Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 As soon as get my new to me trailer all set up. (The big hold up is the power company in Maine. Central Maine Power wants $6500 in advance to put in two poles so I can have electricity. My trailer is next a the road with power lines!) I will be putting in a 1000 watt metal halide grow light in my living room. I will have to be careful not get a sunburn! That will give me the necessary ultraviolet and brightness to stay healthy. I plan to have it run about 12 hours a day. turning off about 8 Pm. My indoor salad garden will be wonderful! Too bad, only the plants will enjoy it during the day, I work full time. Thank God for LDN, I was close to going on disability! Fatigue was getting very bad and my thinking was declining, Near normal now! B. ----- Original Message ----- From: sally chrisman low dose naltrexone Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 7:35 PM Subject: Fw: [low dose naltrexone] Re: talk - i'm listening ----- Original Message ----- From: Sullivan Yes we are treating MS, not IBS, but it's the same drug and the same dose range and Pain Therapeutics just wanted to make *sure* it worked for most people. Can you pass him the message about weight dependence? Maybe that's why diet works: it makes our bodies need less endorphin, which we know we do have less of than normal people. -Sullivan -----Original Message-----From: LarryGC [mailto:larrygc@...]Sent: October 1, 2003 2:53 PMjchrissullivanSubject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: talk - i'm listening Only 1.5? I thought it's supposed to be 1.75 to 5 mg range? Maybe you're just teasing your body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Tom, I totally understand about the lights. Husband got many clear light bulbs for christmas because he thought that was the best. I will keep the pink ones in mind if these don't work. There have been many nights that my daughter and I sat in silence and with out lights because the light bothered Wade. I believe in the begining that we also tried imitrix and it had no impact. Of course this was before the diagnosis of lyme. Our lyme doc. suggested a treatment in his neck. He would shoot glucose water into the nerve of the neck. I guess it has been effective. The problem was that it was 240 shots at 50 dollars a shot. This was for one treatment. Thend would have to go back and get two more treatments. Of course as most cases the lyme doctor is subscribed to insurance so it is cash up front. That seems to be the biggest barrier for us with treatment. Thank god they still cover the meds. honey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 > I work for the Red Cross and we had two blood drives this week. The room > had fluorescent lights. My burning and fatigue have been awful since > working there. I was wondering if it could be from the lights. What do > you guys do when this happens and your symptoms get worse? I've also got florescent lights at work. Above my desk, I've actually unscrewed a couple of them (which may not be possible for everyone to do, but it certainly works!). Failing that, I use items from Quantum Products. A power strip plugged into a nearby outlet may be helpful, and a Quantum Home/Pro helps even more for the really bad cases. If you cannot plug something into the outlets, then a portable Quantum Companion in your pocket may help (and two of these would help even more). I've tried a lot of EMF protection devices, and not very many have proven to be useful for a room full of florescent lights. Quantum Products are one of the few things that work for me. Of course, everyone is different, and what worked for me may not work for you, and what didn't work for me might work for you. I can't think of too many foods/supplements that are very helpful (to me) for florescent lights. Mega-H powder, Amrit, eggs, avocado all help a little, but not enough to make a huge difference. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 It's not the lights that are the problem, but is the EMR-producing electronic ballast circuitry that's inside the light fixtures. Interesting that unscrewing the lights stops this. Would that disengage the ballasts I wonder? Lankes > I've also got florescent lights at work. Above my desk, I've actually > unscrewed a couple of them (which may not be possible for everyone > to do, but it certainly works!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Is it really proven that the circuitry is the problem? It's a likely cause, but I doubt that it has been systematically investigated in isolation from other factors. For example, several studies show that ES reactions often depend on the particular frequency. So the problem with fluorescent lights (and low energy light bulbs) could be that they produce a wider range of frequencies than a normal incandescent bulb, including more in the region which people react to. Powerwatch measured higher RF effects from fluorescent tubes than standard bulbs. Ian _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of johnlankes Sent: 24 August 2006 18:17 Subject: Re: lights It's not the lights that are the problem, but is the EMR-producing electronic ballast circuitry that's inside the light fixtures. Interesting that unscrewing the lights stops this. Would that disengage the ballasts I wonder? Lankes > I've also got florescent lights at work. Above my desk, I've actually > unscrewed a couple of them (which may not be possible for everyone > to do, but it certainly works!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 With ES symptoms occurring with even the low energy mercury bulbs this could point to reaction from resonance. Since a portion of fluorescent bulb EMR is from excited mercury vapor perhaps people with deposits of mercury in their bodies could have those deposits excited into sympathetic vibration. If those deposits are on or in the nerves you'd have those nerves being stimulated. I haven't seen any studies on this but I think reacting to the " mercury " quality of the fluorescent EMR may be a large factor for some. -B > > > I've also got florescent lights at work. Above my desk, I've actually > > unscrewed a couple of them (which may not be possible for everyone > > to do, but it certainly works!). > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Thanks, this does fit the symptoms for some people I know, but one thing that has puzzled me before is why is there mercury vapour in fluorescent lights? Ian _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of bbin37 Sent: 29 August 2006 02:05 Subject: Re: lights With ES symptoms occurring with even the low energy mercury bulbs this could point to reaction from resonance. Since a portion of fluorescent bulb EMR is from excited mercury vapor perhaps people with deposits of mercury in their bodies could have those deposits excited into sympathetic vibration. If those deposits are on or in the nerves you'd have those nerves being stimulated. I haven't seen any studies on this but I think reacting to the " mercury " quality of the fluorescent EMR may be a large factor for some. -B > > > I've also got florescent lights at work. Above my desk, I've actually > > unscrewed a couple of them (which may not be possible for everyone > > to do, but it certainly works!). > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Hi Ian: Although some sectors of the flurosescent bulb manufacturing industry are trying to move away from using mercury in such bulbs due to regulatory pressure, it has been used in small amounts for many years in most fluorescent bulbs because mercury vapor -- i.e., in a gaseous form -- tends to fill the interior of the bulb at room temperature, and this metallic vapor readily ionizes in the presence of an applied electrical field, and thus facilitates easier lighting of the bulb from cold start and also facilitates lighting of the bulb at a lower voltage than would normally be needed (a relatively high voltage is briefly needed to fire up a fluorescent bulb at startup.) And, speaking as an ex-EE and as a scientist, yes, fluorescent bulbs tend to emit far more RF-range EMF than incandescent bulbs and for several reasons: 1) the solid state circuitry used in most modern low-wattage fluorescent bulbs sold as replacements for incandescent bulbs tend to emit a fair amount of " noise " ; actual amount will depend upon design and construction techniques. 2) a fluoresecent bulb, much like a neon bulb, consists of an electrical discharge through a plasma -- that is, through hot excited gases -- and such plasmas, particularly when under AC electrical excitation (as in such a bulb as we are discussing), are very " noisy " , that is, they tend to radiate an EMF signal at a wide range of freqencies ranging from low audio range through the RF range to perhaps high VHF range or low UHF range. Such plasmas and their non-classical radiations are often considered desirable when designing and constructing a device such as a Rife plasma Beam Ray device (where the excitation frequencies are carefully controlled and modulated). 3) Further, such chaotic plasmas in fluorsecent bulbs as considered in item 2 above are widely considered by many to convert a small portion of this rather chaotic and incoherent noise energy into a so-called scalar or subtle energy form rather than emitting it all as classical or traditional Hertzian EMF wavesand heat and light. Many folks feel that humans and other life forms are uniquely sensitive to such chaotic noise energy emitted in the form of such non-Hertzian or non-classical fields, and that these chaotic non-Hertzian or non-classical fields can cause disruption of bioenergy systems (including the various levels of chi [aka qi] or prana) within the biofield. with care, --Vinny At 09:40 PM 8/28/2006, you wrote: >Thanks, this does fit the symptoms for some people I know, but one thing >that has puzzled >me before is why is there mercury vapour in fluorescent lights? >Ian > > _____ > >From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of >bbin37 >Sent: 29 August 2006 02:05 > >Subject: Re: lights > > > >With ES symptoms occurring with even the low energy mercury bulbs this >could point to reaction from resonance. Since a portion of >fluorescent bulb EMR is from excited mercury vapor perhaps people with >deposits of mercury in their bodies could have those deposits excited >into sympathetic vibration. If those deposits are on or in the nerves >you'd have those nerves being stimulated. I haven't seen any studies >on this but I think reacting to the " mercury " quality of the >fluorescent EMR may be a large factor for some. > >-B > > > > > Is it really proven that the circuitry is the problem? It's a >likely cause, > > but I doubt that it has been systematically investigated in >isolation from > > other factors. For example, several studies show that ES reactions >often > > depend on the particular frequency. So the problem with fluorescent >lights > > (and low energy light bulbs) could be that they produce a wider range of > > frequencies than a normal incandescent bulb, including more in the >region > > which people react to. Powerwatch measured higher RF effects from > > fluorescent tubes than standard bulbs. > > Ian Vinny Pinto vinny@... phone 301-694-1249 To see my informational websites and e-mail list groups, please go to: http://www.vinnypinto.us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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