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  • 5 months later...

In a message dated 8/24/99 7:39:37 PM !!!First Boot!!!, DaniGran@...

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I have never really thought about when I got PA and what was happening in my

life, but now that you mention it, I was under a lot of stress. >>

le -

Because I think my overload of stress triggered my illnesses, it has been

hard not to blame myself - but the doctors tell me that these things would

have developed over time anyway. This is probably true for a lot of

different diseases - that trauma will be like a kick-starter.

Marie

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Purtnear and danielle -

I have always felt certain that the onset of my fybro/PA syndrome was spurred by

a major life change. ceratinly a change for the better, but i was unprepared for

the affects of going back to school, leaving a creative career which i

identified

with and moving in with a family member would have on me. i wondered if others

experienced similiar triggers.

barb

DaniGran@... wrote:

> From: DaniGran@...

>

> Purtnear -

>

> I have never really thought about when I got PA and what was happening in my

> life, but now that you mention it, I was under a lot of stress. Moved out of

> my parents house for the first time in 27 years, got into a long term

> relationship for the first time, moved in with him, then got married. Moved

> 5 hours away from all my friends. Left a very secure job with no foreseeable

> prospects.

> Makes me wonder if that is what triggered it.

>

> le

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In a message dated 4/13/01 8:15:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

ruf-caimi@... writes:

<< I too believe that a lot of RA comes from trauma. >>

I would have to agree also. I came down with the first symptoms of RA right

after I found out about my husband having an affair. I overheard him on the

phone with his " girl friend " and it knocked me for a loop to say the least!

I was the healthiest I had ever been at that point to. A low weight, a fit

body and a sensible eating plan. Then came the RA. I know everyone goes

through trauma in there lives, but I believe that some of us lucky ones who

carry the RA in us, get it triggered by the trauma. I wonder what it is it

takes to reverse it!

Rita

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Hi ,

I too believe that a lot of RA comes from trauma. I am the only one in my

family who has ever had this disease. Six years ago I hurt my neck, I went

to a doctor who fooled around and the injury was never fixed. Two years

later knowing and not getting any better I was told I had RA. To let you

see how I knew nothing about it, I said so what. I had absolutely no idea

what this disease was about. It is through my entire body, I know now how

nasty this disease can be.

Me Mom

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> From: <dat2352@...>

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> Subject: [ ] trauma

> Date: Thursday, April 12, 2001 9:26 AM

>

> Don't remember who posted the report about trauma triggering RA but

thanks.

> I have always felt that way. I believe mine is a result of all the

> surgeries and stress over my son. Now can I arrange a trauma to get rid

of

> it?

>

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hi keith, i am also a survivor of a suicide. my husband drovr into a train

about 8 yrs ago. i really didn't notice any pains until i came down with

carpal tunnel which was about 5 yrs ago i think. i believe stress has played

a big part of my illness.

kathy

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I believe emotional trauma could have started my RA. What I just

remembered where all the business problems I was having due to the

Florida wild fires at that time. Along with all the finacial problems

I was also just getting married and my knees and shoulder were

hurting real bad. On our honeymoon in the North Carolina mountains I

could hardly walk on the rocks in the streams like I always loved to

do. Then three weeks after our wedding my son broke up with a girl

friend and he decided to kill himself with a shotgun. That was a

little over two years ago and I was hurting in a few joints about a

month before the suicide so I never connected the two because I

always remembered I was hurting before he did it. Now I see I was

under a lot of stress before the pain started and after the suicide I

was just hanging on of a couple years. Thats the hardest thing I will

ever have to deal with next to the RA.

Where we all under a lot of stress when we first started hurting?

Thanks for helping me remember

in sunny Florida

> In a message dated 4/13/01 8:15:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> ruf-caimi@e... writes:

>

> << I too believe that a lot of RA comes from trauma. >>

>

> I would have to agree also. I came down with the first symptoms of

RA right

> after I found out about my husband having an affair. I overheard

him on the

> phone with his " girl friend " and it knocked me for a loop to say

the least!

> I was the healthiest I had ever been at that point to. A low

weight, a fit

> body and a sensible eating plan. Then came the RA. I know

everyone goes

> through trauma in there lives, but I believe that some of us lucky

ones who

> carry the RA in us, get it triggered by the trauma. I wonder what

it is it

> takes to reverse it!

>

> Rita

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,

I'm so sorry that your son killed himself. I can't imagine having to cope

with the loss of one of my children, especially due to suicide. I pray that

you can move forward with a lighter heart someday.

----- Original Message -----

From: <kwpatb@...>

< >

Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 9:41 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: trauma

> I believe emotional trauma could have started my RA. What I just

> remembered where all the business problems I was having due to the

> Florida wild fires at that time. Along with all the finacial problems

> I was also just getting married and my knees and shoulder were

> hurting real bad. On our honeymoon in the North Carolina mountains I

> could hardly walk on the rocks in the streams like I always loved to

> do. Then three weeks after our wedding my son broke up with a girl

> friend and he decided to kill himself with a shotgun. That was a

> little over two years ago and I was hurting in a few joints about a

> month before the suicide so I never connected the two because I

> always remembered I was hurting before he did it. Now I see I was

> under a lot of stress before the pain started and after the suicide I

> was just hanging on of a couple years. Thats the hardest thing I will

> ever have to deal with next to the RA.

>

> Where we all under a lot of stress when we first started hurting?

>

> Thanks for helping me remember

>

> in sunny Florida

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I agree that RA could be cause by stress or emoitonal trauma or even physical

trauma. In 's case i believe it started during me being pregnant with

him. I was always on a AB for a kidney or bladder infection and i had many

yeast infections when i was pregnant for him as well. I remember at about the

end of Jan of 89 right before my husband at the time was sent down here to

alabama to Fort McCullen for NBC training for the army national guards. He

left early Feb and i had in March. 2 weeks early and was born

with a club foot. When was about 2 he stated complaining of pain in his

legs. He had treatment and surgery for the club foot but at age one after

surgery they made an AFO brace for him and he had to relearn how to walk. The

drs then said it was growing pains. now jesse has always been small for his

age so i didn't believe it was growing pains but what can a mom do. We moved

to FL and started taking jesse to the shriners hospital in Tampa FL and they

did some tests at my request. Blood work came back abnormal. They refered us

to H.L. Moffet Cancer Ins. also in Tampa and they tested for many things. It

came back that he had a very high Rheumatoid count but our family dr could

treat him for JRA. the next 2 yrs got worse and worse. he could barely

breath. His breathing was so labored and he couldn't even walk to the

bathroom. he needed me to help him with everything including holding a cup.

He was 6 yrs old and weighed 29 pounds. I knew something was really wrong

with my baby. I found a peds Rheumy at All Childrens Hospital in St. Pete.

sorry i didn't mean rattle on and on. Maybe there is just a connection in

everyones story that may help find a reason or at least a clue.

I am sorry to hear about your son. My heart goes out to you. I have all sons

and my heart would break 10 times over if i ever lost one them.

you have come to the right place and i don't remember if i welcomed you so

welcome to the group.

shelly

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,

I'm sorry that your son ended his life. My brother committed suicide and it

really was awful for our family. I hope I never know the pain of loosing a

child. Stress has caused me to flare on several occasions, so I know it is a

direct link for me. My disease started with an auto accident, and with each

stressful event in my life, new joints were involved. I'm sorry you've been

through so much and hope the future is brighter for you and for all of us.

a

----- Original Message -----

From: kwpatb@...

Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 10:41 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: trauma

I believe emotional trauma could have started my RA. What I just

remembered where all the business problems I was having due to the

Florida wild fires at that time. Along with all the finacial problems

I was also just getting married and my knees and shoulder were

hurting real bad. On our honeymoon in the North Carolina mountains I

could hardly walk on the rocks in the streams like I always loved to

do. Then three weeks after our wedding my son broke up with a girl

friend and he decided to kill himself with a shotgun. That was a

little over two years ago and I was hurting in a few joints about a

month before the suicide so I never connected the two because I

always remembered I was hurting before he did it. Now I see I was

under a lot of stress before the pain started and after the suicide I

was just hanging on of a couple years. Thats the hardest thing I will

ever have to deal with next to the RA.

Where we all under a lot of stress when we first started hurting?

Thanks for helping me remember

in sunny Florida

> In a message dated 4/13/01 8:15:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> ruf-caimi@e... writes:

>

> << I too believe that a lot of RA comes from trauma. >>

>

> I would have to agree also. I came down with the first symptoms of

RA right

> after I found out about my husband having an affair. I overheard

him on the

> phone with his " girl friend " and it knocked me for a loop to say

the least!

> I was the healthiest I had ever been at that point to. A low

weight, a fit

> body and a sensible eating plan. Then came the RA. I know

everyone goes

> through trauma in there lives, but I believe that some of us lucky

ones who

> carry the RA in us, get it triggered by the trauma. I wonder what

it is it

> takes to reverse it!

>

> Rita

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  • 2 years later...

I went in for a CD4+ T-cell blood test yesterday - I hope this also

measures killer cells - my doc wants to measure T-cells before &

after starting LDN....

Dr. Bihari's comment that once endorphins go down, they don't go back

up interests me - my first MS symptoms were 4 months after my

mother's suicide...it was so traumatic. I am PP....

Also, I can walk almost normally at 2-4 in the wee hours of the

morning, when endorphins are produced according to Bihari, so I am

hoping the LDN works for me as I am progressing esp. re fatigue.

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