi-mineral, and echinacea. For your information the Mannatech site is Mannatech.com and they are selling in the US, Canada, and Australia... I can't help but think UK isn't far behind. I trust this helps. And by the way, I'd find another doctor... I would recommend a naturopath. I tried MDs for years until I figured out they don't know about Candida and don't want to know about Candida (not all of them... but most!). Don't stay with a doctor that's not helping you. Look around until you find someone who is willing to take the time with you... listen and do what it takes to help you! Good Luck! Collien~~~ " When I get a little money, I buy a book; And if any is left I buy food and clothes. " --- Eramus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 1999 Report Share Posted November 14, 1999 , There are so many different diets out there that tell us to do different things because the different diets work for different people. It is a cue for us to look at the diets and then look at our bodies and our allergies and food sensitivites and tailor the diet to fit our own need. It makes it harder to find and adjust the diets to our special needs... so often we give up. Hang in there and keep searching and adjusting until the " perfect for you " diet is discovered! Collien~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2000 Report Share Posted March 18, 2000 In a message dated 03/18/2000 1:14:49 AM Pacific Standard Time, Dronelist writes: << Then there is the new dental stuff...oregano oil is wonderful, > wonderful stuff...my hygenist got all excited that my teeth had NO > tartar on them and wanted to know what I had been using.. >> Where do I get this oregano oil for dental cleansing? My husband has lots of tartar. thanks....Kiasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2000 Report Share Posted April 28, 2000 Jet, that is so interesting--the catalog pictures showing where the airbrushing was done. I wish I knew all this when I was a teenager. It would've saved me alot of grief. A long time ago I saw a show on TV about this. It showed how on computers they change EVERYTHING--the eye brightness, smooth out the skin, erase shadows, reshape body parts. They even showed them lengthening an extremely leggy model's legs to the extreme. I know it's all done to sell a product, but it does a real job on young (and not so young!) girls' self esteem and body image. Dawn G.--Massachusetts There were ghosts in the eyes of all the boys you sent away. They haunt this dusty beach road in the skeleton frames of burned out Chevrolets... <A HREF= " http://hometown.aol.com/dawnpage99/myhomepage/index.html " >About Dawn...</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2000 Report Share Posted May 9, 2000 Dh husband brought the article home for me to read. To be honest, I wouldn't want the DS to go away, just the autism. When he was a little baby I would have gladly given him a shot in the arm if that's what it took to be " normal " . Now that he is 8 and at times I can see past the autism, I wouldn't want to take the DS away. Also, my other children have benefited from Josiah being given to our family. If there weren't people that were " different " in this world, what a dull place it would be. We love Josiah sooo much and he is so cute. I've heard many stories about adult DS and how their parents wouldn't change anything either. I met a DS young man last week that was sooo incredibly sweet and mannerly. He shook my hand and introduced himself and his family. His Dad did tell us that he struggled with his limitations since he is the oldest child and understood the responsibilities and privileges that come with that and, yet, understood his many limitations. I just cried when I got home. Because of the autism, not the DS, Josiah will not be able to do these things, short of an absolute miracle. Anyway, out of all " disabilities that one of my children could have, DS is what I would *want* them to have, without the autism. That changes everything. Autism, to me, is the MOST difficult thing to deal with and would be whether my child had DS or not. My little was showing signs of autism very early and I was devastated! I got on my hands and knees and just cried and cried and told God that I couldn't care for another child with this and would not be able to do for him all that would need to be done that He would have to. Well, all the symptoms have just stopped!! I wouldn't have done this if it had been DS. looks at me now and no longer turns his head from side to side repetitively. We do love and enjoy Josiah so much, i know that none of us could imagine our family being without him and that's the bottom line. I would be in the line *first* if there were a cure for autism! In my not-so-humble opinion. Lesa I'm glad that this was started, I've really enjoyed hearing from every ones heart and not just from a medical standpoint. Thank you, everyone, for sharing. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2000 Report Share Posted May 11, 2000 In a message dated 5/11/00 3:57:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time, egroups writes: << Yes, I would keep the DS, but I'd jump at a cure for the autism. Me, too....just change " autism " to " ADHD " ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2000 Report Share Posted May 11, 2000 In a message dated 5/11/00 3:57:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time, egroups writes: << Could you please elaborate. >> Lori: I would LOVE to send the newspaper article....I'm waiting to hear from Joan on how to send attachments....or I can just quote it from the paper...would be long, but if you guys don't mind...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2000 Report Share Posted May 11, 2000 In a message dated 5/11/00 3:57:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time, egroups writes: << If you call 7 years " lately. " CK, >> sorry, CK........I thought I had it bad, with just complaining about this in the last year or so...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2000 Report Share Posted May 11, 2000 In a message dated 5/11/00 3:57:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time, egroups writes: << lmao i have become a recluse lately, i dont really want to go anywhere because i dont feel like chasing or correcting ashton all the time....its easier to stay home and stay by the pool or in it.......or to do rice or roll in the ball tent.....no pressures at home to be a certain way......we can all be us and not feel threatened... >> AMEN.......Leah....you SAID IT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2000 Report Share Posted May 11, 2000 In a message dated 5/11/00 12:13:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, will.obey@... writes: << In my not-so-humble opinion. Lesa I'm glad that this was started, I've really enjoyed hearing from every ones heart and not just from a medical standpoint. Thank you, everyone, for sharing. >> Yes, me too Lesa. Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2000 Report Share Posted May 11, 2000 > << If you call 7 years " lately. " > > CK, >> > sorry, CK........I thought I had it bad, with just complaining about this in > the last year or so...... I don't think of anyone's problems as bad or worse or better, just is. We've been going through all this since Ian was 4. Despite some pretty dramatic behavior on his part (like running down a road toward a highway looking back at me and laughing, with me tackling him about 3 feet from the highway, or disappearing at the doctor's office and running through the labyrinth of hallways in the building), we couldn't get anyone to see that there was something different about this kid with Down syndrome until about 2 years ago. Even then, the autism specialist didn't see the autism because she was thrown by what Down syndrome does to it. It's kind of odd how time telescopes when I think back on all the things we've been through. Seems like such a short time ago, and so long ago all at once. The issues change all the time. Now we've got hormones on top of everything else, and the natural pre-teen urge to rebel on top of the oppositional behavior. Until a couple of weeks ago, I would have thought the running component was behind us, but it's back. Once upon a time we couldn't take the family to a Taco Bell, now we can -- and yet just a week ago, Jim took Ian to WalMart to look at lawn mowers and Ian pitched a fit because Jim wouldn't let him live in the Pokemon exhibit or buy a Pokedex, and so now Jim says he won't take him there again. The crazy thing is that it's just so crazy, so unpredictable. I can be so moved by his good behavior, so frustrated by his bad behavior, and back again, within minutes. CK, Mom to Ian (2/89), (9/90), and Rose (6/94) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2000 Report Share Posted May 11, 2000 ** High Priority ** I love Wal-MArt - they have wheelchairs with basket things across the lap - almost as good as a harness!! I can whip in, get a chair, put Elie in it, get my " needs " taken care of and out again before Elie figures out how to get out of the chair. I don't care if his TSS can go to Wlamrt and he is " a little angel " . She is only attending to him, I have THINGS TO DO!! Sara >>> ckc@... - 05/11/0 10:52 AM >>> > << If you call 7 years " lately. " > > CK, >> > sorry, CK........I thought I had it bad, with just complaining about this in > the last year or so...... I don't think of anyone's problems as bad or worse or better, just is. We've been going through all this since Ian was 4. Despite some pretty dramatic behavior on his part (like running down a road toward a highway looking back at me and laughing, with me tackling him about 3 feet from the highway, or disappearing at the doctor's office and running through the labyrinth of hallways in the building), we couldn't get anyone to see that there was something different about this kid with Down syndrome until about 2 years ago. Even then, the autism specialist didn't see the autism because she was thrown by what Down syndrome does to it. It's kind of odd how time telescopes when I think back on all the things we've been through. Seems like such a short time ago, and so long ago all at once. The issues change all the time. Now we've got hormones on top of everything else, and the natural pre-teen urge to rebel on top of the oppositional behavior. Until a couple of weeks ago, I would have thought the running component was behind us, but it's back. Once upon a time we couldn't take the family to a Taco Bell, now we can -- and yet just a week ago, Jim took Ian to WalMart to look at lawn mowers and Ian pitched a fit because Jim wouldn't let him live in the Pokemon exhibit or buy a Pokedex, and so now Jim says he won't take him there again. The crazy thing is that it's just so crazy, so unpredictable. I can be so moved by his good behavior, so frustrated by his bad behavior, and back again, within minutes. CK, Mom to Ian (2/89), (9/90), and Rose (6/94) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There's still time to order Calyx & Corolla flowers for mom. These fresh and elegant bouquets are available for delivery by Mother's Day. To order, please visit 1/4103/10/_/691668/_/958075774/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2000 Report Share Posted May 27, 2000 HI keith, ( REGARDING BODY ACHES, PAINS AND TIREDNESS,) The information I have found on it is very long, I didn't want to send it through the digest, if you don't mind, send me your address, and I will forward this article. Let me know. CCAMPB3234@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2000 Report Share Posted October 5, 2000 The url is www..ch/ and on this site you can purchase an ozonator for 219.00 us. I use it as directed for olive oil. I let it run in a 2 oz. bottle of olive oil for about an hour and a half. then put it in the freezer til I chip some out for use. i have started to put some vit. e and a in it too just to see how it works.. pj egroups wrote: > > There are 25 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: Magnetic Pulser strength > From: Alrich5@... > 2. Re: Digest Number 160 > From: Henry <pj20844@...> > 3. pzapper substitute? > From: superflous1@... > 4. Colloidal Silver Research from the CS List Part 2 > From: DotsieBoo@... > 5. Colloidal Silver Research from the CS List Part 5 > From: DotsieBoo@... > 6. Colloidal Silver Research from the CS List Part 4 > From: DotsieBoo@... > 7. Colloidal Silver Research from the CS List Part 3 > From: DotsieBoo@... > 8. Colloidal Silver Research from the CS List Part 9 > From: DotsieBoo@... > 9. Colloidal Silver Research from the CS List Part 8 > From: DotsieBoo@... > 10. Colloidal Silver Research from the CS List Part 7 > From: DotsieBoo@... > 11. Colloidal Silver Research from the CS List Part 1 > From: DotsieBoo@... > 12. Re: pzapper substitute? > From: DotsieBoo@... > 13. Re: Digest Number 160 > From: NYlabs@... > 14. Colloidal Silver Research from the CS List Part 6 > From: DotsieBoo@... > 15. RE: Ozonators > From: " Dennis Harwood " <dennis@...> > 16. RE: pzapper substitute? > From: " Dennis Harwood " <dennis@...> > 17. Re: pzapper substitute? > From: cking001@... > 18. Re: pzapper substitute? > From: DotsieBoo@... > 19. Re: Differences Between a Zapper, and a Beck Bl... > From: Sjlane99@... > 20. Re: Re: Differences Between a Zapper, and a Beck... > From: Sjlane99@... > 21. Re: pzapper substitute? > From: ruby <ruby@...> > 22. Molecular Enhancer > From: DotsieBoo@... > 23. Re: Molecular Enhancer > From: superflous1@... > 24. Re: Molecular Enhancer > From: DotsieBoo@... > 25. Re: Molecular Enhancer > From: ruby <ruby@...> > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 13:30:08 EDT > From: Alrich5@... > Subject: Re: Magnetic Pulser strength > > In a message dated 10/3/00 2:59:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > Dubar486@... writes: > > << Two years ago, I had a tooth under a bridge that needed root canal. > Since I didn't have the money to lay out for a new bridge, the > dentist did the root canal through the bridge and told me that this > would need to be taken care of soon because the bridge was loose and > the root canal was only a temporary solution. It didn't bother me so > I ignored it for a year and a half and when I received my magnetic > pulser, I began to pulse the area of the tooth every day for a few > months. I stopped pulsing and a month later, I started to get a > toothache and realized I had to do something about it right away. > Well, when the dentist x-rayed the tooth, he asked me when I had the > tooth removed. I told him that I never had the tooth extracted and he > refused to believe me. He said that perhaps I forgot and I insisted > that I never had it pulled. Since there was a root canal in the tooth > I was concerned that maybe the poisons/tooth could be floating around > in my jaw and he said that was impossible for a tooth to disintegrate > like that. He really thinks that I am either not telling him the > truth or that I don't remember having a tooth pulled - under a bridge > no less. I asked him how I could have had the tooth pulled if it is > under a bridge and he told me that it is possible to have that done > if it is removed surgically (I would have remembered surgery). I was > so annoyed with him that I insisted on proof that there was no tooth > there so he cantelevered (sp?) the bridge and sure enough, no tooth. > I had to go back the next week because I still had questions and the > first thing he said when he entered to room was " so did you remember > when you had that tooth pulled " . Needless to say, I am looking for > another dentist at the moment because he said the only possibility is > that the tooth was removed by a dentist - there is no other way it > could have disappeared. I didn't want to tell this dentist or any > other dentist for that matter about the magnetic pulser but I am also > concerned about what happened to the tooth and the poisonous root > canal material. I guess this is a good thing because I was warned > two years prior to that of the necessity of having the tooth pulled > soon. I also used the magnetic pulser for another tooth on the other > side of my mouth and it didn't do anything like this - it did relieve > the toothache however. The original tooth ache that brought me to > the dentist in the first place was probably the friction of the > bridge against the gums because the tooth was gone. I'm wondering if > anyone has ever heard of a magnetic pulser having enough power to > disintegrate a tooth? I wanted to send this to the dentalcleanse > list but I'm sure they don't know anything about Magnetic Pulser's. > > >> > > Are you using the blood purifier in case there are any toxins left in the > blood? > Al > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 11:56:50 -0700 > From: Henry <pj20844@...> > Subject: Re: Digest Number 160 > > Re the oxonator---I am using an ozonator from the site. The thing > has improved my energy level greatly. I drink 4 or 5 glasses (10 oz) > of filtered water ozonated for 5 or so min. immediately prior to downing > it. Results have been great for me. And the ozonated olive oil is sure > doing wonders for my skin. I keep it in the freezer and chip it out of > the jar with a knife just before applying it. My whole family is using > the ozonated water and doing better seemingly. I don't hang around the > unit while its operating and breathe the air around it. I don't know > about doing that yet. Still thinking on that. But the energy for me is > great. pj > > egroups wrote: > > > > > > There are 4 messages in this issue. > > > > Topics in this digest: > > > > 1. Re: FDA > > From: " Duncan Crow " <duncancrow@...> > > 2. Differences Between a Zapper, and a Beck Blood Purifier? > > From: Alrich5@... > > 3. Re: Ozonator > > From: bradkirby@... > > 4. Ozonator > > From: DotsieBoo@... > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 10:14:41 -0700 > > From: " Duncan Crow " <duncancrow@...> > > Subject: Re: FDA > > > > In my view that makes the FDA a private business, unlikely to be able to > > ever operate outside of a conflict-of-interest. They are making a mockery > > of the legal system.What they're doing is illegal, illegitimate, invalid, > > and government-sanctioned. > > > > This begs the attention of the highest power of the land. Someone had > > better clean up after them and dissolve that whole branch of the government. > > As an alternative, the right thing to do would be to dissolve the federal > > government on the grounds that it is a perversion itself and/or incapable of > > doing the right thing. > > > > Fact is, the corruption is almost complete now and very difficult to > > reverse. Their job is almost done already. May be too late for a wake-up > > call. > > > > Better review EVERYTHING that's been done for the last 75 years and make > > appropriate amends. > > > > ciao > > > > Duncan > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 19:38:05 EDT > > From: Alrich5@... > > Subject: Differences Between a Zapper, and a Beck Blood Purifier? > > > > Do You Know the Differences Between > > a Magnetic Pulse Generator, > > a Zapper, and a Beck Blood Purifier? > > > > by Dennis Harwood > > > > The Hulda Zapper is a small electronic device that uses two copper > > handholds to deliver an electrical current of approximately 7 to 8 volts to > > the body. This current produces a square wave with a frequency of about > > 30KHz (Kilohertz). There are some units that have frequencies as low as 2KHz > > to 5KHz and some that even have a variable frequency. The lower frequencies > > are supposed to make it easier for the current to penetrate into the body and > > be more effective. Regardless of the frequency used, all of the > > Zappers work on the same principle of a DC current with a square wave applied > > to the body through the handholds. These handholds can be placed on any part > > of the body desired, not just held in each hand. As a matter of fact, it is > > recommended that you routinely switch the position of the handholds to > > different parts of the body to promote penetration of the current to all > > areas and extremities. > > > > The Bob Beck Blood Purifier (Silver Pulser) is also an electronic device that > > uses two small electrodes that are placed over major blood supply arteries or > > veins on the wrists or ankles. It produces a small micro-current in the > > blood stream as the blood circulates past the electrodes. It uses a higher > > voltage, typically about 27 volts, but a much lower frequency than the Zapper. > > > > The Magnetic Pulse Generator does not use electrical currents, but instead > > uses a high intensity, short duration magnetic pulse of approximately 21 > > Kilogauss as its means of killing or immobilizing parasites. The unit > > consists of a small box which holds the electronics and a round coil attached > > by a cord. It is the coil which produces the pulse every 5-8 seconds. The > > coil can be placed anywhere on the body, including the head and face. The > > ability to place the coil anywhere means that areas not covered by the Zapper > > or the Black Box/Blood Purifier are easily treated, including the Lymph > > system, stomach, head, and intestines. > > > > All three devices are attempting to do the same thing, i.e. to use either > > small electrical currents or high intensity magnetic pulses applied to > > various areas of the body to kill living organisms that are in your body that > > shouldn't be there. This includes organisms such as: viruses, bacteria, > > mold, fungi, and parasites, which includes such nasties as tapeworms, > > ringworms, roundworms, flukes, HIV, Flu bugs, etc. I'll be using the term > > parasite from here on to mean any and all of the previously mentioned > > organisms. So please keep that in mind while reading the remaining text. > > > > The number of microscopic and non-microscopic invaders that are in the human > > body on a regular basis is truly astounding! What's even more astounding, > > though, is the fact that the medical establishment seems to be completely > > oblivious to their presence. The damage they do, however, is very real and > > is a major source of suffering for an almost completely unsuspecting public. > > The World Health Organization and other knowledgeable health groups around > > the world have stated that parasite infestation is the number one health > > problem in the world. Yet your friendly, local doctor is unaware for the > > most part. Or it may be that he is simply unwilling to waste time trying to > > convince people of the problem. In the United States we, as a people, seem > > to believe that parasites are only problems for poor people from some third > > world country. We are too clean and civilized to ever have parasite > > problems. Think again! Read the article > > > > In any event, to get back to the task at hand: How do these devices differ > > and do you need to use all three of them? In short, they are different in > > major ways and, Yes, you do need to use them all to be more effective in > > eliminating parasites of all types. The Zapper kills by passing an > > electrical current through the body. Electricity travels on the surface of > > muscle tissue and will not penetrate the body like radio waves or x-rays do. > > Therefore, there are large areas of the body that the current cannot reach, > > making it ineffective in eliminating parasites in those locations. Areas > > such as the contents of your stomach and your intestines, your sinus > > cavities, parasites inside gallstones in your gallbladder and/or liver, and > > the blood stream and lymph tend to be impervious to the Zapper. > > Unfortunately, large numbers of parasites live in all of those areas. So you > > need different devices to reach different areas. > > > > The Bob Beck Blood Purifier differs from the Zapper in that it's sole > > intention is to clean the blood stream by immobilizing the parasites found > > there by means of a small micro-current applied directly to a blood vein or > > artery. It takes approximately two hours for the blood of a typical person > > to completely circulate once throughout the body. So while wearing Bob > > Beck's Blood Purifier unit you are exposing your blood stream to the current > > about once every two hours. > > > > The Magnetic Pulse Generator allows you to target specific areas on the body, > > such as the Lymph system, the face, or certain muscle groups. These are all > > areas which can have little or no exposure to the electrical currents of the > > other two devices. Because of the short duration of the magnetic pulses this > > device is not effective in cleaning the blood like the Blood Purifier(Silver > > Pulser). > > > > Please remember, one treatment won't kill or immobilize all parasites in your > > blood or your body. You have to do repeated sessions to continually work on > > the parasites that are ever present. And no one can guarantee the > > elimination of all parasites throughout the body, it just isn't possible.. > > The Zapper works mainly on the muscle tissue and surface areas inside the > > body. The Blood Purifier works on the blood stream. The Magnetic Pulse > > Generator is mainly used on the Lymph system and areas around the head. So > > there is little overlap of the three devices and they should all be used for > > the most effective treatment of any major disease or as a preventative > > treatment. > > > > After having said all three should be used, I don't want you to get the idea > > it is all or nothing. Many people only use one or two of the devices. Let > > your own judgement, and your financial resources, dictate what you do. If > > you are ill, don't spend foolishly expecting miracle cures. These devices > > have been in use around the world for many years and anecdotal evidence of > > their effectiveness abounds, but I'm obligated to tell you that no cures are > > guaranteed or implied. Testimonials, while interesting, are not an > > indication of scientific or medical effectiveness. > > > > There seems to be differences in opinions as to which device is the most > > effective in dealing with a variety of illnesses. My personal opinion is that > > it depends on the particular illness involved. I've read reports of the > > Zapper being not as effective as the Silver Pulser (Blood Purifier). From > > personal experience with both devices all I can say is I use both. My > > personal recommendation is to use the Zapper for quick " zaps " on children and > > in any situation where you are looking for a reasonably quick resolution to a > > parasite situation (Colloidal Silver is normally the first thing I reach > > for). The Zapper won't work in all situations due to the nature of the > > electrical current, but I have found it is very useful in dealing with > > children and their continual exposure to Aflatoxin and Ergot mold toxins. > > These toxins are in all sorts of foods that are used everyday by most kids > > and can do a real number on their systems, resulting in " temper tantrums " , > > abnormal behavior, uncharacteristic outbursts, etc. Don't let your kids eat > > peanut butter! Read what Dr. has to say about it in the book " The Cure > > for All Diseases " . Being aware of this and using the Zapper regularly has > > made a difference with my kids, lowering stress levels and reducing the " us > > against them " tensions found in lots and lots of families with young children. > > > > The FTC (Federal Trade Commission) has questioned my claims of beneficial use > > of these devices. I claim no cures, and want to make sure everyone > > understands that my opinions are my own and have no scientific or medical > > basis. In other words, I'm not a doctor and can not allow anyone to assume > > I'm stating things as facts, when they have not been proven in medical > > studies recognized by the medical community. With that in mind, please > > continue reading my opinions below. > > > > An interesting study was related to me recently about the Zapper. A > > researcher has been using chicken legs as a measure of effectiveness of the > > Zapper in reducing or eliminating microbes. This researcher says it takes > > about three days for normal fresh chicken legs to spoil. After " zapping " for > > an hour each day the chicken legs will last up to seventeen days before > > spoiling, depending on the particular Zapper being used. There is a lot of > > debate about what component of the Zapper current actually produces the > > results. Most researchers tend to believe that it is the odd harmonics > > produced by a small spike that is present in the square wave produced by > > standard Zappers. Some of the Zappers being sold have had this spike > > intentionally removed, supposedly making the unit work better or reducing > > possible tingling sensations. My feeling at the moment is the spike is > > necessary for the most effective operation. Another researcher has stated > > that different units will produce different results, with some being better > > at certain illnesses than others. Be aware of these differences and, for the > > moment, try to stick to the standard Zapper design. > > > > I don't have the particulars at the moment, but a researcher of the effects > > of the Beck Blood Purifier units has stated that " normal " blood will only > > last about three days in a test tube before " spoiling " . After a full blood > > purification treatment the same blood will last about thirty days! Major > > difference, huh? This info has not been verified, so please use your own > > judgment about the truthfulness. > > > > Bob Beck recommends using his Blood Purifier for two hours per day for a > > minimum of 30 days, and longer if you have a major illness. Then use it > > periodically to maintain a clean blood stream. Dr. Beck's other devices, > > the Magnetic Pulse Generator, the Water Ozonator, and Colloidal Silver, are > > all part of a complete protocol developed by Dr. Beck to eliminate all types > > of parasites from all areas of the body. > > > > The Magnetic Pulse Generator should be used in conjunction with the Blood > > Purifier for about 20 minutes per day. What has been discovered over years > > of use with thousands of people worldwide is that parasites can " hide " in > > your Lymph system, appearing to be gone just to return months or years later > > bringing old illnesses with them. For people with major illnesses it is very > > important to use both devices together for complete coverage. > > > > A typical use of the Zapper would be initially for daily use, a minimum of > > one to three times per day (of one hour sessions), for one to two weeks. > > Then periodic use every few days or so to keep clear of parasites. How > > frequently you use it after the initial one to two week treatment depends > > solely on your individual needs. Some people can go a week or more between > > Zapper sessions with no problems. Others tend to feel sluggish every three > > or four days and need to Zap to restore their energy. With all of these > > devices, use common sense and listen to your body. > > > > An Important Note: > > > > Increased publicity about Dr. Hulda and the Zapper has brought > > increased attention from health and government authorities. This website and > > others are being scrutinized for outrageous or misleading claims of cures or > > beneficial treatments. I have chosen to work within the system, not to > > fight it. There may be an inordinate number of disclaimers on many of my > > pages, but I have no other choice. I started this website years ago as a > > place for people to go to get information that could be life-saving. Selling > > products was always a secondary issue, not the primary focus. Lately, the > > focus seems to be on getting more and more people to use Zappers, Colloidal > > Silver, and Silver Pulsers, to get the info and the products in the hands of > > as many people as possible so there will be no way to stop them. If enough > > people use and know about these products, and see results, it makes it harder > > for them to be forced off the market. > > > > You, the consumer, must be aware of these devices, but not tricked or > > suckered into buying something based on unfounded claims. When sick with a > > major illness, it is easy to jump on anything that might offer relief. If I > > were dying, you can bet I would do whatever I could to find something that > > worked. > > > > Unfortunately, nothing works for everybody! And there is way too much hype > > in the health industry, as well as in the medical profession and the drug > > industry. Any one who says otherwise has a vested interest somewhere. > > > > In my opinion the information provided by Dr. and Dr. Beck is truly > > life saving. But, I am not a medical doctor and don't pretend to be one. > > You have the right to choose the medical treatment that suites you, despite > > what the government, the AMA, and the drug companies have to say. > > > > May your journey to good health be fruitful. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Dennis > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2000 03:13:21 -0000 > > From: bradkirby@... > > Subject: Re: Ozonator > > > > Point out what part of that statement do you find confusing > > Brad > > > > > > > I never did this part of the protocol because I find the " cold > > corona > > > electrical discharge " debate confusing. > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 00:27:59 EDT > > From: DotsieBoo@... > > Subject: Ozonator > > > > In a message dated 9/30/00 11:22:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > bradkirby@... writes: > > > > << Point out what part of that statement do you find confusing >> > > > > Hi Brad, > > I am told that cold corona discharge units are the best and that the > > Ultra-Violet > > units are inferior. I think the part that confuses me is when I read that > > some ozone generators can be irritating to the lungs and produce nitrogen > > oxide. If that's true, how safe can they be? I know that raw ozone in the > > air is an irritant and there are hazards associated with breathing ozone. > > They say the only safe way to breathe ozone is bubbled through olive oil. I > > don't know enough about it to feel safe ozonating water while breathing in > > ozone. > > Dotsie > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 12:35:25 -0700 (PDT) > From: superflous1@... > Subject: pzapper substitute? > > can a zapper (say from don croft, like mine) > be used like a beck device? > thanks > A. : . > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:17:06 EDT > From: DotsieBoo@... > Subject: Colloidal Silver Research from the CS List Part 2 > > Metabolic Solutions Info Series > Metabolic Solutions Institute > 902-584-3810 > > Colloidal Silver in Medical Literature > > AIDS Study > Eight people recover from the AIDS virus in a > scientifically documented study. An additional seven > AIDS patients recover as verified by anecdotal > reports, as reported by Dr. M. Farber, M.P. N.D., > Ph.D., D.C. Author of the " Micro Silver Bullet TM " 4th > Edition, November 1996 ISBN 1-87742-00 X Pages XIII & > XVI. > > Lyme Disease > " Borrelia burgdorferi and hermsti, organisms > associated with causing the symptoms of Lyme Disease, > were tested at the Department of Health and Human > Services, Rocky Mountain Laboratories and Fox Chase > Cancer Center, respectively, in 1995; in the Rocky > Mountain Labs study, it was demonstrated that no live > spirochetes of either borrellia burgdorferi [b310 > Orhermsti (HS-1)] survived after 24 hours of exposure > to colloidal silver in concentrations of 15 ppm and > 150 ppm. " - Department of Health and Human Services, > National Institutes of Health, Rocky Mountain > Laboratories, January, 13, 1995, Schuan, Tom, Ph.D., > Burgdorfer, Willy, Ph.D. > > Cancer Research > " Research by Dr. O. Becker, and others > indicated that in laboratory tests conducted, > Colloidal Silver reverted cancer cells back to normal > (not kill them but return them to normal). Other > observations were made such as a correlation between > silver deficiency and illness or proper immune system > functioning, burns, soft tissue and bone repair > acceleration, and the formation of cells that appear > to be able to repair virtually any part of the body. > Reduction of inflammation and the antibacterial, > germicidal, astringent, antibiotic attributes so far > observed are yet to be fully understood. " - The Body > Electric, Dr. O. Becker ISBN 0688069711 Quill, > New York or Morrow & Company > > Infections > C.E.A. MacLeod reports colloidal silver being used > with marked success in the following cases: " Septic > and follicular tonsillitis, 's angina, > phlyctenular conjunctivitis, gonorrheal > conjunctivitis, spring catarrh, impetigo (contagious > acne of face and body), septic ulcer of legs, > ringworm, soft sores, suppurative appendicitis after > operation (the wounds cleaned rapidly), pustular > eczema of scalp and pubes, chronic eczema of meatus of > ear with recurrent boils, chronic suppuration in > otitis media, and bromidrosis of feet. By injection: > gonnorrhoea and chronic cystitis (local), boils, > epididymitis. " - Lancet, Feb. 3, 1912 p. 83. > > " The germicidal action of certain metals in the > colloidal state having been demonstrated, it only > remained to apply them to the human subject, and this > has been done in a large number of cases with > astonishingly successful results. It is not > suggested that colloidal metal solutions have no > disadvantages, but for internal administration, either > orally or hypodermically, they have the advantage of > being rapidly fatal to the parasites both bacterial > and otherwise without any toxic action on the host. > Colloidal silver solution is quite stable even in the > presence of salts and the normal constituents of the > blood. Its destructive action on toxins is very > marked, so that it will protect rabbits from ten times > the lethal dose of tetanic (from tetanus) or > diphtheric toxin. " - Searle, A. B. The Use of Colloids > in Health and Disease (Quoting from the British > Medical Journal, May 12, 1917 p.83), E.P. Dutton & > Company, New York, 1919, p.75 > > Metabolic Solutions Info Report > Metabolic Solutions Institute > 902-584-3810 > > Professional Quotes Regarding Colloidal Silver > > " ... in this eye-opening research, silver is emerging > as a wonder of modern medicine... perhaps, it soon > will be recognized as: OUR MIGHTIEST GERM FIGHTER. For > example, even the most powerful pharmaceutical > antibiotics are effective against only a small number > of microorganisms, and then only until drug-resistant > strains develop. Yet, research at Washington > University School of Medicine ... has shown that > silver is bactericidal to nearly 650 different > disease-causing organisms, and that silver-resistant > bacteria strains do not develop. " ---Science Digest > > " It killed not only the HIV virus, but every virus > that was tested in the lab. " ---U.C.L.A. Medical > Center > > " When silver was present, the cancer cell > de-differentiated and the body was restored. " Dr. > > > " ...major enhancement of both the rate and competency > of the healing process...the germ-killing of silver > has been known for some time...the Soviets use silver > ions to sterilize recycled water aboard their space > stations... It kills even antibiotic strains, and also > works on fungus infections... It stimulates > bone-forming cells, cures the most common s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2000 Report Share Posted October 5, 2000 I have used a Croft zapper while also using the Beck blood electrifier. I used the zapper on my leg while I had the Beck device on my wrist. Did not have any adverse reaction. Both devices are great in my opinion. egroups wrote: > > There are 25 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: Magnetic Pulser strength > From: Alrich5@... > 2. Re: Digest Number 160 > From: Henry <pj20844@...> > 3. pzapper substitute? > From: superflous1@... > 4. Colloidal Silver Research from the CS List Part 2 > From: DotsieBoo@... > 5. Colloidal Silver Research from the CS List Part 5 > From: DotsieBoo@... > 6. Colloidal Silver Research from the CS List Part 4 > From: DotsieBoo@... > 7. Colloidal Silver Research from the CS List Part 3 > From: DotsieBoo@... > 8. Colloidal Silver Research from the CS List Part 9 > From: DotsieBoo@... > 9. Colloidal Silver Research from the CS List Part 8 > From: DotsieBoo@... > 10. Colloidal Silver Research from the CS List Part 7 > From: DotsieBoo@... > 11. Colloidal Silver Research from the CS List Part 1 > From: DotsieBoo@... > 12. Re: pzapper substitute? > From: DotsieBoo@... > 13. Re: Digest Number 160 > From: NYlabs@... > 14. Colloidal Silver Research from the CS List Part 6 > From: DotsieBoo@... > 15. RE: Ozonators > From: " Dennis Harwood " <dennis@...> > 16. RE: pzapper substitute? > From: " Dennis Harwood " <dennis@...> > 17. Re: pzapper substitute? > From: cking001@... > 18. Re: pzapper substitute? > From: DotsieBoo@... > 19. Re: Differences Between a Zapper, and a Beck Bl... > From: Sjlane99@... > 20. Re: Re: Differences Between a Zapper, and a Beck... > From: Sjlane99@... > 21. Re: pzapper substitute? > From: ruby <ruby@...> > 22. Molecular Enhancer > From: DotsieBoo@... > 23. Re: Molecular Enhancer > From: superflous1@... > 24. Re: Molecular Enhancer > From: DotsieBoo@... > 25. Re: Molecular Enhancer > From: ruby <ruby@...> > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 13:30:08 EDT > From: Alrich5@... > Subject: Re: Magnetic Pulser strength > > In a message dated 10/3/00 2:59:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > Dubar486@... writes: > > << Two years ago, I had a tooth under a bridge that needed root canal. > Since I didn't have the money to lay out for a new bridge, the > dentist did the root canal through the bridge and told me that this > would need to be taken care of soon because the bridge was loose and > the root canal was only a temporary solution. It didn't bother me so > I ignored it for a year and a half and when I received my magnetic > pulser, I began to pulse the area of the tooth every day for a few > months. I stopped pulsing and a month later, I started to get a > toothache and realized I had to do something about it right away. > Well, when the dentist x-rayed the tooth, he asked me when I had the > tooth removed. I told him that I never had the tooth extracted and he > refused to believe me. He said that perhaps I forgot and I insisted > that I never had it pulled. Since there was a root canal in the tooth > I was concerned that maybe the poisons/tooth could be floating around > in my jaw and he said that was impossible for a tooth to disintegrate > like that. He really thinks that I am either not telling him the > truth or that I don't remember having a tooth pulled - under a bridge > no less. I asked him how I could have had the tooth pulled if it is > under a bridge and he told me that it is possible to have that done > if it is removed surgically (I would have remembered surgery). I was > so annoyed with him that I insisted on proof that there was no tooth > there so he cantelevered (sp?) the bridge and sure enough, no tooth. > I had to go back the next week because I still had questions and the > first thing he said when he entered to room was " so did you remember > when you had that tooth pulled " . Needless to say, I am looking for > another dentist at the moment because he said the only possibility is > that the tooth was removed by a dentist - there is no other way it > could have disappeared. I didn't want to tell this dentist or any > other dentist for that matter about the magnetic pulser but I am also > concerned about what happened to the tooth and the poisonous root > canal material. I guess this is a good thing because I was warned > two years prior to that of the necessity of having the tooth pulled > soon. I also used the magnetic pulser for another tooth on the other > side of my mouth and it didn't do anything like this - it did relieve > the toothache however. The original tooth ache that brought me to > the dentist in the first place was probably the friction of the > bridge against the gums because the tooth was gone. I'm wondering if > anyone has ever heard of a magnetic pulser having enough power to > disintegrate a tooth? I wanted to send this to the dentalcleanse > list but I'm sure they don't know anything about Magnetic Pulser's. > > >> > > Are you using the blood purifier in case there are any toxins left in the > blood? > Al > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 11:56:50 -0700 > From: Henry <pj20844@...> > Subject: Re: Digest Number 160 > > Re the oxonator---I am using an ozonator from the site. The thing > has improved my energy level greatly. I drink 4 or 5 glasses (10 oz) > of filtered water ozonated for 5 or so min. immediately prior to downing > it. Results have been great for me. And the ozonated olive oil is sure > doing wonders for my skin. I keep it in the freezer and chip it out of > the jar with a knife just before applying it. My whole family is using > the ozonated water and doing better seemingly. I don't hang around the > unit while its operating and breathe the air around it. I don't know > about doing that yet. Still thinking on that. But the energy for me is > great. pj > > egroups wrote: > > > > > > There are 4 messages in this issue. > > > > Topics in this digest: > > > > 1. Re: FDA > > From: " Duncan Crow " <duncancrow@...> > > 2. Differences Between a Zapper, and a Beck Blood Purifier? > > From: Alrich5@... > > 3. Re: Ozonator > > From: bradkirby@... > > 4. Ozonator > > From: DotsieBoo@... > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 10:14:41 -0700 > > From: " Duncan Crow " <duncancrow@...> > > Subject: Re: FDA > > > > In my view that makes the FDA a private business, unlikely to be able to > > ever operate outside of a conflict-of-interest. They are making a mockery > > of the legal system.What they're doing is illegal, illegitimate, invalid, > > and government-sanctioned. > > > > This begs the attention of the highest power of the land. Someone had > > better clean up after them and dissolve that whole branch of the government. > > As an alternative, the right thing to do would be to dissolve the federal > > government on the grounds that it is a perversion itself and/or incapable of > > doing the right thing. > > > > Fact is, the corruption is almost complete now and very difficult to > > reverse. Their job is almost done already. May be too late for a wake-up > > call. > > > > Better review EVERYTHING that's been done for the last 75 years and make > > appropriate amends. > > > > ciao > > > > Duncan > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 19:38:05 EDT > > From: Alrich5@... > > Subject: Differences Between a Zapper, and a Beck Blood Purifier? > > > > Do You Know the Differences Between > > a Magnetic Pulse Generator, > > a Zapper, and a Beck Blood Purifier? > > > > by Dennis Harwood > > > > The Hulda Zapper is a small electronic device that uses two copper > > handholds to deliver an electrical current of approximately 7 to 8 volts to > > the body. This current produces a square wave with a frequency of about > > 30KHz (Kilohertz). There are some units that have frequencies as low as 2KHz > > to 5KHz and some that even have a variable frequency. The lower frequencies > > are supposed to make it easier for the current to penetrate into the body and > > be more effective. Regardless of the frequency used, all of the > > Zappers work on the same principle of a DC current with a square wave applied > > to the body through the handholds. These handholds can be placed on any part > > of the body desired, not just held in each hand. As a matter of fact, it is > > recommended that you routinely switch the position of the handholds to > > different parts of the body to promote penetration of the current to all > > areas and extremities. > > > > The Bob Beck Blood Purifier (Silver Pulser) is also an electronic device that > > uses two small electrodes that are placed over major blood supply arteries or > > veins on the wrists or ankles. It produces a small micro-current in the > > blood stream as the blood circulates past the electrodes. It uses a higher > > voltage, typically about 27 volts, but a much lower frequency than the Zapper. > > > > The Magnetic Pulse Generator does not use electrical currents, but instead > > uses a high intensity, short duration magnetic pulse of approximately 21 > > Kilogauss as its means of killing or immobilizing parasites. The unit > > consists of a small box which holds the electronics and a round coil attached > > by a cord. It is the coil which produces the pulse every 5-8 seconds. The > > coil can be placed anywhere on the body, including the head and face. The > > ability to place the coil anywhere means that areas not covered by the Zapper > > or the Black Box/Blood Purifier are easily treated, including the Lymph > > system, stomach, head, and intestines. > > > > All three devices are attempting to do the same thing, i.e. to use either > > small electrical currents or high intensity magnetic pulses applied to > > various areas of the body to kill living organisms that are in your body that > > shouldn't be there. This includes organisms such as: viruses, bacteria, > > mold, fungi, and parasites, which includes such nasties as tapeworms, > > ringworms, roundworms, flukes, HIV, Flu bugs, etc. I'll be using the term > > parasite from here on to mean any and all of the previously mentioned > > organisms. So please keep that in mind while reading the remaining text. > > > > The number of microscopic and non-microscopic invaders that are in the human > > body on a regular basis is truly astounding! What's even more astounding, > > though, is the fact that the medical establishment seems to be completely > > oblivious to their presence. The damage they do, however, is very real and > > is a major source of suffering for an almost completely unsuspecting public. > > The World Health Organization and other knowledgeable health groups around > > the world have stated that parasite infestation is the number one health > > problem in the world. Yet your friendly, local doctor is unaware for the > > most part. Or it may be that he is simply unwilling to waste time trying to > > convince people of the problem. In the United States we, as a people, seem > > to believe that parasites are only problems for poor people from some third > > world country. We are too clean and civilized to ever have parasite > > problems. Think again! Read the article > > > > In any event, to get back to the task at hand: How do these devices differ > > and do you need to use all three of them? In short, they are different in > > major ways and, Yes, you do need to use them all to be more effective in > > eliminating parasites of all types. The Zapper kills by passing an > > electrical current through the body. Electricity travels on the surface of > > muscle tissue and will not penetrate the body like radio waves or x-rays do. > > Therefore, there are large areas of the body that the current cannot reach, > > making it ineffective in eliminating parasites in those locations. Areas > > such as the contents of your stomach and your intestines, your sinus > > cavities, parasites inside gallstones in your gallbladder and/or liver, and > > the blood stream and lymph tend to be impervious to the Zapper. > > Unfortunately, large numbers of parasites live in all of those areas. So you > > need different devices to reach different areas. > > > > The Bob Beck Blood Purifier differs from the Zapper in that it's sole > > intention is to clean the blood stream by immobilizing the parasites found > > there by means of a small micro-current applied directly to a blood vein or > > artery. It takes approximately two hours for the blood of a typical person > > to completely circulate once throughout the body. So while wearing Bob > > Beck's Blood Purifier unit you are exposing your blood stream to the current > > about once every two hours. > > > > The Magnetic Pulse Generator allows you to target specific areas on the body, > > such as the Lymph system, the face, or certain muscle groups. These are all > > areas which can have little or no exposure to the electrical currents of the > > other two devices. Because of the short duration of the magnetic pulses this > > device is not effective in cleaning the blood like the Blood Purifier(Silver > > Pulser). > > > > Please remember, one treatment won't kill or immobilize all parasites in your > > blood or your body. You have to do repeated sessions to continually work on > > the parasites that are ever present. And no one can guarantee the > > elimination of all parasites throughout the body, it just isn't possible.. > > The Zapper works mainly on the muscle tissue and surface areas inside the > > body. The Blood Purifier works on the blood stream. The Magnetic Pulse > > Generator is mainly used on the Lymph system and areas around the head. So > > there is little overlap of the three devices and they should all be used for > > the most effective treatment of any major disease or as a preventative > > treatment. > > > > After having said all three should be used, I don't want you to get the idea > > it is all or nothing. Many people only use one or two of the devices. Let > > your own judgement, and your financial resources, dictate what you do. If > > you are ill, don't spend foolishly expecting miracle cures. These devices > > have been in use around the world for many years and anecdotal evidence of > > their effectiveness abounds, but I'm obligated to tell you that no cures are > > guaranteed or implied. Testimonials, while interesting, are not an > > indication of scientific or medical effectiveness. > > > > There seems to be differences in opinions as to which device is the most > > effective in dealing with a variety of illnesses. My personal opinion is that > > it depends on the particular illness involved. I've read reports of the > > Zapper being not as effective as the Silver Pulser (Blood Purifier). From > > personal experience with both devices all I can say is I use both. My > > personal recommendation is to use the Zapper for quick " zaps " on children and > > in any situation where you are looking for a reasonably quick resolution to a > > parasite situation (Colloidal Silver is normally the first thing I reach > > for). The Zapper won't work in all situations due to the nature of the > > electrical current, but I have found it is very useful in dealing with > > children and their continual exposure to Aflatoxin and Ergot mold toxins. > > These toxins are in all sorts of foods that are used everyday by most kids > > and can do a real number on their systems, resulting in " temper tantrums " , > > abnormal behavior, uncharacteristic outbursts, etc. Don't let your kids eat > > peanut butter! Read what Dr. has to say about it in the book " The Cure > > for All Diseases " . Being aware of this and using the Zapper regularly has > > made a difference with my kids, lowering stress levels and reducing the " us > > against them " tensions found in lots and lots of families with young children. > > > > The FTC (Federal Trade Commission) has questioned my claims of beneficial use > > of these devices. I claim no cures, and want to make sure everyone > > understands that my opinions are my own and have no scientific or medical > > basis. In other words, I'm not a doctor and can not allow anyone to assume > > I'm stating things as facts, when they have not been proven in medical > > studies recognized by the medical community. With that in mind, please > > continue reading my opinions below. > > > > An interesting study was related to me recently about the Zapper. A > > researcher has been using chicken legs as a measure of effectiveness of the > > Zapper in reducing or eliminating microbes. This researcher says it takes > > about three days for normal fresh chicken legs to spoil. After " zapping " for > > an hour each day the chicken legs will last up to seventeen days before > > spoiling, depending on the particular Zapper being used. There is a lot of > > debate about what component of the Zapper current actually produces the > > results. Most researchers tend to believe that it is the odd harmonics > > produced by a small spike that is present in the square wave produced by > > standard Zappers. Some of the Zappers being sold have had this spike > > intentionally removed, supposedly making the unit work better or reducing > > possible tingling sensations. My feeling at the moment is the spike is > > necessary for the most effective operation. Another researcher has stated > > that different units will produce different results, with some being better > > at certain illnesses than others. Be aware of these differences and, for the > > moment, try to stick to the standard Zapper design. > > > > I don't have the particulars at the moment, but a researcher of the effects > > of the Beck Blood Purifier units has stated that " normal " blood will only > > last about three days in a test tube before " spoiling " . After a full blood > > purification treatment the same blood will last about thirty days! Major > > difference, huh? This info has not been verified, so please use your own > > judgment about the truthfulness. > > > > Bob Beck recommends using his Blood Purifier for two hours per day for a > > minimum of 30 days, and longer if you have a major illness. Then use it > > periodically to maintain a clean blood stream. Dr. Beck's other devices, > > the Magnetic Pulse Generator, the Water Ozonator, and Colloidal Silver, are > > all part of a complete protocol developed by Dr. Beck to eliminate all types > > of parasites from all areas of the body. > > > > The Magnetic Pulse Generator should be used in conjunction with the Blood > > Purifier for about 20 minutes per day. What has been discovered over years > > of use with thousands of people worldwide is that parasites can " hide " in > > your Lymph system, appearing to be gone just to return months or years later > > bringing old illnesses with them. For people with major illnesses it is very > > important to use both devices together for complete coverage. > > > > A typical use of the Zapper would be initially for daily use, a minimum of > > one to three times per day (of one hour sessions), for one to two weeks. > > Then periodic use every few days or so to keep clear of parasites. How > > frequently you use it after the initial one to two week treatment depends > > solely on your individual needs. Some people can go a week or more between > > Zapper sessions with no problems. Others tend to feel sluggish every three > > or four days and need to Zap to restore their energy. With all of these > > devices, use common sense and listen to your body. > > > > An Important Note: > > > > Increased publicity about Dr. Hulda and the Zapper has brought > > increased attention from health and government authorities. This website and > > others are being scrutinized for outrageous or misleading claims of cures or > > beneficial treatments. I have chosen to work within the system, not to > > fight it. There may be an inordinate number of disclaimers on many of my > > pages, but I have no other choice. I started this website years ago as a > > place for people to go to get information that could be life-saving. Selling > > products was always a secondary issue, not the primary focus. Lately, the > > focus seems to be on getting more and more people to use Zappers, Colloidal > > Silver, and Silver Pulsers, to get the info and the products in the hands of > > as many people as possible so there will be no way to stop them. If enough > > people use and know about these products, and see results, it makes it harder > > for them to be forced off the market. > > > > You, the consumer, must be aware of these devices, but not tricked or > > suckered into buying something based on unfounded claims. When sick with a > > major illness, it is easy to jump on anything that might offer relief. If I > > were dying, you can bet I would do whatever I could to find something that > > worked. > > > > Unfortunately, nothing works for everybody! And there is way too much hype > > in the health industry, as well as in the medical profession and the drug > > industry. Any one who says otherwise has a vested interest somewhere. > > > > In my opinion the information provided by Dr. and Dr. Beck is truly > > life saving. But, I am not a medical doctor and don't pretend to be one. > > You have the right to choose the medical treatment that suites you, despite > > what the government, the AMA, and the drug companies have to say. > > > > May your journey to good health be fruitful. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Dennis > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2000 03:13:21 -0000 > > From: bradkirby@... > > Subject: Re: Ozonator > > > > Point out what part of that statement do you find confusing > > Brad > > > > > > > I never did this part of the protocol because I find the " cold > > corona > > > electrical discharge " debate confusing. > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 00:27:59 EDT > > From: DotsieBoo@... > > Subject: Ozonator > > > > In a message dated 9/30/00 11:22:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > bradkirby@... writes: > > > > << Point out what part of that statement do you find confusing >> > > > > Hi Brad, > > I am told that cold corona discharge units are the best and that the > > Ultra-Violet > > units are inferior. I think the part that confuses me is when I read that > > some ozone generators can be irritating to the lungs and produce nitrogen > > oxide. If that's true, how safe can they be? I know that raw ozone in the > > air is an irritant and there are hazards associated with breathing ozone. > > They say the only safe way to breathe ozone is bubbled through olive oil. I > > don't know enough about it to feel safe ozonating water while breathing in > > ozone. > > Dotsie > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 12:35:25 -0700 (PDT) > From: superflous1@... > Subject: pzapper substitute? > > can a zapper (say from don croft, like mine) > be used like a beck device? > thanks > A. : . > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:17:06 EDT > From: DotsieBoo@... > Subject: Colloidal Silver Research from the CS List Part 2 > > Metabolic Solutions Info Series > Metabolic Solutions Institute > 902-584-3810 > > Colloidal Silver in Medical Literature > > AIDS Study > Eight people recover from the AIDS virus in a > scientifically documented study. An additional seven > AIDS patients recover as verified by anecdotal > reports, as reported by Dr. M. Farber, M.P. N.D., > Ph.D., D.C. Author of the " Micro Silver Bullet TM " 4th > Edition, November 1996 ISBN 1-87742-00 X Pages XIII & > XVI. > > Lyme Disease > " Borrelia burgdorferi and hermsti, organisms > associated with causing the symptoms of Lyme Disease, > were tested at the Department of Health and Human > Services, Rocky Mountain Laboratories and Fox Chase > Cancer Center, respectively, in 1995; in the Rocky > Mountain Labs study, it was demonstrated that no live > spirochetes of either borrellia burgdorferi [b310 > Orhermsti (HS-1)] survived after 24 hours of exposure > to colloidal silver in concentrations of 15 ppm and > 150 ppm. " - Department of Health and Human Services, > National Institutes of Health, Rocky Mountain > Laboratories, January, 13, 1995, Schuan, Tom, Ph.D., > Burgdorfer, Willy, Ph.D. > > Cancer Research > " Research by Dr. O. Becker, and others > indicated that in laboratory tests conducted, > Colloidal Silver reverted cancer cells back to normal > (not kill them but return them to normal). Other > observations were made such as a correlation between > silver deficiency and illness or proper immune system > functioning, burns, soft tissue and bone repair > acceleration, and the formation of cells that appear > to be able to repair virtually any part of the body. > Reduction of inflammation and the antibacterial, > germicidal, astringent, antibiotic attributes so far > observed are yet to be fully understood. " - The Body > Electric, Dr. O. Becker ISBN 0688069711 Quill, > New York or Morrow & Company > > Infections > C.E.A. MacLeod reports colloidal silver being used > with marked success in the following cases: " Septic > and follicular tonsillitis, 's angina, > phlyctenular conjunctivitis, gonorrheal > conjunctivitis, spring catarrh, impetigo (contagious > acne of face and body), septic ulcer of legs, > ringworm, soft sores, suppurative appendicitis after > operation (the wounds cleaned rapidly), pustular > eczema of scalp and pubes, chronic eczema of meatus of > ear with recurrent boils, chronic suppuration in > otitis media, and bromidrosis of feet. By injection: > gonnorrhoea and chronic cystitis (local), boils, > epididymitis. " - Lancet, Feb. 3, 1912 p. 83. > > " The germicidal action of certain metals in the > colloidal state having been demonstrated, it only > remained to apply them to the human subject, and this > has been done in a large number of cases with > astonishingly successful results. It is not > suggested that colloidal metal solutions have no > disadvantages, but for internal administration, either > orally or hypodermically, they have the advantage of > being rapidly fatal to the parasites both bacterial > and otherwise without any toxic action on the host. > Colloidal silver solution is quite stable even in the > presence of salts and the normal constituents of the > blood. Its destructive action on toxins is very > marked, so that it will protect rabbits from ten times > the lethal dose of tetanic (from tetanus) or > diphtheric toxin. " - Searle, A. B. The Use of Colloids > in Health and Disease (Quoting from the British > Medical Journal, May 12, 1917 p.83), E.P. Dutton & > Company, New York, 1919, p.75 > > Metabolic Solutions Info Report > Metabolic Solutions Institute > 902-584-3810 > > Professional Quotes Regarding Colloidal Silver > > " ... in this eye-opening research, silver is emerging > as a wonder of modern medicine... perhaps, it soon > will be recognized as: OUR MIGHTIEST GERM FIGHTER. For > example, even the most powerful pharmaceutical > antibiotics are effective against only a small number > of microorganisms, and then only until drug-resistant > strains develop. Yet, research at Washington > University School of Medicine ... has shown that > silver is bactericidal to nearly 650 different > disease-causing organisms, and that silver-resistant > bacteria strains do not develop. " ---Science Digest > > " It killed not only the HIV virus, but every virus > that was tested in the lab. " ---U.C.L.A. Medical > Center > > " When silver was present, the cancer cell > de-differentiated and the body was restored. " Dr. > > > " ...major enhancement of both the rate and competency > of the healing process...the germ-killing of silver > has been known for some time...the Soviets use silver > ions to sterilize recycled water aboard their space > stations... It kills even antibiotic strains, and also > works on fungus infections... It stimulates > bone-forming cells, cures the most common s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2000 Report Share Posted October 6, 2000 In a message dated 10/6/00 12:13:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, pj20844@... writes: << The url is www..ch/ >> Thanks pj Dotsie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2000 Report Share Posted October 9, 2000 So I received my Beck zapper, but now 2 questions " 1) What is electroporation? 2) Most of us are on prescrip drugs, has anyone used it while on prescrip drugs? Thanks, << I have used a Croft zapper while also using the Beck blood electrifier. I used the zapper on my leg while I had the Beck device on my wrist. Did not have any adverse reaction. Both devices are great in my opinion. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2000 Report Share Posted October 9, 2000 Electroportation appears to be when the cell walls become more permeable than normal. With the effect of allowing more material to tranport thru than normal. The percieved danger, of course, is that you receive a much larger than normal dose of nutrients or drug dosage. It is said that this only occurrs while zapping (Beck type), so it would be prudent to: 1 Zap in the morning before taking meds or eating and/or 2 Start your zapping at small intervals, say 5-15 minutes at a time, and see how YOU react. Build up your time from there. Personally, I ignored the warning. I think they're just covering their rears. OTOH, I have heard of some people that had reactions so YMMV. Be prudent! This is NOT medical advice, I am NOT a doctor! Chuck I don't mind being in touch with reality, as long as I don't have to live there! On Mon, 9 Oct 2000 22:52:57 EDT, Sjlane99@... wrote: >So I received my Beck zapper, but now 2 questions " >1) What is electroporation? >2) Most of us are on prescrip drugs, has anyone used it while on prescrip >drugs? >Thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2000 Report Share Posted October 10, 2000 Hi The best Idea is to use the Beck Blood purifier in the morning before you take any drugs...If it has the 100 hz setting you can use it anytime ...the 1/4 hz and 4hz settings require before drug use....I use these units when required and haven't had the slightest problem with them but each person is different ...so choose the 100 hz output but it will take a little longer. Sjlane99@... wrote: > So I received my Beck zapper, but now 2 questions " > 1) What is electroporation? > 2) Most of us are on prescrip drugs, has anyone used it while on prescrip > drugs? > Thanks, > > > << I have used a Croft zapper while also using the Beck blood electrifier. > I used the zapper on my leg while I had the Beck device on my wrist. > Did not have any adverse reaction. Both devices are great in my > opinion. >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2002 Report Share Posted August 16, 2002 , Thank you for the informtion. There is a doctor here in Vancouver that does this surgery at Legacy Immanuel I think. I called her clinic and after being on the phone for 45 minutes, I hung up. I also tried calling the bariatric group at the hospital where she does the surgeries but couldn't get through to them either. If I have to pay 250 for it to be done here, I may just fly back to San Diego and have my surgeon do it. I'd rather drive to Eugene and pay 150 than drive to Tacoma and pay 250 or 350. I will tuck your information away for future use, I am sure it will come in handy. Thank you again, Digest Number 164 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2002 Report Share Posted August 16, 2002 OK, I have to ask the dumb question of the day, what is flouro? banding on 8/23/02 Digest Number 164 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2002 Report Share Posted August 16, 2002 It is like a live x-ray... that way they can see the port and tubing. Makes it easier, so they dont accidently poke through your tubing... /// > OK, I have to ask the dumb question of the day, what is flouro? > > > banding on 8/23/02 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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