Re: Won't take no for an answer...

April 5, 2007

rofl! Too cute!

-Jenn, AEP (ADD, Bi-Polar, Anxiety/Depression)

Proud Momma of Cory Albert (14yrs ADHD), h Dawn (12yrs

Anxiety/Depression)

and Jerry Lee " Trey " (9yrs ADHD, Bi-Polar, Asperger's)

-- ( ) Re: Won't take no for an answer...

Absolutely UNbelievable. As I'm reading this post, calls

over to me, " Can I have a chocolate macaroon (Passover cookie) for

breakfast please? " I say, " Umm, no. " Trying to supress the giggles as

I read here about the Oreo cookies. And she replies, " I knew you'd

say that. " " So why did you ask, if you knew I'd say no? " " Just to be

sure, Mommy. Just to be sure. "

LOL,

Meira

>

> In a message dated 4/4/2007 7:44:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> marciart@... writes:

> > So you wouldn't classify this as " normal " childhood behavior?

> >

> I think all kids ask for stuff, but they do it to test, like maybe

Mom really

> will let me eat Oreos for breakfast, and will buy me that awesome

game

> system, and not make me go to school so I can play with it. They

know they won't get

> it but ask, maybe to see the reaction, or maybe just in case. They

may pout

> or whine, but they don't go overboard and badger you to no end,

actually

> picking a fight with you.

>

> Welcome to Aspie-ville, where I swear it's a game they play,

because they

> cannot possibly think you'll give in...or do they?

>

> Barbara

>

April 5, 2007

HAPPY PASSOVER!!!!

( ) Re: Won't take no for an answer...

Absolutely UNbelievable. As I'm reading this post, calls

over to me, " Can I have a chocolate macaroon (Passover cookie) for

breakfast please? " I say, " Umm, no. " Trying to supress the giggles as

I read here about the Oreo cookies. And she replies, " I knew you'd

say that. " " So why did you ask, if you knew I'd say no? " " Just to be

sure, Mommy. Just to be sure. "

LOL,

Meira

>

> In a message dated 4/4/2007 7:44:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> marciart@... writes:

> > So you wouldn't classify this as " normal " childhood behavior?

> >

> I think all kids ask for stuff, but they do it to test, like maybe

Mom really

> will let me eat Oreos for breakfast, and will buy me that awesome

game

> system, and not make me go to school so I can play with it. They

know they won't get

> it but ask, maybe to see the reaction, or maybe just in case. They

may pout

> or whine, but they don't go overboard and badger you to no end,

actually

> picking a fight with you.

>

> Welcome to Aspie-ville, where I swear it's a game they play,

because they

> cannot possibly think you'll give in...or do they?

>

> Barbara

>

April 5, 2007

LOL!!!

;-)

- C.

Mom to Cassie 16 PCOS, Austin 14 ADHD and a 3.5 HFA/AS & SPD/SID

( ) Re: Won't take no for an answer...

Absolutely UNbelievable. As I'm reading this post, calls

over to me, " Can I have a chocolate macaroon (Passover cookie) for

breakfast please? " I say, " Umm, no. " Trying to supress the giggles as

I read here about the Oreo cookies. And she replies, " I knew you'd

say that. " " So why did you ask, if you knew I'd say no? " " Just to be

sure, Mommy. Just to be sure. "

LOL,

Meira

>

> In a message dated 4/4/2007 7:44:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> marciart@... writes:

> > So you wouldn't classify this as " normal " childhood behavior?

> >

> I think all kids ask for stuff, but they do it to test, like maybe

Mom really

> will let me eat Oreos for breakfast, and will buy me that awesome

game

> system, and not make me go to school so I can play with it. They

know they won't get

> it but ask, maybe to see the reaction, or maybe just in case. They

may pout

> or whine, but they don't go overboard and badger you to no end,

actually

> picking a fight with you.

>

> Welcome to Aspie-ville, where I swear it's a game they play,

because they

> cannot possibly think you'll give in...or do they?

>

> Barbara

>

April 5, 2007

Khag Sameakh!

=)

Meira

>

> HAPPY PASSOVER!!!!

>

> ( ) Re: Won't take no for an answer...

>

> Absolutely UNbelievable. As I'm reading this post, calls

> over to me, " Can I have a chocolate macaroon (Passover cookie) for

> breakfast please? " I say, " Umm, no. " Trying to supress the

giggles as

> I read here about the Oreo cookies. And she replies, " I knew you'd

> say that. " " So why did you ask, if you knew I'd say no? " " Just to

be

> sure, Mommy. Just to be sure. "

>

> LOL,

> Meira

April 5, 2007

This doesn't work for my Aspie kid. She needs to know what the

consequences are, and that they'll be follow-through. We used to

guve her three chances, and on three she'd get a consequence. Oddly,

she'd push us to the limit, and often shape up the moment she saw me

about to say " three " . So I said, no more three chances. You say or

do something disrespectful, you go immediately to your room. It's

working. She's being a lot kinder to us most of the time. And I only

have to send her to her room for a minute or two now, most of the

time, because she's really starting to get it.

Meira

>

> > The best thing to do is stop engaging. You have to be the one to

stop

> > the back and forth, cause the child won't. Answer maybe, 3 times.

> > Then,

> > the next time he asks, say " I already answered that question. Do

you

> > remember what I said? " Make him tell you. Then say, I will not

discuss

> > this anymore. And DON'T. Just either don't say anything when they

keep

> > asking or say, " I will not talk about that with you, if you would

like

> > to have a different conversation, we can do that, but this

subject is

> > closed. " Then don't say anything more about it. It's hard, and it

will

> > cause some meltdowns, but in the end, it's the only way to get

that

> > not

> > taking no behavior to stop. YOU as the parent must stop engaging.

The

> > fact that you respond over and over is continuing the cycle for

you

> > both.

> >

> > We've done the same thing with our 6 year old (for over a year

now...)

> > Now, when he asks a second or third time, I say to him, " How many

> > times

> > are you allowed to ask? " and he replies " One. " and sulks away.

> >

April 5, 2007

Nope.

It's perseveration.

Meira

> >>

> >> Along a similar line, do any of your kids bombard you with

> > questions?

> >> My daughter will ask something so quickly and about a gazillion

> > times

> >> before I even can catch a lung full of air to answer her.

> >> I have to constantly remind her to only ask something ONCE and

> > then

> >> WAIT for an answer. It's like she's badgering me with the

question

> >> before I can possibly respond.

> >>

> >> Newbie Marcia

> >>

April 5, 2007

http://www.creative-minds.info/Lorelei/Tics.htm

Re: ( ) Re: Won't take no for an answer...

Along the same line I tell my daughter if she asks me one more time

(or more than once) she definitely WILL NOT get whatever she's after.

That usually works, but I have to remind her EVERY time.

What can any of you tell me about AS or Tourette's syndrome? Are they

genetically linked at all? Though he was never medically diagnosed,

I'm 100% certain that my brother has a mild form or tourette's

syndrome. I'm trying to grasp where any of this is coming from. As a

child he was VERY argumentative and was very mean to me (his younger

sister). As adults he won't even speak to me.

Marcia

On Apr 4, 2007, at 9:06 AM, meiraharvey wrote:

> does the same thing. Even if I say yes, she keeps asking me

> sometimes! It's very strange, and I have no clue why she does it, but

> what often works is I say, " If you ask me that one more time I'm

> going to considerate it disrespect, and you can go to your room. "

> Meira

>

>>

>> DS has not yet learned, after 12 long years, that NO means just

> that, NO.

>>

>> I have rarely, if ever, given in to the no even if it meant long

> drawn out

>> battles, and he still persists in asking for things, or privileges,

> or whatever,

>> even after I've told him no a thousand times (at least it seems

> that way.)

>> Is this a game, does he actually think I'll change the rules, or is

> he truly so

>> clueless he thinks I'll give in?

>>

>> In total frustration,

>> Barbara

>>

April 5, 2007

There are ways to teach your child appropriate behaviors without

being cruel to them.

I guess your mom didn't understand that.

Hugs,

Meira

> >

> > } does the same thing. Even if I say yes, she keeps

asking

> > me=20

> > } sometimes! It's very strange, and I have no clue why she does

it,

> > but=20

> > } what often works is I say, " If you ask me that one more time

I'm=20

> > } going to considerate it disrespect, and you can go to your

room. "

> >

> > Bam does that too. If my husband and I are both present, he will

> > also almost always ask both of us, even when one of us already

> > said yes.

> >

> > Willa`

> >

April 5, 2007

That's interesting. I was thinking about this since yesterday and

though I will give it a try, I'm thinking either of my kids would just

push it to the limit if for nothing other than to discover which

number I'd chosen, LOL.

Marcia

On Apr 5, 2007, at 12:35 PM, meiraharvey wrote:

> This doesn't work for my Aspie kid. She needs to know what the

> consequences are, and that they'll be follow-through. We used to

> guve her three chances, and on three she'd get a consequence. Oddly,

> she'd push us to the limit, and often shape up the moment she saw me

> about to say " three " . So I said, no more three chances. You say or

> do something disrespectful, you go immediately to your room. It's

> working. She's being a lot kinder to us most of the time. And I only

> have to send her to her room for a minute or two now, most of the

> time, because she's really starting to get it.

>

> Meira

>

>>

>>> The best thing to do is stop engaging. You have to be the one to

> stop

>>> the back and forth, cause the child won't. Answer maybe, 3 times.

>>> Then,

>>> the next time he asks, say " I already answered that question. Do

> you

>>> remember what I said? " Make him tell you. Then say, I will not

> discuss

>>> this anymore. And DON'T. Just either don't say anything when they

> keep

>>> asking or say, " I will not talk about that with you, if you would

> like

>>> to have a different conversation, we can do that, but this

> subject is

>>> closed. " Then don't say anything more about it. It's hard, and it

> will

>>> cause some meltdowns, but in the end, it's the only way to get

> that

>>> not

>>> taking no behavior to stop. YOU as the parent must stop engaging.

> The

>>> fact that you respond over and over is continuing the cycle for

> you

>>> both.

>>>

>>> We've done the same thing with our 6 year old (for over a year

> now...)

>>> Now, when he asks a second or third time, I say to him, " How many

>>> times

>>> are you allowed to ask? " and he replies " One. " and sulks away.

>>>

April 5, 2007

Okay, I guess I need the medical definition of this term. Off to go

look it up... and yes, I'm scared. : (

Marcia

On Apr 5, 2007, at 12:37 PM, meiraharvey wrote:

> Nope.

> It's perseveration.

>

> Meira

>

>>>>

>>>> Along a similar line, do any of your kids bombard you with

>>> questions?

>>>> My daughter will ask something so quickly and about a gazillion

>>> times

>>>> before I even can catch a lung full of air to answer her.

>>>> I have to constantly remind her to only ask something ONCE and

>>> then

>>>> WAIT for an answer. It's like she's badgering me with the

> question

>>>> before I can possibly respond.

>>>>

>>>> Newbie Marcia

>>>>

>

April 5, 2007

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( ) Re: Won't take no for an answer...

Khag Sameakh!

=)

Meira

>

> HAPPY PASSOVER!!!!

>

> ( ) Re: Won't take no for an answer...

>

> Absolutely UNbelievable. As I'm reading this post, calls

> over to me, " Can I have a chocolate macaroon (Passover cookie) for

> breakfast please? " I say, " Umm, no. " Trying to supress the

giggles as

> I read here about the Oreo cookies. And she replies, " I knew you'd

> say that. " " So why did you ask, if you knew I'd say no? " " Just to

be

> sure, Mommy. Just to be sure. "

>

> LOL,

> Meira

April 5, 2007

LOL.

> >

> > HAPPY PASSOVER!!!!

> >

> > ( ) Re: Won't take no for an answer...

> >

> > Absolutely UNbelievable. As I'm reading this post, calls

> > over to me, " Can I have a chocolate macaroon (Passover cookie)

for

> > breakfast please? " I say, " Umm, no. " Trying to supress the

> giggles as

> > I read here about the Oreo cookies. And she replies, " I knew

you'd

> > say that. " " So why did you ask, if you knew I'd say no? " " Just

to

> be

> > sure, Mommy. Just to be sure. "

> >

> > LOL,

> > Meira

>

April 5, 2007

No need to be scared.

Your daughter is who she is.

To give her a label is just a way of getting support and services.

She's still the same little girl you've always known and loved.

Just, now, the way her brain ticks, it makes a little more sense to

you.

Huge hugs,

Meira

> >>>>

> >>>> Along a similar line, do any of your kids bombard you with

> >>> questions?

> >>>> My daughter will ask something so quickly and about a gazillion

> >>> times

> >>>> before I even can catch a lung full of air to answer her.

> >>>> I have to constantly remind her to only ask something ONCE and

> >>> then

> >>>> WAIT for an answer. It's like she's badgering me with the

> > question

> >>>> before I can possibly respond.

> >>>>

> >>>> Newbie Marcia

> >>>>

> >

April 5, 2007

lmbo!

I think mine would just keep trying to guess. " Is it two times? Three times?

Oh! Oh! I know! It's *four* times! It's four times isn't it momma? Mhmnmm I

know it is! Just tell us! You know I'm right! " ....etc.,

-Jenn, AEP (ADD, Bi-Polar, Anxiety/Depression)

Proud Momma of Cory Albert (14yrs ADHD), h Dawn (12yrs

Anxiety/Depression)

and Jerry Lee " Trey " (9yrs ADHD, Bi-Polar, Asperger's)

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