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>From: " Bren " <TwisterAlley2@w...>

>Date: Sun Sep 7, 2003 8:17 am

>Subject: Re: enough sleep- Larry works the graveyard shift

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>That's why he's up and taking his LDN at those hours.

:-)

I figured that might be the case. What I said about sleep, I stand

by, since how can LDN work if you're not asleep producing endorphins?

BTW all my acute attacks have been evident as soon as I woke up and

not when I went to sleep the night before. Coincidence?

-Sullivan

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I don't have insomnia. I >could< sleep, easily, a lot probably. If left alone, I could probably stay in bed for 10-12-16 hours. Doesn't make me feel any better though. So I don't let the clock or the calendar rule. More often than not I have to force myself to stop what I'm doing and go to sleep. And I listen when the body says "ok, enough, let's sleep".

I can live on naps (45-90-180 mins, depending on availability and body's desire), I can live on 3-5 hour sleep with a supplemental nap, and when it fits in, I get a good 5-7, sometimes 8-10 to bridge the gaps. What is "enough" sleep? During a normal work week (12-8am), I have to wake up 11:30PM, so that's my wake up time... I usually get to sleep before 7:30pm, it used to be earlier, but as the years went on it kept getting later and later.

On weekends I have no schedule. Friday's are usually 28 hour days, 11:30pm Thu til after 2AM Sat. But it varies, I'm getting used to LDN the last few months, so a lot of my schedule/pattern has changed. I don't know what I Must do, I only know what I've been doing since 1985 when I first started working 12-8am most of the time. And since LDN I'm just playing it by ear and experimenting.

in·som·ni·a n. Chronic inability to fall asleep or remain asleep for an adequate length of time.

I don't have usually have a problem falling asleep. And I don't have a problem staying asleep, if time allows for it.

This week was a rare week, Wed I got 9 hours, Thu I got 9 hours and Fri I got 8 hours. Usually I just have 1 day a week with more than 7 or 8 hours.

----- Original Message -----

From: "jchrissullivan" <chris_sullivan@...>

<low dose naltrexone >

Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 11:09

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] enough sleep

> I find it a *must* to get enough sleep. I don't take sleeping pills> as a regular thing but when things get out of whack because of> insomnia, I do. If I don't get enough sleep it is just like (or> worse than) getting too hot. Also, keep up the fuel supply. If I> miss eating, different problems, but lots of them.> > So Larry, if you don't want to end up backtracking, stop staying> up till 3AM! (unless of course you follow it with the usual 8hrs)> > I think a regular sleep pattern is key to avoiding insomnia. That's> why 1 or 2 nights of "aided" sleep is what I use, until I am back> on track.> -Sullivan>

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Good question. That's why I asked it back in April.

If I have to work on a night shift, for example from midnight to 8a.m., at what time should I take my LDN?

Continue to take LDN as recommended above; i.e., between 9pm and 3am. This relates to the fact that the endorphins for each day are always produced in the pre-dawn hours, regardless of the hours when one is awake or sleeping

Waking up with problems is usually the case. When you walk too much, you feel it after sleeping. When you bang yourself, even if you're in pain, when you wake up after some sleep, you really feel it. After a car accident, you think you're fine, but the next day you wake up sore all over. Not sure that has to do with sun-cycle related factors, but when you sleep, the body checks out what's going on and sends in the repair crews, hence the problem when waking up that wasn't there before going to sleep.

----- Original Message -----

From: "jchrissullivan" <chris_sullivan@...>

<low dose naltrexone >

Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 11:44

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] enough sleep

> >From: "Bren" <TwisterAlley2@w...> > >Date: Sun Sep 7, 2003 8:17 am> >Subject: Re: enough sleep- Larry works the graveyard shift> >> >That's why he's up and taking his LDN at those hours.> > :-)> > I figured that might be the case. What I said about sleep, I stand> by, since how can LDN work if you're not asleep producing endorphins?> > BTW all my acute attacks have been evident as soon as I woke up and> not when I went to sleep the night before. Coincidence?

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