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Hi there Tom,

Welcome to the group! Sorry to hear about your youngest sister, it must be

very difficult for your family to cope with the possibility of losing

someone so young. Here's a mini intro to me so we aren't strangers. I'm

South African, 26 years old, married and live in Mauritius (an island in the

Indian Ocean) with my husband, who is Mauritian (of French descent) and our

16 dogs (they are hunting dogs, he hunts deer and wild boar.) no kids yet

but trying! I work full time in an offshore investment bank, and love my

job! I was diagnosed with RA about a year ago and take prednisone and

celebrex which control the pain very well.

You must be really looking forward to your retirement. You really must find

a good doctor who will help you with the pain and let you enjoy it.

Hope you don't mind me asking but what is a Polar Bear Club member?

I'm sure you'll enjoy it here in the group, it's a great place for support

and information.

Have a great day!

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Tom,

My sentiments exactly, only you succinctly managed

to express yourself more politely than I would have

done. I have never had a nice neuro. One of them once

said to me 'Do you really want to spend £500 of NHS

money so YOU can have an MRI scan? On wanting

diagnosis.

I obviously wasn't worthy and didn't get my MRI for

another five years from a diferent hospital.

This is why i'm anti orthodox in every repect,

Anyway I'm sure everyone has tales like that. Thankyou

Tom I've been meaning to try ginko for a while and

I'll think about the Chinese herb.

Ta Audrey

--- Bayuk <tbayuk@...> wrote:

---------------------------------

Audrey,

First things first........get a new doc your current

doc is an insensitive,

ill-informed detriment.

There is a Chinese herb " Congrong Huanshao " that has

been used for cognitive

problems quite successfully for several thousand

years. It is a little

expensive about $18.00 for 60 capsules. Suggested

dosage 3 capsules 3X a

day. You can get it from Health King Enterprise &

Balanceuticals Group,

Inc. 238 W. 31st, Chicago, Il. 60616 ( 312) 567-9978.

You might also try " Ginkgo Biloba "

The Cranberry Extract is for the kidneys and urinary

function. " Jarrow " is

simply the brand name.

Regards,

Tom

----- Original Message -----

From: " Audrey Henry " <mumpuss@...>

<low dose naltrexone >

Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 12:56 PM

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] supplements

> Tom,

> Wow, this IS monumental. My supplements are a little

> more haphazard than this. You should try the urine

> therapy as well. It would save you a fortune. By the

> way i'm not joking there!

> What can you recommend for cognitive problems. This

> has been quite severe for me in the past and I have

an

> appt. with a neuro psychologist soon but I can't see

> how he will help with cognition.

>

> When I recently saw my neuro I told him I had

> cognitive problems. I pronounced it cogn-eye-tive,

he

> asked me to repeat myself 3x, and he then laughed at

> me. 'you mean cog-nit-ive?' I don't think he knows

> what cognitive means!! This upset me as I've only

read

> about it not heard it pronounced before.

>

> Also I went in with diplopia. Do you know what he

said

> to me? I quote 'You look fine to me'.

> A nero of all people should know some MS symptoms

are

> invisible.

> What does the cranberry and jarrow do for the eyes?

> Audrey

>

>

>

> --- Bayuk <tbayuk@...> wrote:

> > Tom Bayuk

> >

> > 19868 Cypress Woods Ct.

> >

> > North Fort Myers, Florida 33903

> >

> > 239-543-4105

> >

> > tbayuk@...

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Folks,

> >

> > Here is my monumental supplement list, it is a

pain

> > every day and expensive. However, maybe not. I

> > have been doing this for almost 20 years. No

drugs

> > and doing very well.

> >

> >

> >

> > I make a drink out of the Herbal mix, Life

Extension

> > mix and the Whey Glutamine. The Whey Glutamine

> > makes our bodies make Glutathione which is needed

by

> > every cell. If Glutathione is taken as a

> > supplement it is destroyed in the stomach before

it

> > can enter the bloodstream.

> >

> >

> >

> > I also stretch and exercise throughout my waking

> > hours.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Tom

> >

> >

> >

> > Supplement list:

> >

> >

> >

> > Jarro-Dophilus+FOS .....Digestion....3 capsules

> > daily

> >

> > MSM..Required by all cells............750mg

> >

> > Bilberry..For Eyes...............80mg

> >

> > Neptune Krill Oil ................3000mg

> >

> > Jarrow Vision Optimizer.....Eyes.....3 capsules

> > daily

> >

> > Milk Thistle.................. 150mg

> >

> > Glycine...amino acid............500mg

> >

> > CO-Q10..................100mg

> >

> > Grape seed extract...Anti-oxidant......100mg

> >

> > Life Extension Booster.............1 capsule

> >

> > " " Mix.......3 scoops mixed in

> > water

> >

> > " " Herbal Mix.....3 "

"

> > " "

> >

> > Bromeplex....Digestion..........2 capsules

> >

> > Circumin....Prevents immune dysfunction ?.380mg

> >

> > Colostrum.......Myelin........ 500mg

> >

> > Vitamin D-3..................2000IU

> >

> > Potassium...................100mg

> >

> > Octacosanol......Stamina...........8000mcg

> >

> > Magnesium.................400mg

> >

> > Cranberry Extract.....Urinary.......3000mg

> >

> > Benfotiamine...Lipid form of Thiamine....150mg 4

X

> > a day

> >

> > Nat'l. Prostrate...Men only....... ..1 capsule

daily

> >

> > Stinging Nettle..Boosts ..... .....300mg

> >

> > Alpha Lipoic Acid..Anti-oxidant........250mg

> >

> > GLA...Essential fatty acid..........3000mg

> >

> > Creatine Whey Glutamine Powder..Produces

> > Glutathione, required by every human cell.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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Tom,

Interesting that we both started CS about the same time. I've been

taking small doses because the commercially made stuff is so expensive,

but tonight I'm going to order a generator to make it at home, and a

device to measure the purity of the distilled water one " brews " CS in.

According to Delise and Nadine Wooley, it takes about 16-32 ounces

a day to make a big difference with MS. Improvement can be almost

immediate (with " can " the operative word), but it takes a year or two to

reverse symptoms, it it's going to happen. I've been researching

alternatives too long to disregard the fact that different things work

for different people.

I hadn't read about CS in relation to leaky gut, but considering that it

kills not only bacteria and viruses, I'm going for it. I " m most

interested in covering the EBV base.

Oh yeah . . . I'm acquainted with a woman who reversed her symptoms,

except for a weak leg, in two years with raw diet and CS. I have the

diet covered . . . now for the CS.

Best of luck and keep experimenting . . . what have we got to lose?

Martha

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Hi Martha,

It has only been about two weeks but there does seem to be improvement with

leg strength. I hope it is not wishful thinking and I don't think it is.

My legs are more reliable the last 7-10 days. I bought 6 bottles, 4 oz.,

1100ppm for $161.00 from International Pharmaceuticals, 1825 Main St.,

Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada R2V 2A4. I wanted to be sure of quality.

My blood tests showed high numbers of Candida. I take one teaspoon under

the tongue every morning.

Regards,

Tom

P. S. We're going to beat this!!

----- Original Message -----

From: " Martha Burton " <mburtonakod@...>

<low dose naltrexone >

Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 10:12 PM

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Tom

> Tom,

>

> Interesting that we both started CS about the same time. I've been

> taking small doses because the commercially made stuff is so expensive,

> but tonight I'm going to order a generator to make it at home, and a

> device to measure the purity of the distilled water one " brews " CS in.

> According to Delise and Nadine Wooley, it takes about 16-32 ounces

> a day to make a big difference with MS. Improvement can be almost

> immediate (with " can " the operative word), but it takes a year or two to

> reverse symptoms, it it's going to happen. I've been researching

> alternatives too long to disregard the fact that different things work

> for different people.

>

> I hadn't read about CS in relation to leaky gut, but considering that it

> kills not only bacteria and viruses, I'm going for it. I " m most

> interested in covering the EBV base.

>

> Oh yeah . . . I'm acquainted with a woman who reversed her symptoms,

> except for a weak leg, in two years with raw diet and CS. I have the

> diet covered . . . now for the CS.

>

> Best of luck and keep experimenting . . . what have we got to lose?

>

> Martha

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Tom,

Someone on the CS forum told me about http://silvermedicine.org/,

the best source for unbiased CS info. On it they recommend Sovereign

Silver as being the best of the commercially made brands--smallest

particle size. At http://www.drnatura.com/8845.php I ordered two 8-oz.

bottles for $52.46. You can get four for $104.92. After going through

the two bottles in a week, I ordered a Silvergen SG6 generator this

morning with a meter to test the purity of the distilled water the CS is

brewed in, and fluid to calibrate the meter. It'll be a little work, but

much cheaper. I'm committed to doing this as long as it takes.

I'll let you know when I'm hiking again. :-)

Martha

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Hi Martha,

Thank you.

That seems like a lot of CS to go through in a week. I take one teaspoon of

1200 ppm a day under my tongue and am still on my first 4 oz. bottle.

I'll be right behind you with a backpack!

Regards,

Tom

----- Original Message -----

From: " Martha Burton " <mburtonakod@...>

<low dose naltrexone >

Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 6:22 PM

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Tom

> Tom,

>

> Someone on the CS forum told me about http://silvermedicine.org/,

> the best source for unbiased CS info. On it they recommend Sovereign

> Silver as being the best of the commercially made brands--smallest

> particle size. At http://www.drnatura.com/8845.php I ordered two 8-oz.

> bottles for $52.46. You can get four for $104.92. After going through

> the two bottles in a week, I ordered a Silvergen SG6 generator this

> morning with a meter to test the purity of the distilled water the CS is

> brewed in, and fluid to calibrate the meter. It'll be a little work, but

> much cheaper. I'm committed to doing this as long as it takes.

>

> I'll let you know when I'm hiking again. :-)

>

> Martha

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Tom,

Did I read that you take colooidal silver under your tougue? Can you tell me where you get it.

Thanks a bunch

Marie

----- Original Message -----

From: Bayuk

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Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 11:35 AM

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Tom

Hi Martha,Thank you.That seems like a lot of CS to go through in a week. I take one teaspoon of1200 ppm a day under my tongue and am still on my first 4 oz. bottle.I'll be right behind you with a backpack!Regards,Tom----- Original Message ----- From: "Martha Burton" <mburtonakod@...><low dose naltrexone >Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 6:22 PMSubject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Tom> Tom,>> Someone on the CS forum told me about http://silvermedicine.org/,> the best source for unbiased CS info. On it they recommend Sovereign> Silver as being the best of the commercially made brands--smallest> particle size. At http://www.drnatura.com/8845.php I ordered two 8-oz.> bottles for $52.46. You can get four for $104.92. After going through> the two bottles in a week, I ordered a Silvergen SG6 generator this> morning with a meter to test the purity of the distilled water the CS is> brewed in, and fluid to calibrate the meter. It'll be a little work, but> much cheaper. I'm committed to doing this as long as it takes.>> I'll let you know when I'm hiking again. :-)>> Martha>>>>>>

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Hi Marie,

I hope you are doing well, I think you are, I'm doing fine.

Yes, I started taking CS about 3 weeks ago. I had high readings of Candida and that will cause or has caused "Leaky Gut" . The CS will hopefully aid to reduce those readings.

I get 1100ppm from: International Pharmaceuticals

1825 Main St.

Winnipeg,Manitoba,

Canada, R2V 2A4

1-800-877-5097

Regards,

Tom

----- Original Message -----

From: Marie Deady

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 5:06 PM

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Tom

Hi Tom,

Did I read that you take colooidal silver under your tougue? Can you tell me where you get it.

Thanks a bunch

Marie

----- Original Message -----

From: Bayuk

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 11:35 AM

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Tom

Hi Martha,Thank you.That seems like a lot of CS to go through in a week. I take one teaspoon of1200 ppm a day under my tongue and am still on my first 4 oz. bottle.I'll be right behind you with a backpack!Regards,Tom

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Thanks Tom< I appreciate that. I am doing fine with the MS but I have been having problems with my stomach lately. Actually it is a little better this week. But for the last two weeks, everything that I ate would bother me even the mildest things. I feel bloated and full after the first bite. I was also having some pain in my stomach. I tried to call my gastrointestinal doctor last week but he was on vacation . Today they were moving to a new office so I will call tomorrow.

Can I ask who found out that you have high readings of candida and how did they find out? Maybe that is my problem/.

I am glad that you survived the hurricane.

Be talking to you

Love

Marie

----- Original Message -----

From: Bayuk

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 9:22 AM

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Tom

Hi Marie,

I hope you are doing well, I think you are, I'm doing fine.

Yes, I started taking CS about 3 weeks ago. I had high readings of Candida and that will cause or has caused "Leaky Gut" . The CS will hopefully aid to reduce those readings.

I get 1100ppm from: International Pharmaceuticals

1825 Main St.

Winnipeg,Manitoba,

Canada, R2V 2A4

1-800-877-5097

Regards,

Tom

----- Original Message -----

From: Marie Deady

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 5:06 PM

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Tom

Hi Tom,

Did I read that you take colooidal silver under your tougue? Can you tell me where you get it.

Thanks a bunch

Marie

----- Original Message -----

From: Bayuk

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 11:35 AM

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Tom

Hi Martha,Thank you.That seems like a lot of CS to go through in a week. I take one teaspoon of1200 ppm a day under my tongue and am still on my first 4 oz. bottle.I'll be right behind you with a backpack!Regards,Tom

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Hi Marie,

Up in Cape Cod I was seeing an alternative M.D. She did an "" blood test that revealed the Candida. She also advised the CS and to use Coconut oil to kill the unfriendly bacteria in the digestive system.

Love, Tom

----- Original Message -----

From: Marie Deady

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Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 4:17 PM

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Tom

Thanks Tom< I appreciate that. I am doing fine with the MS but I have been having problems with my stomach lately. Actually it is a little better this week. But for the last two weeks, everything that I ate would bother me even the mildest things. I feel bloated and full after the first bite. I was also having some pain in my stomach. I tried to call my gastrointestinal doctor last week but he was on vacation . Today they were moving to a new office so I will call tomorrow.

Can I ask who found out that you have high readings of candida and how did they find out? Maybe that is my problem/.

I am glad that you survived the hurricane.

Be talking to you

Love

Marie

----- Original Message -----

From: Bayuk

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 9:22 AM

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Tom

Hi Marie,

I hope you are doing well, I think you are, I'm doing fine.

Yes, I started taking CS about 3 weeks ago. I had high readings of Candida and that will cause or has caused "Leaky Gut" . The CS will hopefully aid to reduce those readings.

I get 1100ppm from: International Pharmaceuticals

1825 Main St.

Winnipeg,Manitoba,

Canada, R2V 2A4

1-800-877-5097

Regards,

Tom

----- Original Message -----

From: Marie Deady

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 5:06 PM

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Tom

Hi Tom,

Did I read that you take colooidal silver under your tougue? Can you tell me where you get it.

Thanks a bunch

Marie

----- Original Message -----

From: Bayuk

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 11:35 AM

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Tom

Hi Martha,Thank you.That seems like a lot of CS to go through in a week. I take one teaspoon of1200 ppm a day under my tongue and am still on my first 4 oz. bottle.I'll be right behind you with a backpack!Regards,Tom

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Thanks Tom,

I will see if my doctor will give me an blood test. But in the meantime, I don't see any reason why I shouldn't get on the CS and the coconut oil just in case. Actually from what I am reading, a lot of people are on the CS daily. You don't see any problems with being on the CS daily do you?

Thanks again for your help.

Love

Marie

----- Original Message -----

From: Bayuk

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 5:59 PM

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Tom

Hi Marie,

Up in Cape Cod I was seeing an alternative M.D. She did an "" blood test that revealed the Candida. She also advised the CS and to use Coconut oil to kill the unfriendly bacteria in the digestive system.

Love, Tom

----- Original Message -----

From: Marie Deady

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 4:17 PM

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Tom

Thanks Tom< I appreciate that. I am doing fine with the MS but I have been having problems with my stomach lately. Actually it is a little better this week. But for the last two weeks, everything that I ate would bother me even the mildest things. I feel bloated and full after the first bite. I was also having some pain in my stomach. I tried to call my gastrointestinal doctor last week but he was on vacation . Today they were moving to a new office so I will call tomorrow.

Can I ask who found out that you have high readings of candida and how did they find out? Maybe that is my problem/.

I am glad that you survived the hurricane.

Be talking to you

Love

Marie

----- Original Message -----

From: Bayuk

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 9:22 AM

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Tom

Hi Marie,

I hope you are doing well, I think you are, I'm doing fine.

Yes, I started taking CS about 3 weeks ago. I had high readings of Candida and that will cause or has caused "Leaky Gut" . The CS will hopefully aid to reduce those readings.

I get 1100ppm from: International Pharmaceuticals

1825 Main St.

Winnipeg,Manitoba,

Canada, R2V 2A4

1-800-877-5097

Regards,

Tom

----- Original Message -----

From: Marie Deady

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 5:06 PM

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Tom

Hi Tom,

Did I read that you take colooidal silver under your tougue? Can you tell me where you get it.

Thanks a bunch

Marie

----- Original Message -----

From: Bayuk

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 11:35 AM

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Tom

Hi Martha,Thank you.That seems like a lot of CS to go through in a week. I take one teaspoon of1200 ppm a day under my tongue and am still on my first 4 oz. bottle.I'll be right behind you with a backpack!Regards,Tom

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