Re: 10 year old autistic arrested at school

[Guest guest]

Sherry!

CALL THE MEDIA! Call CNN, Grace, anyone do it

now! How shocking is this that a kid that is known to

be autistic has been treated this way?????

You need to get some experts on your side and you need

a good lawyer - this story could blow up back on them.

Don't sit there and take this - how dare they not call

you to tell you there was problem in the first place?

And as for the councillor? Where did she get her

licence out of a Weeties packet?

Go to war on this, don't roll over, your son needs you

more than ever now.

God Bless You!

a

--- Sherry Hudson <s1hudson@...> wrote:

> Well, I must say this has been the worst week of my

> life. Our 10 year

> old Asperger's son was at the after school program

> at his school on

> Monday. Normally, he doesn't attend the after

> school program, only

> the morning program. However, they had 1/2 days M-W

> and then T-F were

> fall break. Anyway, I sent him to the after school

> program because I

> don't have many days left to take off from work. By

> the way, the

> employees of this 'daycare' at school know our son

> is autistic.

>

> These bright people at the after school program

> decide to do a pinata

> and give these kids big bags of candy. Yeah, that's

> what a bunch of

> cooped up kids need, a pinata to whack on, and then

> gobs of candy.

> Oh, but they're not allowed to eat the candy until

> they go home, they

> just get to carry it around.

>

> Well, as I'm sure you all can guess, some girl took

> my son's candy and

> was teasing him. He asked her for the candy, but

> she wouldn't give it

> back so he pushed her. Needless to say, he got the

> time out, but not

> her. They wouldn't even listen to him about why he

> was upset. He was

> crying and talking to them trying to explain. They

> didn't listen.

>

> During this very short time out, he never got to

> tell them what was

> wrong, so he never calmed down. When he came back

> from time out, he

> took his candy bag and whacked this girl upside the

> head with it and

> told her to leave him alone. As we all know,

> Aspie's are so literal

> and do not ever understand why anyone is picking on

> them. They just

> know they need to make it stop and they don't

> usually ask for help.

>

> That got the after school 'camp counselor' upset

> with him again and

> When she approached him about it he was scared and

> angry with her and

> swung his arm out. He hit her in the face with the

> back of his hand.

> She called us to come pick him up and then she

> called the school

> police. The school police called the county

> sheriff(which they say

> is 'policy'), and they arrested this 10 year old

> little boy.

>

> They charged him with 2 counts of battery, 1 count

> of disorderly

> conduct, & 1 count of resisting law enforcement.

> The last 2 charges

> were because he lay down on the floor and was crying

> because he was

> scared. They took him to the juvenile facility and

> kept him chained

> to a bench with 15, 16, & 17 year old kids. We

> waited for 5 hours for

> them to release him. When these other kids were

> coming out

> of 'lockup', all we heard about was this little boy

> in there crying.

>

> We are making him responsible for his actions - it's

> NEVER ok to hit,

> he has to tell an adult, etc - and we had planned to

> punish him

> ourselves. I just can't believe this would escalate

> to the point that

> anyone would ever think its ok to arrest a 10 year

> old child!

>

> My husband arrived in time for them to walk him out

> and put him in the

> paddy wagon. It nearly broke him in two to see

> that.

>

> I've never been so afraid, angry, and sad at the

> same time, ever. The

> probation officers at the juvenile facility said

> none of them could

> believe that he got arrested. The arresting officer

> was told he was

> autistic, but his arrest report didn't even mention

> it so the juvenile

> facility didn't know until we told them!

>

> Well, now it's in the prosecutor's hands. We'll

> know Monday if they

> intend to drop the charges or proceed.

>

> We need prayers and we need help. Does anyone have

> any ideas on how

> we should proceed?

>

> This shameful incident occurred in n County

> (Indianapolis)

> Indiana.

>

> Thank you for listening to my long story.

> Sherry

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

OMG what a week sherry. This should not have escalated and

clearly 'daycare " does NOT understand your son; so he should not return

there.

I agree get a special needs lawyer involved. Their policy is not

acceptable for Autism kids or special needs kids. I would start are

www.wrightslaw.com or www.pacer.org

Keep us posted as how things progress. I'm interested as I could see

same circumstances with my 5yo-luckily he's in a private school that

understands ASD but what'll happen in K-12?

-Ann (Minneapolis, MN)

[Guest guest]

((((Sherry)))),

I dont have any advice, but you are in my thoughts and

prayers...

--- Sherry Hudson <s1hudson@...> wrote:

> Well, I must say this has been the worst week of my

> life.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

WOW! I just can't believe it even escalated to that! My prayer's are with you. I

can't imagine my little guy going through something like that.

Sherry Hudson <s1hudson@...> wrote: Well, I must say this has

been the worst week of my life. Our 10 year

old Asperger's son was at the after school program at his school on

Monday. Normally, he doesn't attend the after school program, only

the morning program. However, they had 1/2 days M-W and then T-F were

fall break. Anyway, I sent him to the after school program because I

don't have many days left to take off from work. By the way, the

employees of this 'daycare' at school know our son is autistic.

These bright people at the after school program decide to do a pinata

and give these kids big bags of candy. Yeah, that's what a bunch of

cooped up kids need, a pinata to whack on, and then gobs of candy.

Oh, but they're not allowed to eat the candy until they go home, they

just get to carry it around.

Well, as I'm sure you all can guess, some girl took my son's candy and

was teasing him. He asked her for the candy, but she wouldn't give it

back so he pushed her. Needless to say, he got the time out, but not

her. They wouldn't even listen to him about why he was upset. He was

crying and talking to them trying to explain. They didn't listen.

During this very short time out, he never got to tell them what was

wrong, so he never calmed down. When he came back from time out, he

took his candy bag and whacked this girl upside the head with it and

told her to leave him alone. As we all know, Aspie's are so literal

and do not ever understand why anyone is picking on them. They just

know they need to make it stop and they don't usually ask for help.

That got the after school 'camp counselor' upset with him again and

When she approached him about it he was scared and angry with her and

swung his arm out. He hit her in the face with the back of his hand.

She called us to come pick him up and then she called the school

police. The school police called the county sheriff(which they say

is 'policy'), and they arrested this 10 year old little boy.

They charged him with 2 counts of battery, 1 count of disorderly

conduct, & 1 count of resisting law enforcement. The last 2 charges

were because he lay down on the floor and was crying because he was

scared. They took him to the juvenile facility and kept him chained

to a bench with 15, 16, & 17 year old kids. We waited for 5 hours for

them to release him. When these other kids were coming out

of 'lockup', all we heard about was this little boy in there crying.

We are making him responsible for his actions - it's NEVER ok to hit,

he has to tell an adult, etc - and we had planned to punish him

ourselves. I just can't believe this would escalate to the point that

anyone would ever think its ok to arrest a 10 year old child!

My husband arrived in time for them to walk him out and put him in the

paddy wagon. It nearly broke him in two to see that.

I've never been so afraid, angry, and sad at the same time, ever. The

probation officers at the juvenile facility said none of them could

believe that he got arrested. The arresting officer was told he was

autistic, but his arrest report didn't even mention it so the juvenile

facility didn't know until we told them!

Well, now it's in the prosecutor's hands. We'll know Monday if they

intend to drop the charges or proceed.

We need prayers and we need help. Does anyone have any ideas on how

we should proceed?

This shameful incident occurred in n County (Indianapolis)

Indiana.

Thank you for listening to my long story.

Sherry

[Guest guest]

This is almost exactly what happened to my friend's son out in Iowa last spring.

He was

10 years old, has AS, got worked up over something else, hit the principal, and

got

arrested and hauled off in handcuffs. They had to go into court the next week

for a

preliminary hearing. Before that even happened, somebody interviewed them and

told

them that, with a known autistic spectrum diagnosis in the picture, the arrest

should never

have happened. They never even saw the judge. The charges were dropped and

that was

the end of it. I hope things go that way for your son. I also hope that

someday soon

school officials will stop making such stupid decisions.

Sue C.

That got the after school 'camp counselor' upset with him again and

When she approached him about it he was scared and angry with her and

swung his arm out. He hit her in the face with the back of his hand.

She called us to come pick him up and then she called the school

police. The school police called the county sheriff(which they say

is 'policy'), and they arrested this 10 year old little boy.>

[Guest guest]

We've removed him from this so called 'day care camp' and placed him

in a private home day care for before school care. I have to be at

work at 7:30A and his school doesn't start until 9:20A! So he's in

morning care for about 2 hours. The day care provider worked with

autistic children before and our son seems to like being around

toddlers for a couple hours a day. He's our youngest so he's not

around little kids much. It's very sweet to see him taking on a

mentoring role with little kids.

We're still determining how we're going to proceed. Its a difficult

decision on what we should do. We have to weigh the outrage against

the need to protect him and keep him from spiraling down.(Obviously he

was very traumatized by the whole sorry affair.) Our son has been

seeing the same behavioral pediatrician for 5 years. So after the

arrest we immediately made another appointment for the next day. The

specialist doubled his dose of anxiety medication. He fully believes

this will help with the impulsivity and angry outbursts.

I'll keep you all posted. Thank you very much for the advice and the

prayers. Keep praying that the prosecutor will drop the charges.

We'll find out Monday.

Sherry

>

> OMG what a week sherry. This should not have escalated and

> clearly 'daycare " does NOT understand your son; so he should not return

> there.

>

> I agree get a special needs lawyer involved. Their policy is not

> acceptable for Autism kids or special needs kids. I would start are

> www.wrightslaw.com or www.pacer.org

>

> Keep us posted as how things progress. I'm interested as I could see

> same circumstances with my 5yo-luckily he's in a private school that

> understands ASD but what'll happen in K-12?

>

> -Ann (Minneapolis, MN)

>

[Guest guest]

I am so outraged by this story that my head is exploding. Where were

they when the girl took his candy? No supervision? Why wouldn't they

listen to him? These are people working with children? If they know

your son is autistic what special provisions did they take to avoid

this situation? I would get a lawyer with my last dime and sue all of

them. I would not leave my child with people that were not fully in

understanding of his issues. Those people sound terrible and they

need to be held accountable for their lack of professonalism and

ignorance. If they allow children with autism into the program they

have to be able to handle his issues appropriately. I would have

prychiatric services as part of the suit for the trauma that your son

hasd to endure. What a horrific tragedy. I am soo sorry for your

family.

Good luck with this

Debbie

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/19/2006 9:44:39 AM Eastern Standard Time,

s1hudson@... writes:

This shameful incident occurred in n County (Indianapolis)

Indiana.

I would recommend contacting you local protection and advocacy office. See

the information below. They can help you figure out if you have a case that

would involve a lawsuit against the school department and police department

for violating your son's civil rights based on the fact that he is a child

with a disability.

Gallagher, Executive Director

Indiana Protection and Advocacy Services

4701 N. Keystone Avenue

Indianapolis, IN 46205

(317) 722-5555

(800) 622-4845; (800) 838-1131 (TTY)

E-mail: _ipas@..._ (mailto:ipas@...)

[Guest guest]

I don't know how anyone else has responded, but I have

been through this with my son several times in this

area where I am living and in this school district.

Each time the charges were dropped. The prosecuter

said he cannot prosecute a case he cannot win because

the child is not responsible for his actions due to

his disabilities-namely asperger's autism. So don't

fret over this too much. Get all of your medical

records together, pshyc records and evals together,

get a rep. from your area autism society or IMPACT

agency to go with you to the hearing and talk to the

prosecuter and I am sure this will be a horrible

experience in History for you.

God Bless,

Cyndy

--- Sherry Hudson <s1hudson@...> wrote:

> Well, I must say this has been the worst week of my

> life. Our 10 year

> old Asperger's son was at the after school program

> at his school on

> Monday. Normally, he doesn't attend the after

> school program, only

> the morning program. However, they had 1/2 days M-W

> and then T-F were

> fall break. Anyway, I sent him to the after school

> program because I

> don't have many days left to take off from work. By

> the way, the

> employees of this 'daycare' at school know our son

> is autistic.

>

> These bright people at the after school program

> decide to do a pinata

> and give these kids big bags of candy. Yeah, that's

> what a bunch of

> cooped up kids need, a pinata to whack on, and then

> gobs of candy.

> Oh, but they're not allowed to eat the candy until

> they go home, they

> just get to carry it around.

>

> Well, as I'm sure you all can guess, some girl took

> my son's candy and

> was teasing him. He asked her for the candy, but

> she wouldn't give it

> back so he pushed her. Needless to say, he got the

> time out, but not

> her. They wouldn't even listen to him about why he

> was upset. He was

> crying and talking to them trying to explain. They

> didn't listen.

>

> During this very short time out, he never got to

> tell them what was

> wrong, so he never calmed down. When he came back

> from time out, he

> took his candy bag and whacked this girl upside the

> head with it and

> told her to leave him alone. As we all know,

> Aspie's are so literal

> and do not ever understand why anyone is picking on

> them. They just

> know they need to make it stop and they don't

> usually ask for help.

>

> That got the after school 'camp counselor' upset

> with him again and

> When she approached him about it he was scared and

> angry with her and

> swung his arm out. He hit her in the face with the

> back of his hand.

> She called us to come pick him up and then she

> called the school

> police. The school police called the county

> sheriff(which they say

> is 'policy'), and they arrested this 10 year old

> little boy.

>

> They charged him with 2 counts of battery, 1 count

> of disorderly

> conduct, & 1 count of resisting law enforcement.

> The last 2 charges

> were because he lay down on the floor and was crying

> because he was

> scared. They took him to the juvenile facility and

> kept him chained

> to a bench with 15, 16, & 17 year old kids. We

> waited for 5 hours for

> them to release him. When these other kids were

> coming out

> of 'lockup', all we heard about was this little boy

> in there crying.

>

> We are making him responsible for his actions - it's

> NEVER ok to hit,

> he has to tell an adult, etc - and we had planned to

> punish him

> ourselves. I just can't believe this would escalate

> to the point that

> anyone would ever think its ok to arrest a 10 year

> old child!

>

> My husband arrived in time for them to walk him out

> and put him in the

> paddy wagon. It nearly broke him in two to see

> that.

>

> I've never been so afraid, angry, and sad at the

> same time, ever. The

> probation officers at the juvenile facility said

> none of them could

> believe that he got arrested. The arresting officer

> was told he was

> autistic, but his arrest report didn't even mention

> it so the juvenile

> facility didn't know until we told them!

>

> Well, now it's in the prosecutor's hands. We'll

> know Monday if they

> intend to drop the charges or proceed.

>

> We need prayers and we need help. Does anyone have

> any ideas on how

> we should proceed?

>

> This shameful incident occurred in n County

> (Indianapolis)

> Indiana.

>

> Thank you for listening to my long story.

> Sherry

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

Cyndy

[Guest guest]

Good Lord!!! How traumatic, for your son and for you, as parents!

That's just horrific.

If a court date actually comes of this, I hope any judge the case

comes before has a brain in his head and dismisses it!

You might try contacting the prosecuting attorney and showing him

your documentation with your son's autism. It's ridiculous that this

even happened.

Sending positive thoughts your way,

Nikki

>

> Well, I must say this has been the worst week of my life. Our 10

year

> old Asperger's son was at the after school program at his school

on

> Monday. Normally, he doesn't attend the after school program,

only

> the morning program. However, they had 1/2 days M-W and then T-F

were

> fall break. Anyway, I sent him to the after school program

because I

> don't have many days left to take off from work. By the way, the

> employees of this 'daycare' at school know our son is autistic.

>

> These bright people at the after school program decide to do a

pinata

> and give these kids big bags of candy. Yeah, that's what a bunch

of

> cooped up kids need, a pinata to whack on, and then gobs of

candy.

> Oh, but they're not allowed to eat the candy until they go home,

they

> just get to carry it around.

>

> Well, as I'm sure you all can guess, some girl took my son's candy

and

> was teasing him. He asked her for the candy, but she wouldn't

give it

> back so he pushed her. Needless to say, he got the time out, but

not

> her. They wouldn't even listen to him about why he was upset. He

was

> crying and talking to them trying to explain. They didn't

listen.

>

> During this very short time out, he never got to tell them what

was

> wrong, so he never calmed down. When he came back from time out,

he

> took his candy bag and whacked this girl upside the head with it

and

> told her to leave him alone. As we all know, Aspie's are so

literal

> and do not ever understand why anyone is picking on them. They

just

> know they need to make it stop and they don't usually ask for

help.

>

> That got the after school 'camp counselor' upset with him again

and

> When she approached him about it he was scared and angry with her

and

> swung his arm out. He hit her in the face with the back of his

hand.

> She called us to come pick him up and then she called the school

> police. The school police called the county sheriff(which they

say

> is 'policy'), and they arrested this 10 year old little boy.

>

> They charged him with 2 counts of battery, 1 count of disorderly

> conduct, & 1 count of resisting law enforcement. The last 2

charges

> were because he lay down on the floor and was crying because he

was

> scared. They took him to the juvenile facility and kept him

chained

> to a bench with 15, 16, & 17 year old kids. We waited for 5 hours

for

> them to release him. When these other kids were coming out

> of 'lockup', all we heard about was this little boy in there

crying.

>

> We are making him responsible for his actions - it's NEVER ok to

hit,

> he has to tell an adult, etc - and we had planned to punish him

> ourselves. I just can't believe this would escalate to the point

that

> anyone would ever think its ok to arrest a 10 year old child!

>

> My husband arrived in time for them to walk him out and put him in

the

> paddy wagon. It nearly broke him in two to see that.

>

> I've never been so afraid, angry, and sad at the same time, ever.

The

> probation officers at the juvenile facility said none of them

could

> believe that he got arrested. The arresting officer was told he

was

> autistic, but his arrest report didn't even mention it so the

juvenile

> facility didn't know until we told them!

>

> Well, now it's in the prosecutor's hands. We'll know Monday if

they

> intend to drop the charges or proceed.

>

> We need prayers and we need help. Does anyone have any ideas on

how

> we should proceed?

>

> This shameful incident occurred in n County (Indianapolis)

> Indiana.

>

> Thank you for listening to my long story.

> Sherry

>

[Guest guest]

-Sherry, I am so sorry to hear you are all going through this. Your

family will be in my prayers. Dee, Arlington Texas

>

[Guest guest]

I would suggest contacting ARC or the Autism Society, etc for help in

defending your son. It's a little too late to show up Monday in front of a

judge without representation or help to be informed that they want to make

an example out of your son. You need advice on how to proceded. ie- do you

need to bring all his paper work showing the ASD on school letter head (such

as IEP) to prove the school knew of his condition. Do you need to bring

your son's behav psych to document for the court the diagnosis and the

impact on his condition that the schools mishandling of the situation

caused. It's a little too late after your there to wish you had more

information on how to proceed.

Stef

[Guest guest]

Same thing happened to us about 5 months ago and we hired an

attorney who specializes in disabilities----some will do it for free-

--REALLY!

Anyway we proved with dr's notes that the disability was the reason

for the action. Felt we could have done this without the lawyer too

especially since we had interesting circumstances leading up to

his " meltdown " and I have threatened to countersuit as it was insane

to sue a disabled child who is 10 yrs old

Feel free to e-mail me

R.A.

> >

> > Well, I must say this has been the worst week of my life. Our

10

> year

> > old Asperger's son was at the after school program at his school

> on

> > Monday. Normally, he doesn't attend the after school program,

> only

> > the morning program. However, they had 1/2 days M-W and then T-

F

> were

> > fall break. Anyway, I sent him to the after school program

> because I

> > don't have many days left to take off from work. By the way,

the

> > employees of this 'daycare' at school know our son is autistic.

> >

> > These bright people at the after school program decide to do a

> pinata

> > and give these kids big bags of candy. Yeah, that's what a

bunch

> of

> > cooped up kids need, a pinata to whack on, and then gobs of

> candy.

> > Oh, but they're not allowed to eat the candy until they go home,

> they

> > just get to carry it around.

> >

> > Well, as I'm sure you all can guess, some girl took my son's

candy

> and

> > was teasing him. He asked her for the candy, but she wouldn't

> give it

> > back so he pushed her. Needless to say, he got the time out,

but

> not

> > her. They wouldn't even listen to him about why he was upset.

He

> was

> > crying and talking to them trying to explain. They didn't

> listen.

> >

> > During this very short time out, he never got to tell them what

> was

> > wrong, so he never calmed down. When he came back from time

out,

> he

> > took his candy bag and whacked this girl upside the head with it

> and

> > told her to leave him alone. As we all know, Aspie's are so

> literal

> > and do not ever understand why anyone is picking on them. They

> just

> > know they need to make it stop and they don't usually ask for

> help.

> >

> > That got the after school 'camp counselor' upset with him again

> and

> > When she approached him about it he was scared and angry with

her

> and

> > swung his arm out. He hit her in the face with the back of his

> hand.

> > She called us to come pick him up and then she called the school

> > police. The school police called the county sheriff(which they

> say

> > is 'policy'), and they arrested this 10 year old little boy.

> >

> > They charged him with 2 counts of battery, 1 count of disorderly

> > conduct, & 1 count of resisting law enforcement. The last 2

> charges

> > were because he lay down on the floor and was crying because he

> was

> > scared. They took him to the juvenile facility and kept him

> chained

> > to a bench with 15, 16, & 17 year old kids. We waited for 5

hours

> for

> > them to release him. When these other kids were coming out

> > of 'lockup', all we heard about was this little boy in there

> crying.

> >

> > We are making him responsible for his actions - it's NEVER ok to

> hit,

> > he has to tell an adult, etc - and we had planned to punish him

> > ourselves. I just can't believe this would escalate to the

point

> that

> > anyone would ever think its ok to arrest a 10 year old child!

> >

> > My husband arrived in time for them to walk him out and put him

in

> the

> > paddy wagon. It nearly broke him in two to see that.

> >

> > I've never been so afraid, angry, and sad at the same time,

ever.

> The

> > probation officers at the juvenile facility said none of them

> could

> > believe that he got arrested. The arresting officer was told he

> was

> > autistic, but his arrest report didn't even mention it so the

> juvenile

> > facility didn't know until we told them!

> >

> > Well, now it's in the prosecutor's hands. We'll know Monday if

> they

> > intend to drop the charges or proceed.

> >

> > We need prayers and we need help. Does anyone have any ideas on

> how

> > we should proceed?

> >

> > This shameful incident occurred in n County (Indianapolis)

> > Indiana.

> >

> > Thank you for listening to my long story.

> > Sherry

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I am interested to know what school this is because they almost

called the son on my police at fall creek valley and he has autism as

well. Its in his IEP. Well I know they really don't know how to

handle things. Please let me know if this is the same school. My son

is 12.

Thanks,

Me

>

> Well, I must say this has been the worst week of my life. Our 10

year

> old Asperger's son was at the after school program at his school on

> Monday. Normally, he doesn't attend the after school program, only

> the morning program. However, they had 1/2 days M-W and then T-F

were

> fall break. Anyway, I sent him to the after school program because

I

> don't have many days left to take off from work. By the way, the

> employees of this 'daycare' at school know our son is autistic.

>

> These bright people at the after school program decide to do a

pinata

> and give these kids big bags of candy. Yeah, that's what a bunch

of

> cooped up kids need, a pinata to whack on, and then gobs of candy.

> Oh, but they're not allowed to eat the candy until they go home,

they

> just get to carry it around.

>

> Well, as I'm sure you all can guess, some girl took my son's candy

and

> was teasing him. He asked her for the candy, but she wouldn't give

it

> back so he pushed her. Needless to say, he got the time out, but

not

> her. They wouldn't even listen to him about why he was upset. He

was

> crying and talking to them trying to explain. They didn't listen.

>

> During this very short time out, he never got to tell them what was

> wrong, so he never calmed down. When he came back from time out,

he

> took his candy bag and whacked this girl upside the head with it

and

> told her to leave him alone. As we all know, Aspie's are so

literal

> and do not ever understand why anyone is picking on them. They

just

> know they need to make it stop and they don't usually ask for help.

>

> That got the after school 'camp counselor' upset with him again and

> When she approached him about it he was scared and angry with her

and

> swung his arm out. He hit her in the face with the back of his

hand.

> She called us to come pick him up and then she called the school

> police. The school police called the county sheriff(which they say

> is 'policy'), and they arrested this 10 year old little boy.

>

> They charged him with 2 counts of battery, 1 count of disorderly

> conduct, & 1 count of resisting law enforcement. The last 2

charges

> were because he lay down on the floor and was crying because he was

> scared. They took him to the juvenile facility and kept him

chained

> to a bench with 15, 16, & 17 year old kids. We waited for 5 hours

for

> them to release him. When these other kids were coming out

> of 'lockup', all we heard about was this little boy in there

crying.

>

> We are making him responsible for his actions - it's NEVER ok to

hit,

> he has to tell an adult, etc - and we had planned to punish him

> ourselves. I just can't believe this would escalate to the point

that

> anyone would ever think its ok to arrest a 10 year old child!

>

> My husband arrived in time for them to walk him out and put him in

the

> paddy wagon. It nearly broke him in two to see that.

>

> I've never been so afraid, angry, and sad at the same time, ever.

The

> probation officers at the juvenile facility said none of them could

> believe that he got arrested. The arresting officer was told he

was

> autistic, but his arrest report didn't even mention it so the

juvenile

> facility didn't know until we told them!

>

> Well, now it's in the prosecutor's hands. We'll know Monday if

they

> intend to drop the charges or proceed.

>

> We need prayers and we need help. Does anyone have any ideas on

how

> we should proceed?

>

> This shameful incident occurred in n County (Indianapolis)

> Indiana.

>

> Thank you for listening to my long story.

> Sherry

>

[Guest guest]

Sherry, i am just blown away about this story. i have a 10 year old Aspie son

and this is heart breaking to me. My son would of been so upset and terrified

and it would of scarred him for life. I will be praying for your son and you and

your husband. This is a case of people who are simply ignorant about autistic

kids. Shame on this teacher who knew that your son was autistic and did not have

the intelligence to address this situation differently. These kids need people

to listen to them or they will blow. I know, because my son is like that. Hang

in there. Do you have a good lawyer?

Tricia

[Guest guest]

Sherry,

You are certainly in my prayers. This is an awful story of ignorance gone too

far. I hope that common sense prevails in the end and the charges are dropped.

beck

Re: ( ) 10 year old autistic arrested at school

We've removed him from this so called 'day care camp' and placed him

in a private home day care for before school care. I have to be at

work at 7:30A and his school doesn't start until 9:20A! So he's in

morning care for about 2 hours. The day care provider worked with

autistic children before and our son seems to like being around

toddlers for a couple hours a day. He's our youngest so he's not

around little kids much. It's very sweet to see him taking on a

mentoring role with little kids.

We're still determining how we're going to proceed. Its a difficult

decision on what we should do. We have to weigh the outrage against

the need to protect him and keep him from spiraling down.(Obviously he

was very traumatized by the whole sorry affair.) Our son has been

seeing the same behavioral pediatrician for 5 years. So after the

arrest we immediately made another appointment for the next day. The

specialist doubled his dose of anxiety medication. He fully believes

this will help with the impulsivity and angry outbursts.

I'll keep you all posted. Thank you very much for the advice and the

prayers. Keep praying that the prosecutor will drop the charges.

We'll find out Monday.

Sherry

>

> OMG what a week sherry. This should not have escalated and

> clearly 'daycare " does NOT understand your son; so he should not return

> there.

>

> I agree get a special needs lawyer involved. Their policy is not

> acceptable for Autism kids or special needs kids. I would start are

> www.wrightslaw.com or www.pacer.org

>

> Keep us posted as how things progress. I'm interested as I could see

> same circumstances with my 5yo-luckily he's in a private school that

> understands ASD but what'll happen in K-12?

>

> -Ann (Minneapolis, MN)

>

[Guest guest]

Good Grief!!! I must say that they would have had to arrest me as

well because I would have gone totally ballistic if this happened to

my son.

God bless you! I have a 14-year old aspie. When he was in

elementary school (9 years old) he had a meltdown and stabbed a

teacher in the eye with a pencil. She wasn't seriously hurt, but she

did have to go to the hospital. I was very upset that this happened,

but everyone knew he was Asperger's and they implemented appropriate

discipline for him.

My son is now almost 6 feet tall and weighs 190 pounds . . . and,

yes, he still has meltdowns. If this happened to your son at age 10

I can't imagine what they would do to a 14-year old.

My prayers are certainly with you and I hope the best for your son

and your entire family.

> >

> > >

> > > Well, I must say this has been the worst week of my life. Our

> 10

> > year

> > > old Asperger's son was at the after school program at his

school

> > on

> > > Monday. Normally, he doesn't attend the after school program,

> > only

> > > the morning program. However, they had 1/2 days M-W and then T-

> F

> > were

> > > fall break. Anyway, I sent him to the after school program

> > because I

> > > don't have many days left to take off from work. By the way,

> the

> > > employees of this 'daycare' at school know our son is autistic.

> > >

> > > These bright people at the after school program decide to do a

> > pinata

> > > and give these kids big bags of candy. Yeah, that's what a

> bunch

> > of

> > > cooped up kids need, a pinata to whack on, and then gobs of

> > candy.

> > > Oh, but they're not allowed to eat the candy until they go

home,

> > they

> > > just get to carry it around.

> > >

> > > Well, as I'm sure you all can guess, some girl took my son's

> candy

> > and

> > > was teasing him. He asked her for the candy, but she wouldn't

> > give it

> > > back so he pushed her. Needless to say, he got the time out,

> but

> > not

> > > her. They wouldn't even listen to him about why he was upset.

> He

> > was

> > > crying and talking to them trying to explain. They didn't

> > listen.

> > >

> > > During this very short time out, he never got to tell them what

> > was

> > > wrong, so he never calmed down. When he came back from time

> out,

> > he

> > > took his candy bag and whacked this girl upside the head with

it

> > and

> > > told her to leave him alone. As we all know, Aspie's are so

> > literal

> > > and do not ever understand why anyone is picking on them. They

> > just

> > > know they need to make it stop and they don't usually ask for

> > help.

> > >

> > > That got the after school 'camp counselor' upset with him again

> > and

> > > When she approached him about it he was scared and angry with

> her

> > and

> > > swung his arm out. He hit her in the face with the back of his

> > hand.

> > > She called us to come pick him up and then she called the

school

> > > police. The school police called the county sheriff(which they

> > say

> > > is 'policy'), and they arrested this 10 year old little boy.

> > >

> > > They charged him with 2 counts of battery, 1 count of

disorderly

> > > conduct, & 1 count of resisting law enforcement. The last 2

> > charges

> > > were because he lay down on the floor and was crying because he

> > was

> > > scared. They took him to the juvenile facility and kept him

> > chained

> > > to a bench with 15, 16, & 17 year old kids. We waited for 5

> hours

> > for

> > > them to release him. When these other kids were coming out

> > > of 'lockup', all we heard about was this little boy in there

> > crying.

> > >

> > > We are making him responsible for his actions - it's NEVER ok

to

> > hit,

> > > he has to tell an adult, etc - and we had planned to punish him

> > > ourselves. I just can't believe this would escalate to the

> point

> > that

> > > anyone would ever think its ok to arrest a 10 year old child!

> > >

> > > My husband arrived in time for them to walk him out and put him

> in

> > the

> > > paddy wagon. It nearly broke him in two to see that.

> > >

> > > I've never been so afraid, angry, and sad at the same time,

> ever.

> > The

> > > probation officers at the juvenile facility said none of them

> > could

> > > believe that he got arrested. The arresting officer was told

he

> > was

> > > autistic, but his arrest report didn't even mention it so the

> > juvenile

> > > facility didn't know until we told them!

> > >

> > > Well, now it's in the prosecutor's hands. We'll know Monday if

> > they

> > > intend to drop the charges or proceed.

> > >

> > > We need prayers and we need help. Does anyone have any ideas

on

> > how

> > > we should proceed?

> > >

> > > This shameful incident occurred in n County (Indianapolis)

> > > Indiana.

> > >

> > > Thank you for listening to my long story.

> > > Sherry

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sherry! There's only one word I can think of at this moment:

" Unbelievable " (I wanted to add something " extra " between the syllables,

but this is a G-rated group!)!!

Sending all the positive vibes I can to you, your son, and your family!

Well, I must say this has been the

worst week of my life. Our 10 year

> old Asperger's son was at the after school program at his school on

> Monday. Normally, he doesn't attend the after school program, only

> the morning program. However, they had 1/2 days M-W and then T-F were

> fall break. Anyway, I sent him to the after school program because I

> don't have many days left to take off from work. By the way, the

> employees of this 'daycare' at school know our son is autistic.

>

> These bright people at the after school program decide to do a pinata

> and give these kids big bags of candy. Yeah, that's what a bunch of

> cooped up kids need, a pinata to whack on, and then gobs of candy.

> Oh, but they're not allowed to eat the candy until they go home, they

> just get to carry it around.

>

> Well, as I'm sure you all can guess, some girl took my son's candy and

> was teasing him. He asked her for the candy, but she wouldn't give it

> back so he pushed her. Needless to say, he got the time out, but not

> her. They wouldn't even listen to him about why he was upset. He was

> crying and talking to them trying to explain. They didn't listen.

>

> During this very short time out, he never got to tell them what was

> wrong, so he never calmed down. When he came back from time out, he

> took his candy bag and whacked this girl upside the head with it and

> told her to leave him alone. As we all know, Aspie's are so literal

> and do not ever understand why anyone is picking on them. They just

> know they need to make it stop and they don't usually ask for help.

>

> That got the after school 'camp counselor' upset with him again and

> When she approached him about it he was scared and angry with her and

> swung his arm out. He hit her in the face with the back of his hand.

> She called us to come pick him up and then she called the school

> police. The school police called the county sheriff(which they say

> is 'policy'), and they arrested this 10 year old little boy.

>

> They charged him with 2 counts of battery, 1 count of disorderly

> conduct, & 1 count of resisting law enforcement. The last 2 charges

> were because he lay down on the floor and was crying because he was

> scared. They took him to the juvenile facility and kept him chained

> to a bench with 15, 16, & 17 year old kids. We waited for 5 hours for

> them to release him. When these other kids were coming out

> of 'lockup', all we heard about was this little boy in there crying.

>

> We are making him responsible for his actions - it's NEVER ok to hit,

> he has to tell an adult, etc - and we had planned to punish him

> ourselves. I just can't believe this would escalate to the point that

> anyone would ever think its ok to arrest a 10 year old child!

>

> My husband arrived in time for them to walk him out and put him in the

> paddy wagon. It nearly broke him in two to see that.

>

> I've never been so afraid, angry, and sad at the same time, ever. The

> probation officers at the juvenile facility said none of them could

> believe that he got arrested. The arresting officer was told he was

> autistic, but his arrest report didn't even mention it so the juvenile

> facility didn't know until we told them!

>

> Well, now it's in the prosecutor's hands. We'll know Monday if they

> intend to drop the charges or proceed.

>

> We need prayers and we need help. Does anyone have any ideas on how

> we should proceed?

>

> This shameful incident occurred in n County (Indianapolis)

> Indiana.

>

> Thank you for listening to my long story.

> Sherry

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My 13 year old child has been looked at for aspergers, but we've never

had a true exam/evaluation. I was told that having her " diagnosed "

wouldn't do me any good. (She was already being treated for anxiety &

ADHD) That there was no special treatment and the school wouldn't do

anything special if it was on her IEP. An incident recently happened

that has me examining aspergers again. And after reading all your

comments, and particularly this problem (my daughter would react the

same way), I am realizing how important it is to get this diagnosis in

writing & on her IEP.

It's also nice to know I'm not alone out there. I can't say I've

fought this diagnosis, but when the therapist tells you she doesn't

think it applies, you assume they are correct. But she didn't see the

whole picture of my daughter. The more I read, the more I'm

convinced. We recently moved, and I'm starting with a new doctor and

therapist. Hopefully, we'll receive the help we need.

Your child will also be in my prayers,

Tara

[Guest guest]

Is there any liability on the part of these morons for traumatizing a child this

way? If not there should be. We probably need to get more politically active as

parents of AS kids.

Sherry, your story was heartbraking for my wife and I. All our thoughts are with

your family for the best outcome possible from this terrible incident. F

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Sherry, I echo ' feelings, there is a civil rights movement to be made on

behalf of our kids. It is shocking that your poor son was put through that and

my husband, who is a criminal defense lawyer, thinks there's a lawsuit.

Meanwhile, your poor guy! Poor you. This is something we can both imagining

happening to our sweet guy too.

" F. Velez " <luivelez@...> wrote:

Is there any liability on the part of these morons for traumatizing a

child this way? If not there should be. We probably need to get more politically

active as parents of AS kids.

Sherry, your story was heartbraking for my wife and I. All our thoughts are with

your family for the best outcome possible from this terrible incident. F

---------------------------------

Get your email and more, right on the new .com

[Guest guest]

I'm speechless. I honestly don't know what I would do if this

happened to my DS who is only one year younger than yours. I am so

sorry and I hope you get the support you need. I would sue the hell

out of that school and everyone involved.

[Guest guest]

Sherri, I am so sorry that you are going through this. I could not get through

your post w/o

crying. the thought of something like this happening to anyone's child when

they clearly

cannot help it totally breaks my heart. You and your son are in my prayers. Good

luck.

>

> I'm speechless. I honestly don't know what I would do if this

> happened to my DS who is only one year younger than yours. I am so

> sorry and I hope you get the support you need. I would sue the hell

> out of that school and everyone involved.

>

[Guest guest]

Prayers to you, and strength -- I can honestly say I know almost how you

feel, we had a police visit in September and my son is only 5. We got an

excellent attorney, but my son is still afraid of the police. ( " Don't

let them take me to jail, Daddy. " ) It's not something people just 'get

over,' it changes things permanently in that you always wonder 'what

next?' Trust that people are inherently caring about children...poof,

gone. (And I can't go into details -- we're still working on things,

this stuff just doesn't go away overnight.)

It's awful that this stuff happens -- and it will continue until there's

a concerted public effort and mandate that all professionals in law

enforcement, schools and any other organizations that are involved with

children, are required to take some serious classes in autism. (And I

don't mean a 1 hour seminar.)

Find a good attorney...and let us know how it goes.

Donna

>

>

> That got the after school 'camp counselor' upset with him again and

> When she approached him about it he was scared and angry with her and

> swung his arm out. He hit her in the face with the back of his hand.

> She called us to come pick him up and then she called the school

> police. The school police called the county sheriff(which they say

> is 'policy'), and they arrested this 10 year old little boy.>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You should look up an attorney who specializes in sped law. you can probably

find some names in your area on www.copaa.org This does not just concern this

one incident but because it happened at school, I would be concerned that

similar " tactics " would take place the next time your son stresses out. I would

really request that a behavior plan be put into place at school to cover future

issues. Also, there might be some interesting problems because this program is

done at the school as well (problematic for them, I mean) but then I am not a

lawyer. One could sort through the mess and figure out your options. It might

be worth a fee to just discuss the situation.

Also, consider if he has any kind of social skill programming built into his

IEP. Obviously, he needs that and you won't even have to take data to prove to

them he needs it (for a change!)

Roxanna

Re: ( ) 10 year old autistic arrested at school

We've removed him from this so called 'day care camp' and placed him

in a private home day care for before school care. I have to be at

work at 7:30A and his school doesn't start until 9:20A! So he's in

morning care for about 2 hours. The day care provider worked with

autistic children before and our son seems to like being around

toddlers for a couple hours a day. He's our youngest so he's not

around little kids much. It's very sweet to see him taking on a

mentoring role with little kids.

We're still determining how we're going to proceed. Its a difficult

decision on what we should do. We have to weigh the outrage against

the need to protect him and keep him from spiraling down.(Obviously he

was very traumatized by the whole sorry affair.) Our son has been

seeing the same behavioral pediatrician for 5 years. So after the

arrest we immediately made another appointment for the next day. The

specialist doubled his dose of anxiety medication. He fully believes

this will help with the impulsivity and angry outbursts.

I'll keep you all posted. Thank you very much for the advice and the

prayers. Keep praying that the prosecutor will drop the charges.

We'll find out Monday.

Sherry

>

> OMG what a week sherry. This should not have escalated and

> clearly 'daycare " does NOT understand your son; so he should not return

> there.

>

> I agree get a special needs lawyer involved. Their policy is not

> acceptable for Autism kids or special needs kids. I would start are

> www.wrightslaw.com or www.pacer.org

>

> Keep us posted as how things progress. I'm interested as I could see

> same circumstances with my 5yo-luckily he's in a private school that

> understands ASD but what'll happen in K-12?

>

> -Ann (Minneapolis, MN)

>

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