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You know I have been considering Home schooling for 2 years now and today was

the last straw for me, My daughter , who has ODD, extream ADHD and a mood

disorder NOS, was at school and apparently had an accident at school, but did

the school call us NO, instead they take her clothes go get diffrent ones, wash

her clothes and all and never make on call <-- isnt this illigal!!

I called the school more then angry, the school went on to tell me that

smells everyday and that its an issue, well if its such an issue why has no one

called, no notes sent home no nothing I have spoken to her teacher on the phone

before called during the school day to check in no one has reported this

supposed issue, and when i told the princible that i had recived a called she

said , well you should know your her mom, Ok 1st if i bathe my child in the

morning and she is clean I can do nothing about what happens between my front

door and school unless THEY CALL!!! when i told them I should be called, I was

told, well we will call you , and WE will clean her.

I have decided Im done, we are a very very low income family I had this issue

last year when they went a collected bags of NAME BRAND clothes so mary would so

call 'fit in " and now this BS! enoughs enough, just because Im poor doesnt mean

Im a bad mother and dont deserve to know what is going on with my child!

Liz S <lizs.1234@...> wrote:

,

I agree with your feelings totally. It sounds to me that the assistant teacher

wasn't watching everything to see what set him off. It could have all been

prevented if she had caught things early. I know you are reluctant to make an

issue of it since you have worked so hard to get him there & you are worn out.

Maybe just bite your tongue this time & see if it is an isolated thing? Gee, I

know that's not great advice though.

How is your son doing since being home this evening? Is he still thinking abut

his bad day or has he moved on?

Liz

ladyabyrose <luvkljm@...> wrote:

Hello to all!

I need to know if I am thinking straight here. My son is 7 AS, he if

finally in a HF Autism Special Ed class.

There was an incident on the playground today. He supposedly stomped

on another child's foot and hit him in the stomach.

K. I realize this is wrong for him to do. He told me that another

child who is younger than him and non-ese was teasing him. He can't

understand teasing...and flips.

According to the principal, nobody did anything to him,it was all

him...he had a rough day all around. She also told me that the

assistant teacher was watching very carefully.

My point, regardless of whom is at fault, she only has 4 children to

supervise, If she was watching " very carefully...why was this allowed

to esculate??

My son is in a specific class the teachers are supposed to be trained

in Autism and related behaviors. This class is also community based

for helping with social skills.

I simply can't beleive that NOTHING happened to cause him to flip.

It's been a long fight to get him to this class and I am tired and I

am becoming so leary of everything related to education!

Is my thinking off?

Best Wishes to all,

***A Very Worn Out Aspie Mom!!!

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I know what you mean, my son's school wouldn't call me unless my son was

dying... I asked them to and asked them to, and they refused, they just decided

to scream at him, threaten him, call the cops, anthing but call his mom who

lives right down the road and is willing to come at any time. We are pretty

poor as well, I am a single mom, but he is my only child. I do work with

developmentally disabled adults, but it doesn't pay much more than minimum

wage.... but it's a great job! I am homeschooling him now, and it's

wonderful.... he likes learning much better this way. It's a great bonding

experience for both of us!! Good luck!! Tami

Re: ( ) Public Schools Tick Me OFF

You know I have been considering Home schooling for 2 years now and today was

the last straw for me, My daughter , who has ODD, extream ADHD and a mood

disorder NOS, was at school and apparently had an accident at school, but did

the school call us NO, instead they take her clothes go get diffrent ones, wash

her clothes and all and never make on call <-- isnt this illigal!!

I called the school more then angry, the school went on to tell me that

smells everyday and that its an issue, well if its such an issue why has no one

called, no notes sent home no nothing I have spoken to her teacher on the phone

before called during the school day to check in no one has reported this

supposed issue, and when i told the princible that i had recived a called she

said , well you should know your her mom, Ok 1st if i bathe my child in the

morning and she is clean I can do nothing about what happens between my front

door and school unless THEY CALL!!! when i told them I should be called, I was

told, well we will call you , and WE will clean her.

I have decided Im done, we are a very very low income family I had this issue

last year when they went a collected bags of NAME BRAND clothes so mary would so

call 'fit in " and now this BS! enoughs enough, just because Im poor doesnt mean

Im a bad mother and dont deserve to know what is going on with my child!

Liz S <lizs.1234@...> wrote:

,

I agree with your feelings totally. It sounds to me that the assistant teacher

wasn't watching everything to see what set him off. It could have all been

prevented if she had caught things early. I know you are reluctant to make an

issue of it since you have worked so hard to get him there & you are worn out.

Maybe just bite your tongue this time & see if it is an isolated thing? Gee, I

know that's not great advice though.

How is your son doing since being home this evening? Is he still thinking abut

his bad day or has he moved on?

Liz

ladyabyrose <luvkljm@...> wrote:

Hello to all!

I need to know if I am thinking straight here. My son is 7 AS, he if

finally in a HF Autism Special Ed class.

There was an incident on the playground today. He supposedly stomped

on another child's foot and hit him in the stomach.

K. I realize this is wrong for him to do. He told me that another

child who is younger than him and non-ese was teasing him. He can't

understand teasing...and flips.

According to the principal, nobody did anything to him,it was all

him...he had a rough day all around. She also told me that the

assistant teacher was watching very carefully.

My point, regardless of whom is at fault, she only has 4 children to

supervise, If she was watching " very carefully...why was this allowed

to esculate??

My son is in a specific class the teachers are supposed to be trained

in Autism and related behaviors. This class is also community based

for helping with social skills.

I simply can't beleive that NOTHING happened to cause him to flip.

It's been a long fight to get him to this class and I am tired and I

am becoming so leary of everything related to education!

Is my thinking off?

Best Wishes to all,

***A Very Worn Out Aspie Mom!!!

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I think it will be better for us I was planning on home schooling my aspie Son

anyhow, because he isnt ready to function in large groups, is ODD so they

dont realise that she is getting exactly what she wants out of this, she does it

at school they dont call me she gets all the attention and we look like crappy

parents! just because we are poor doesnt give the public schools right to assume

we dont care at all!, gets what she wants then does they same thing at home

and cant figure out why it doesnt work here its just to much trouble when you

have special child, public school care less about the " Special " child all they

want is to take a " special " child and try and force them to mould into the

average child and blame the parents when it doesnt work i really see the world

going back to the old, " refirgerator mom " outlook just like last time my son was

in the Hospital they told me to try attachment therapy or what ever, and omg I

read some stuff that turned my

stomach and would be abuse if any average parent tried that same thing but give

a person a lable and its helping a child, just Like s School has a small

closet they can lock children in when they have melt downs, and just leave them

there tiil they are quiet, if a parent does that its neglect and abuse ...

Tami Ober <nyx@...> wrote: I know what you mean, my son's

school wouldn't call me unless my son was dying... I asked them to and asked

them to, and they refused, they just decided to scream at him, threaten him,

call the cops, anthing but call his mom who lives right down the road and is

willing to come at any time. We are pretty poor as well, I am a single mom, but

he is my only child. I do work with developmentally disabled adults, but it

doesn't pay much more than minimum wage.... but it's a great job! I am

homeschooling him now, and it's wonderful.... he likes learning much better this

way. It's a great bonding experience for both of us!! Good luck!! Tami

Re: ( ) Public Schools Tick Me OFF

You know I have been considering Home schooling for 2 years now and today was

the last straw for me, My daughter , who has ODD, extream ADHD and a mood

disorder NOS, was at school and apparently had an accident at school, but did

the school call us NO, instead they take her clothes go get diffrent ones, wash

her clothes and all and never make on call <-- isnt this illigal!!

I called the school more then angry, the school went on to tell me that

smells everyday and that its an issue, well if its such an issue why has no one

called, no notes sent home no nothing I have spoken to her teacher on the phone

before called during the school day to check in no one has reported this

supposed issue, and when i told the princible that i had recived a called she

said , well you should know your her mom, Ok 1st if i bathe my child in the

morning and she is clean I can do nothing about what happens between my front

door and school unless THEY CALL!!! when i told them I should be called, I was

told, well we will call you , and WE will clean her.

I have decided Im done, we are a very very low income family I had this issue

last year when they went a collected bags of NAME BRAND clothes so mary would so

call 'fit in " and now this BS! enoughs enough, just because Im poor doesnt mean

Im a bad mother and dont deserve to know what is going on with my child!

Liz S <lizs.1234@...> wrote:

,

I agree with your feelings totally. It sounds to me that the assistant teacher

wasn't watching everything to see what set him off. It could have all been

prevented if she had caught things early. I know you are reluctant to make an

issue of it since you have worked so hard to get him there & you are worn out.

Maybe just bite your tongue this time & see if it is an isolated thing? Gee, I

know that's not great advice though.

How is your son doing since being home this evening? Is he still thinking abut

his bad day or has he moved on?

Liz

ladyabyrose <luvkljm@...> wrote:

Hello to all!

I need to know if I am thinking straight here. My son is 7 AS, he if

finally in a HF Autism Special Ed class.

There was an incident on the playground today. He supposedly stomped

on another child's foot and hit him in the stomach.

K. I realize this is wrong for him to do. He told me that another

child who is younger than him and non-ese was teasing him. He can't

understand teasing...and flips.

According to the principal, nobody did anything to him,it was all

him...he had a rough day all around. She also told me that the

assistant teacher was watching very carefully.

My point, regardless of whom is at fault, she only has 4 children to

supervise, If she was watching " very carefully...why was this allowed

to esculate??

My son is in a specific class the teachers are supposed to be trained

in Autism and related behaviors. This class is also community based

for helping with social skills.

I simply can't beleive that NOTHING happened to cause him to flip.

It's been a long fight to get him to this class and I am tired and I

am becoming so leary of everything related to education!

Is my thinking off?

Best Wishes to all,

***A Very Worn Out Aspie Mom!!!

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Thanks to everyone for thier replies! He was afraid to go to school

today. So, I kept him home. Something had to trigger this and I sent

teacher a note.

I have found that when I can't get any action from the school or

district...I go straight to the State of Florida Dept of Ed...it's

amazing how fast things get taken care of when I do. I am so fed up

at times with the school system.

The principal told me yesterday on the phone that my child is no

differnet than any other child even though he has a disability..so

now I see exactly what I am dealing with.

I wish I could home school, unfortunatly, I myself am on disability

also. I do not think I could handle the stress of doing that.

In response to Dianne, How unreal! So, she would " fit in " I can't

afford brand name clothing for my son either. He does go to a public

uniform school. Sometimes I buy his clothing at a thrift store. I

don't see anything wrong with it at all. We do the best we can. Our

children are clean and should not be judged on thier clothing. If

they wanted to do that they should have asked if you were ok with the

donation, I would have gladly accepted if they would ask first, but

it would be a slap in my face if they did not.

If your child, in thier opinion " smelled " they should have talked to

you about it first. In an APPORPRIATE manner. I would complain to

the district or your state.

I have problems getting pants to fit my son. He is big and wears a

14/16, however, the legs of the pants are so long on him. I don't

sew. The weather is getting cold here in the sunshine state. I am

going to send him in sweatpants in the approriate color. If they

want him in dress pants I would be happy to accept donations of hemed

pants...lol My son has one pair of pants. I wash them daily!(the

sweats are so much cheaper than the dress ones).

I am one to follow rules, do the right things. But, darn it, I am

just burned out and fed up!

Glad to hear that homeschooling is working out great for you all!

Best Wishes,

> Hello to all!

>

> I need to know if I am thinking straight here. My son is 7 AS, he

if

> finally in a HF Autism Special Ed class.

>

> There was an incident on the playground today. He supposedly

stomped

> on another child's foot and hit him in the stomach.

>

> K. I realize this is wrong for him to do. He told me that another

> child who is younger than him and non-ese was teasing him. He

can't

> understand teasing...and flips.

>

> According to the principal, nobody did anything to him,it was all

> him...he had a rough day all around. She also told me that the

> assistant teacher was watching very carefully.

>

> My point, regardless of whom is at fault, she only has 4 children

to

> supervise, If she was watching " very carefully...why was this

allowed

> to esculate??

>

> My son is in a specific class the teachers are supposed to be

trained

> in Autism and related behaviors. This class is also community

based

> for helping with social skills.

>

> I simply can't beleive that NOTHING happened to cause him to flip.

>

> It's been a long fight to get him to this class and I am tired

and I

> am becoming so leary of everything related to education!

> Is my thinking off?

>

> Best Wishes to all,

>

> ***A Very Worn Out Aspie Mom!!!

>

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We had a bad time when our son was in kindergarten. Behavior problems

were awful, the school suspended him for 5 days early in the school

year and then were preparing to suspend him again in the spring when

we withdrew him to homeschool. It's been a challenge but we believe

he is doing so much better than if we'd left him in school.

Marty

At Thu Dec 7, 2006 10:17 pm, " Tami Ober " nyx@... wrote:

>I know what you mean, my son's school wouldn't call me unless my son

>was dying... I asked them to and asked them to, and they refused,

>they just decided to scream at him, threaten him, call the cops,

>anthing but call his mom who lives right down the road and is

>willing to come at any time. We are pretty poor as well, I am a

>single mom, but he is my only child. I do work with developmentally

>disabled adults, but it doesn't pay much more than minimum wage....

>but it's a great job! I am homeschooling him now, and it's

>wonderful.... he likes learning much better this way. It's a great

>bonding experience for both of us!!

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My daughter is only 5 but she has always smelled. It did not matter

if she had just taken a bath. Now we are chelating and she smells

even worse (all the toxins coming out). I can only give her a bath

twice a week do to our schedule but she uses wipes everytime she uses

the bathroom at home. No one has said anything but I am sure they

will next year. For the public school, I had to sign a contract

stating my child would be clean and groomed daily (contract for all

children). I can understand obvious issues of children arriving in

dirty clothes and hair that looks like it never has been combed. I

wish you luck.

Jen

> > Hello to all!

> >

> > I need to know if I am thinking straight here. My son is 7 AS, he

> if

> > finally in a HF Autism Special Ed class.

> >

> > There was an incident on the playground today. He supposedly

> stomped

> > on another child's foot and hit him in the stomach.

> >

> > K. I realize this is wrong for him to do. He told me that another

> > child who is younger than him and non-ese was teasing him. He

> can't

> > understand teasing...and flips.

> >

> > According to the principal, nobody did anything to him,it was all

> > him...he had a rough day all around. She also told me that the

> > assistant teacher was watching very carefully.

> >

> > My point, regardless of whom is at fault, she only has 4 children

> to

> > supervise, If she was watching " very carefully...why was this

> allowed

> > to esculate??

> >

> > My son is in a specific class the teachers are supposed to be

> trained

> > in Autism and related behaviors. This class is also community

> based

> > for helping with social skills.

> >

> > I simply can't beleive that NOTHING happened to cause him to flip.

> >

> > It's been a long fight to get him to this class and I am tired

> and I

> > am becoming so leary of everything related to education!

> > Is my thinking off?

> >

> > Best Wishes to all,

> >

> > ***A Very Worn Out Aspie Mom!!!

> >

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Your so right and what makes it worse is that has ODD,and anyone who knows

this disorder knows these children gain power from head games I adore dont

get me wrong but she lives for mind games and control, its built into her i

suppose, but its in her file at school she has this , now if her dang resource

teacher is so smart why doesnt she see she is being out smarted by my 7 yr old.

is going potty on her self at school because she knows it gains her

attention, she can tell the school she didnt do it at school , and poof the

school blames the parent, s also been known to go and tell the school she

was out of medication, thisa kids never gone without meds other wise id go

insane! , if they had called and spoken to me I could have told them right away,

my has pulled one over on you. I dont like that she doesn this but from

what I have read there isnt a lot to prevent it i have

read so many stories of children doing the same things she is.! *sigh*

ladyabyrose <luvkljm@...> wrote: Thanks to everyone for thier

replies! He was afraid to go to school

today. So, I kept him home. Something had to trigger this and I sent

teacher a note.

I have found that when I can't get any action from the school or

district...I go straight to the State of Florida Dept of Ed...it's

amazing how fast things get taken care of when I do. I am so fed up

at times with the school system.

The principal told me yesterday on the phone that my child is no

differnet than any other child even though he has a disability..so

now I see exactly what I am dealing with.

I wish I could home school, unfortunatly, I myself am on disability

also. I do not think I could handle the stress of doing that.

In response to Dianne, How unreal! So, she would " fit in " I can't

afford brand name clothing for my son either. He does go to a public

uniform school. Sometimes I buy his clothing at a thrift store. I

don't see anything wrong with it at all. We do the best we can. Our

children are clean and should not be judged on thier clothing. If

they wanted to do that they should have asked if you were ok with the

donation, I would have gladly accepted if they would ask first, but

it would be a slap in my face if they did not.

If your child, in thier opinion " smelled " they should have talked to

you about it first. In an APPORPRIATE manner. I would complain to

the district or your state.

I have problems getting pants to fit my son. He is big and wears a

14/16, however, the legs of the pants are so long on him. I don't

sew. The weather is getting cold here in the sunshine state. I am

going to send him in sweatpants in the approriate color. If they

want him in dress pants I would be happy to accept donations of hemed

pants...lol My son has one pair of pants. I wash them daily!(the

sweats are so much cheaper than the dress ones).

I am one to follow rules, do the right things. But, darn it, I am

just burned out and fed up!

Glad to hear that homeschooling is working out great for you all!

Best Wishes,

> Hello to all!

>

> I need to know if I am thinking straight here. My son is 7 AS, he

if

> finally in a HF Autism Special Ed class.

>

> There was an incident on the playground today. He supposedly

stomped

> on another child's foot and hit him in the stomach.

>

> K. I realize this is wrong for him to do. He told me that another

> child who is younger than him and non-ese was teasing him. He

can't

> understand teasing...and flips.

>

> According to the principal, nobody did anything to him,it was all

> him...he had a rough day all around. She also told me that the

> assistant teacher was watching very carefully.

>

> My point, regardless of whom is at fault, she only has 4 children

to

> supervise, If she was watching " very carefully...why was this

allowed

> to esculate??

>

> My son is in a specific class the teachers are supposed to be

trained

> in Autism and related behaviors. This class is also community

based

> for helping with social skills.

>

> I simply can't beleive that NOTHING happened to cause him to flip.

>

> It's been a long fight to get him to this class and I am tired

and I

> am becoming so leary of everything related to education!

> Is my thinking off?

>

> Best Wishes to all,

>

> ***A Very Worn Out Aspie Mom!!!

>

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I recived that same contract and refused to sign in ,personaly I feel its crazy

who are they to tell me when and how and what my child should wear, or bathe or

whatever, and how much TV she watches, its their job to teach my child not tell

me how to raise her, is at her grade level and functioning very well, the

rest in my eyes is petty BS and popularity contest and thus to me is increasing

the want and need for childrent o pick and bully other children who are less

fortunate or what have you! should is about learning , not all that other crap

jennifer_thorson <jennifer_thorson@...> wrote: My daughter is

only 5 but she has always smelled. It did not matter

if she had just taken a bath. Now we are chelating and she smells

even worse (all the toxins coming out). I can only give her a bath

twice a week do to our schedule but she uses wipes everytime she uses

the bathroom at home. No one has said anything but I am sure they

will next year. For the public school, I had to sign a contract

stating my child would be clean and groomed daily (contract for all

children). I can understand obvious issues of children arriving in

dirty clothes and hair that looks like it never has been combed. I

wish you luck.

Jen

> > Hello to all!

> >

> > I need to know if I am thinking straight here. My son is 7 AS, he

> if

> > finally in a HF Autism Special Ed class.

> >

> > There was an incident on the playground today. He supposedly

> stomped

> > on another child's foot and hit him in the stomach.

> >

> > K. I realize this is wrong for him to do. He told me that another

> > child who is younger than him and non-ese was teasing him. He

> can't

> > understand teasing...and flips.

> >

> > According to the principal, nobody did anything to him,it was all

> > him...he had a rough day all around. She also told me that the

> > assistant teacher was watching very carefully.

> >

> > My point, regardless of whom is at fault, she only has 4 children

> to

> > supervise, If she was watching " very carefully...why was this

> allowed

> > to esculate??

> >

> > My son is in a specific class the teachers are supposed to be

> trained

> > in Autism and related behaviors. This class is also community

> based

> > for helping with social skills.

> >

> > I simply can't beleive that NOTHING happened to cause him to flip.

> >

> > It's been a long fight to get him to this class and I am tired

> and I

> > am becoming so leary of everything related to education!

> > Is my thinking off?

> >

> > Best Wishes to all,

> >

> > ***A Very Worn Out Aspie Mom!!!

> >

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I never sign or return those " contracts " no one has ever said

anything to me about it either. It's common sense stuff, I will not

commit my son to homework either....he maybe moody and it can cause a

serious meltdown. It's simply not worth it to have him sooooo

stressed.

I also refuse bilingual communications, the school also now sends

everything in English...it was a big confusion for him...thinking he

could not read. Besides the law states if your child was previously

or currently enrolled in an esl class that the notifications go home

in the native language. Thats' not us. I refuse to have him confused

when we are trying so hard to read english. Technically, under the

law you do not have to recieve these communications...He freaks

sometimes when he hears it...it " hurts his head " .

It just amazes me how intrusive the schools can be,and what little

regard or consideration to the disabled child.

I also had the " parent link " automated phone calls stopped too. How

anoying that was. Attendence, school pictures...etc. They used to

call my home after 9 in the evening.

So much of this stuff you don't have to participate in if you don't

want to....many just don't question it.

My home is my own. It is actually my sanctuary! I demand to choose

what comes into my home or not. I do not give into the school.

Having my son in this special class teacher wants to know about

anything that is going on at home, personal issues. I don't like that

very much at all!

Sorry, again, I am just really burned out with the schools, I guess

this post was actually another vent. I think I am becoming bitter

towardthe schools.

Thanks for listening...sorry if I got off the topic.

> > > Hello to all!

> > >

> > > I need to know if I am thinking straight here. My son is 7

AS, he

> > if

> > > finally in a HF Autism Special Ed class.

> > >

> > > There was an incident on the playground today. He supposedly

> > stomped

> > > on another child's foot and hit him in the stomach.

> > >

> > > K. I realize this is wrong for him to do. He told me that

another

> > > child who is younger than him and non-ese was teasing him. He

> > can't

> > > understand teasing...and flips.

> > >

> > > According to the principal, nobody did anything to him,it was

all

> > > him...he had a rough day all around. She also told me that

the

> > > assistant teacher was watching very carefully.

> > >

> > > My point, regardless of whom is at fault, she only has 4

children

> > to

> > > supervise, If she was watching " very carefully...why was this

> > allowed

> > > to esculate??

> > >

> > > My son is in a specific class the teachers are supposed to be

> > trained

> > > in Autism and related behaviors. This class is also community

> > based

> > > for helping with social skills.

> > >

> > > I simply can't beleive that NOTHING happened to cause him to

flip.

> > >

> > > It's been a long fight to get him to this class and I am

tired

> > and I

> > > am becoming so leary of everything related to education!

> > > Is my thinking off?

> > >

> > > Best Wishes to all,

> > >

> > > ***A Very Worn Out Aspie Mom!!!

> > >

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No i totaly agree with you, I mean think back 20 yrs ago when we were in schools

teachers didnt care what happened at home never questioned anything, a kind

could come to school beaten black and blue no one said anything, now our kids

are in school and they decide they want ever detail, did you get a bath this

morning, what did you have for dinner,do you have Tommy Hillgiar clothing, ...

what tv do you watch.. There has to be a middle some where this is stupid!

ladyabyrose <luvkljm@...> wrote:

I never sign or return those " contracts " no one has ever said

anything to me about it either. It's common sense stuff, I will not

commit my son to homework either....he maybe moody and it can cause a

serious meltdown. It's simply not worth it to have him sooooo

stressed.

I also refuse bilingual communications, the school also now sends

everything in English...it was a big confusion for him...thinking he

could not read. Besides the law states if your child was previously

or currently enrolled in an esl class that the notifications go home

in the native language. Thats' not us. I refuse to have him confused

when we are trying so hard to read english. Technically, under the

law you do not have to recieve these communications...He freaks

sometimes when he hears it...it " hurts his head " .

It just amazes me how intrusive the schools can be,and what little

regard or consideration to the disabled child.

I also had the " parent link " automated phone calls stopped too. How

anoying that was. Attendence, school pictures...etc. They used to

call my home after 9 in the evening.

So much of this stuff you don't have to participate in if you don't

want to....many just don't question it.

My home is my own. It is actually my sanctuary! I demand to choose

what comes into my home or not. I do not give into the school.

Having my son in this special class teacher wants to know about

anything that is going on at home, personal issues. I don't like that

very much at all!

Sorry, again, I am just really burned out with the schools, I guess

this post was actually another vent. I think I am becoming bitter

towardthe schools.

Thanks for listening...sorry if I got off the topic.

> > > Hello to all!

> > >

> > > I need to know if I am thinking straight here. My son is 7

AS, he

> > if

> > > finally in a HF Autism Special Ed class.

> > >

> > > There was an incident on the playground today. He supposedly

> > stomped

> > > on another child's foot and hit him in the stomach.

> > >

> > > K. I realize this is wrong for him to do. He told me that

another

> > > child who is younger than him and non-ese was teasing him. He

> > can't

> > > understand teasing...and flips.

> > >

> > > According to the principal, nobody did anything to him,it was

all

> > > him...he had a rough day all around. She also told me that

the

> > > assistant teacher was watching very carefully.

> > >

> > > My point, regardless of whom is at fault, she only has 4

children

> > to

> > > supervise, If she was watching " very carefully...why was this

> > allowed

> > > to esculate??

> > >

> > > My son is in a specific class the teachers are supposed to be

> > trained

> > > in Autism and related behaviors. This class is also community

> > based

> > > for helping with social skills.

> > >

> > > I simply can't beleive that NOTHING happened to cause him to

flip.

> > >

> > > It's been a long fight to get him to this class and I am

tired

> > and I

> > > am becoming so leary of everything related to education!

> > > Is my thinking off?

> > >

> > > Best Wishes to all,

> > >

> > > ***A Very Worn Out Aspie Mom!!!

> > >

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Hello all,

this is a little off topic but related.

Maybe some of you have heard of this site. its called:

www.freecycle.org

you reg. for free. you click on the state that you live in and all the cities

that are close for you to travel to.

you " can't " sell anything on this site. everything is posted for free. you

can post the clothes your children outgrew or toys. House hold stuff & too much

to list. Doesn't matter what your income is. This site was started to save

the landfill and help communities. You can also request somethings that other

people post that they are giving away too.

jennifer_thorson <jennifer_thorson@...> wrote:

My daughter is only 5 but she has always smelled. It did not matter

if she had just taken a bath. Now we are chelating and she smells

even worse (all the toxins coming out). I can only give her a bath

twice a week do to our schedule but she uses wipes everytime she uses

the bathroom at home. No one has said anything but I am sure they

will next year. For the public school, I had to sign a contract

stating my child would be clean and groomed daily (contract for all

children). I can understand obvious issues of children arriving in

dirty clothes and hair that looks like it never has been combed. I

wish you luck.

Jen

> > Hello to all!

> >

> > I need to know if I am thinking straight here. My son is 7 AS, he

> if

> > finally in a HF Autism Special Ed class.

> >

> > There was an incident on the playground today. He supposedly

> stomped

> > on another child's foot and hit him in the stomach.

> >

> > K. I realize this is wrong for him to do. He told me that another

> > child who is younger than him and non-ese was teasing him. He

> can't

> > understand teasing...and flips.

> >

> > According to the principal, nobody did anything to him,it was all

> > him...he had a rough day all around. She also told me that the

> > assistant teacher was watching very carefully.

> >

> > My point, regardless of whom is at fault, she only has 4 children

> to

> > supervise, If she was watching " very carefully...why was this

> allowed

> > to esculate??

> >

> > My son is in a specific class the teachers are supposed to be

> trained

> > in Autism and related behaviors. This class is also community

> based

> > for helping with social skills.

> >

> > I simply can't beleive that NOTHING happened to cause him to flip.

> >

> > It's been a long fight to get him to this class and I am tired

> and I

> > am becoming so leary of everything related to education!

> > Is my thinking off?

> >

> > Best Wishes to all,

> >

> > ***A Very Worn Out Aspie Mom!!!

> >

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I agree Dianne,

just because you are lower income does not mean they shouldn't be calling you

and letting you know about a problem - any problem. I am amazed that they went

to all the trouble to wash her clothes though. I would think they would just

send her home for you to clean up. How odd!

Roxanna

Re: ( ) Public Schools Tick Me OFF

You know I have been considering Home schooling for 2 years now and today was

the last straw for me, My daughter , who has ODD, extream ADHD and a mood

disorder NOS, was at school and apparently had an accident at school, but did

the school call us NO, instead they take her clothes go get diffrent ones, wash

her clothes and all and never make on call <-- isnt this illigal!!

I called the school more then angry, the school went on to tell me that

smells everyday and that its an issue, well if its such an issue why has no one

called, no notes sent home no nothing I have spoken to her teacher on the phone

before called during the school day to check in no one has reported this

supposed issue, and when i told the princible that i had recived a called she

said , well you should know your her mom, Ok 1st if i bathe my child in the

morning and she is clean I can do nothing about what happens between my front

door and school unless THEY CALL!!! when i told them I should be called, I was

told, well we will call you , and WE will clean her.

I have decided Im done, we are a very very low income family I had this issue

last year when they went a collected bags of NAME BRAND clothes so mary would so

call 'fit in " and now this BS! enoughs enough, just because Im poor doesnt mean

Im a bad mother and dont deserve to know what is going on with my child!

Liz S <lizs.1234@...> wrote:

,

I agree with your feelings totally. It sounds to me that the assistant teacher

wasn't watching everything to see what set him off. It could have all been

prevented if she had caught things early. I know you are reluctant to make an

issue of it since you have worked so hard to get him there & you are worn out.

Maybe just bite your tongue this time & see if it is an isolated thing? Gee, I

know that's not great advice though.

How is your son doing since being home this evening? Is he still thinking abut

his bad day or has he moved on?

Liz

ladyabyrose <luvkljm@...> wrote:

Hello to all!

I need to know if I am thinking straight here. My son is 7 AS, he if

finally in a HF Autism Special Ed class.

There was an incident on the playground today. He supposedly stomped

on another child's foot and hit him in the stomach.

K. I realize this is wrong for him to do. He told me that another

child who is younger than him and non-ese was teasing him. He can't

understand teasing...and flips.

According to the principal, nobody did anything to him,it was all

him...he had a rough day all around. She also told me that the

assistant teacher was watching very carefully.

My point, regardless of whom is at fault, she only has 4 children to

supervise, If she was watching " very carefully...why was this allowed

to esculate??

My son is in a specific class the teachers are supposed to be trained

in Autism and related behaviors. This class is also community based

for helping with social skills.

I simply can't beleive that NOTHING happened to cause him to flip.

It's been a long fight to get him to this class and I am tired and I

am becoming so leary of everything related to education!

Is my thinking off?

Best Wishes to all,

***A Very Worn Out Aspie Mom!!!

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Wow, they are locking kids in the closet? That is major abuse. Probably saves

them money on hiring someone to come in and do behavioral assessments. You are

right about the double standard though - even though I don't agree with putting

a kid in the closet. There is a family here in Ohio who had something like 13

or 14 special needs kids. They built little box like structures for bed time

and locked them in at night. They are in court now being charged with some sort

of child abuse.

Roxanna

Re: ( ) Public Schools Tick Me OFF

You know I have been considering Home schooling for 2 years now and today was

the last straw for me, My daughter , who has ODD, extream ADHD and a mood

disorder NOS, was at school and apparently had an accident at school, but did

the school call us NO, instead they take her clothes go get diffrent ones, wash

her clothes and all and never make on call <-- isnt this illigal!!

I called the school more then angry, the school went on to tell me that

smells everyday and that its an issue, well if its such an issue why has no one

called, no notes sent home no nothing I have spoken to her teacher on the phone

before called during the school day to check in no one has reported this

supposed issue, and when i told the princible that i had recived a called she

said , well you should know your her mom, Ok 1st if i bathe my child in the

morning and she is clean I can do nothing about what happens between my front

door and school unless THEY CALL!!! when i told them I should be called, I was

told, well we will call you , and WE will clean her.

I have decided Im done, we are a very very low income family I had this issue

last year when they went a collected bags of NAME BRAND clothes so mary would so

call 'fit in " and now this BS! enoughs enough, just because Im poor doesnt mean

Im a bad mother and dont deserve to know what is going on with my child!

Liz S <lizs.1234@...> wrote:

,

I agree with your feelings totally. It sounds to me that the assistant teacher

wasn't watching everything to see what set him off. It could have all been

prevented if she had caught things early. I know you are reluctant to make an

issue of it since you have worked so hard to get him there & you are worn out.

Maybe just bite your tongue this time & see if it is an isolated thing? Gee, I

know that's not great advice though.

How is your son doing since being home this evening? Is he still thinking abut

his bad day or has he moved on?

Liz

ladyabyrose <luvkljm@...> wrote:

Hello to all!

I need to know if I am thinking straight here. My son is 7 AS, he if

finally in a HF Autism Special Ed class.

There was an incident on the playground today. He supposedly stomped

on another child's foot and hit him in the stomach.

K. I realize this is wrong for him to do. He told me that another

child who is younger than him and non-ese was teasing him. He can't

understand teasing...and flips.

According to the principal, nobody did anything to him,it was all

him...he had a rough day all around. She also told me that the

assistant teacher was watching very carefully.

My point, regardless of whom is at fault, she only has 4 children to

supervise, If she was watching " very carefully...why was this allowed

to esculate??

My son is in a specific class the teachers are supposed to be trained

in Autism and related behaviors. This class is also community based

for helping with social skills.

I simply can't beleive that NOTHING happened to cause him to flip.

It's been a long fight to get him to this class and I am tired and I

am becoming so leary of everything related to education!

Is my thinking off?

Best Wishes to all,

***A Very Worn Out Aspie Mom!!!

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If she has soiled her clothes in an " accident " they should call the parent to

bring in clean clothes. If that is not possible, they must clean her themselves

if she is not capable of cleaning herself. It would be illegal, and clear-cut

child abuse if they just let her sit in it. That is why they have contact

numbers of parents or relatives on hand. If they cannot contact a parent, then

the contact or relative would be able to bring in clean clothes. In either case,

a parent or contact should be called to let the parents know what has happened.

As a last resort, they would handle the problem and send a note home to the

parent. At that point, I believe, they are obligated to update their emergency

contact info.

Dave

Re: ( ) Public Schools Tick Me OFF

You know I have been considering Home schooling for 2 years now and today was

the last straw for me, My daughter , who has ODD, extream ADHD and a mood

disorder NOS, was at school and apparently had an accident at school, but did

the school call us NO, instead they take her clothes go get diffrent ones, wash

her clothes and all and never make on call <-- isnt this illigal!!

I called the school more then angry, the school went on to tell me that

smells everyday and that its an issue, well if its such an issue why has no one

called, no notes sent home no nothing I have spoken to her teacher on the phone

before called during the school day to check in no one has reported this

supposed issue, and when i told the princible that i had recived a called she

said , well you should know your her mom, Ok 1st if i bathe my child in the

morning and she is clean I can do nothing about what happens between my front

door and school unless THEY CALL!!! when i told them I should be called, I was

told, well we will call you , and WE will clean her.

I have decided Im done, we are a very very low income family I had this issue

last year when they went a collected bags of NAME BRAND clothes so mary would so

call 'fit in " and now this BS! enoughs enough, just because Im poor doesnt mean

Im a bad mother and dont deserve to know what is going on with my child!

Liz S <lizs.1234@...> wrote:

,

I agree with your feelings totally. It sounds to me that the assistant teacher

wasn't watching everything to see what set him off. It could have all been

prevented if she had caught things early. I know you are reluctant to make an

issue of it since you have worked so hard to get him there & you are worn out.

Maybe just bite your tongue this time & see if it is an isolated thing? Gee, I

know that's not great advice though.

How is your son doing since being home this evening? Is he still thinking abut

his bad day or has he moved on?

Liz

ladyabyrose <luvkljm@...> wrote:

Hello to all!

I need to know if I am thinking straight here. My son is 7 AS, he if

finally in a HF Autism Special Ed class.

There was an incident on the playground today. He supposedly stomped

on another child's foot and hit him in the stomach.

K. I realize this is wrong for him to do. He told me that another

child who is younger than him and non-ese was teasing him. He can't

understand teasing...and flips.

According to the principal, nobody did anything to him,it was all

him...he had a rough day all around. She also told me that the

assistant teacher was watching very carefully.

My point, regardless of whom is at fault, she only has 4 children to

supervise, If she was watching " very carefully...why was this allowed

to esculate??

My son is in a specific class the teachers are supposed to be trained

in Autism and related behaviors. This class is also community based

for helping with social skills.

I simply can't beleive that NOTHING happened to cause him to flip.

It's been a long fight to get him to this class and I am tired and I

am becoming so leary of everything related to education!

Is my thinking off?

Best Wishes to all,

***A Very Worn Out Aspie Mom!!!

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My phones on 24-7 if they had tried to call they would

have reached me no doubt, and of all things now today,

told me she got in trouble because she wanted to

leve school she hates it and tried to climb the

fence,again no phone call and I was home all day!!

--- <sirdavjohn@...> wrote:

> If she has soiled her clothes in an " accident " they

> should call the parent to bring in clean clothes. If

> that is not possible, they must clean her themselves

> if she is not capable of cleaning herself. It would

> be illegal, and clear-cut child abuse if they just

> let her sit in it. That is why they have contact

> numbers of parents or relatives on hand. If they

> cannot contact a parent, then the contact or

> relative would be able to bring in clean clothes. In

> either case, a parent or contact should be called to

> let the parents know what has happened. As a last

> resort, they would handle the problem and send a

> note home to the parent. At that point, I believe,

> they are obligated to update their emergency contact

> info.

>

> Dave

>

>

> Re: ( ) Public Schools

> Tick Me OFF

>

>

> You know I have been considering Home schooling

> for 2 years now and today was the last straw for me,

> My daughter , who has ODD, extream ADHD and a

> mood disorder NOS, was at school and apparently had

> an accident at school, but did the school call us

> NO, instead they take her clothes go get diffrent

> ones, wash her clothes and all and never make on

> call <-- isnt this illigal!!

> I called the school more then angry, the school

> went on to tell me that smells everyday and

> that its an issue, well if its such an issue why has

> no one called, no notes sent home no nothing I have

> spoken to her teacher on the phone before called

> during the school day to check in no one has

> reported this supposed issue, and when i told the

> princible that i had recived a called she said ,

> well you should know your her mom, Ok 1st if i bathe

> my child in the morning and she is clean I can do

> nothing about what happens between my front door and

> school unless THEY CALL!!! when i told them I should

> be called, I was told, well we will call you , and

> WE will clean her.

> I have decided Im done, we are a very very low

> income family I had this issue last year when they

> went a collected bags of NAME BRAND clothes so mary

> would so call 'fit in " and now this BS! enoughs

> enough, just because Im poor doesnt mean Im a bad

> mother and dont deserve to know what is going on

> with my child!

>

> Liz S <lizs.1234@...> wrote:

> ,

> I agree with your feelings totally. It sounds to

> me that the assistant teacher wasn't watching

> everything to see what set him off. It could have

> all been prevented if she had caught things early. I

> know you are reluctant to make an issue of it since

> you have worked so hard to get him there & you are

> worn out. Maybe just bite your tongue this time &

> see if it is an isolated thing? Gee, I know that's

> not great advice though.

> How is your son doing since being home this

> evening? Is he still thinking abut his bad day or

> has he moved on?

> Liz

>

> ladyabyrose <luvkljm@...> wrote:

> Hello to all!

>

> I need to know if I am thinking straight here. My

> son is 7 AS, he if

> finally in a HF Autism Special Ed class.

>

> There was an incident on the playground today. He

> supposedly stomped

> on another child's foot and hit him in the

> stomach.

>

> K. I realize this is wrong for him to do. He told

> me that another

> child who is younger than him and non-ese was

> teasing him. He can't

> understand teasing...and flips.

>

> According to the principal, nobody did anything to

> him,it was all

> him...he had a rough day all around. She also told

> me that the

> assistant teacher was watching very carefully.

>

> My point, regardless of whom is at fault, she only

> has 4 children to

> supervise, If she was watching " very

> carefully...why was this allowed

> to esculate??

>

> My son is in a specific class the teachers are

> supposed to be trained

> in Autism and related behaviors. This class is

> also community based

> for helping with social skills.

>

> I simply can't beleive that NOTHING happened to

> cause him to flip.

>

> It's been a long fight to get him to this class

> and I am tired and I

> am becoming so leary of everything related to

> education!

> Is my thinking off?

>

> Best Wishes to all,

>

> ***A Very Worn Out Aspie Mom!!!

>

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about two years ago, my son and another boy found a hugh mud puddle in the " very

large " school yard. They started making mud balls, then seeing who could make

the tallest mud mountain, then they put a little mud on each other and ended up

rolling in the mud. My son said they were camouflaging themselves. both boys

were covered from toe to the top of their heads in mud. the teacher wouldn't

let neither boy in her classroom and explained to them that they would mess up

her carpet. (mud was all over the corridors). When I picked up my son at the

end of the day, he had on another set of clothes, including socks & sneakers.

with a note attached to the bag of his muddy clothes saying, please return those

borrowed clothes. we need them for emergencies. that's when I found out what

happened. LOL, so, much for supervision in the yard. I guess due to the muddy

condition, it was best for them to just give the boys another set of clothes

instead of leaving them in that mess

waiting for the parents to get to the school. I guess it depends on the

situation the child is in, that the school would decide if they need to get

changed ASAP or if they can wait for the parents to bring in a set of clothes.

<sirdavjohn@...> wrote: If she has soiled her

clothes in an " accident " they should call the parent to bring in clean clothes.

If that is not possible, they must clean her themselves if she is not capable of

cleaning herself. It would be illegal, and clear-cut child abuse if they just

let her sit in it. That is why they have contact numbers of parents or relatives

on hand. If they cannot contact a parent, then the contact or relative would be

able to bring in clean clothes. In either case, a parent or contact should be

called to let the parents know what has happened. As a last resort, they would

handle the problem and send a note home to the parent. At that point, I believe,

they are obligated to update their emergency contact info.

Dave

Re: ( ) Public Schools Tick Me OFF

You know I have been considering Home schooling for 2 years now and today was

the last straw for me, My daughter , who has ODD, extream ADHD and a mood

disorder NOS, was at school and apparently had an accident at school, but did

the school call us NO, instead they take her clothes go get diffrent ones, wash

her clothes and all and never make on call <-- isnt this illigal!!

I called the school more then angry, the school went on to tell me that

smells everyday and that its an issue, well if its such an issue why has no one

called, no notes sent home no nothing I have spoken to her teacher on the phone

before called during the school day to check in no one has reported this

supposed issue, and when i told the princible that i had recived a called she

said , well you should know your her mom, Ok 1st if i bathe my child in the

morning and she is clean I can do nothing about what happens between my front

door and school unless THEY CALL!!! when i told them I should be called, I was

told, well we will call you , and WE will clean her.

I have decided Im done, we are a very very low income family I had this issue

last year when they went a collected bags of NAME BRAND clothes so mary would so

call 'fit in " and now this BS! enoughs enough, just because Im poor doesnt mean

Im a bad mother and dont deserve to know what is going on with my child!

Liz S <lizs.1234@...> wrote:

,

I agree with your feelings totally. It sounds to me that the assistant teacher

wasn't watching everything to see what set him off. It could have all been

prevented if she had caught things early. I know you are reluctant to make an

issue of it since you have worked so hard to get him there & you are worn out.

Maybe just bite your tongue this time & see if it is an isolated thing? Gee, I

know that's not great advice though.

How is your son doing since being home this evening? Is he still thinking abut

his bad day or has he moved on?

Liz

ladyabyrose <luvkljm@...> wrote:

Hello to all!

I need to know if I am thinking straight here. My son is 7 AS, he if

finally in a HF Autism Special Ed class.

There was an incident on the playground today. He supposedly stomped

on another child's foot and hit him in the stomach.

K. I realize this is wrong for him to do. He told me that another

child who is younger than him and non-ese was teasing him. He can't

understand teasing...and flips.

According to the principal, nobody did anything to him,it was all

him...he had a rough day all around. She also told me that the

assistant teacher was watching very carefully.

My point, regardless of whom is at fault, she only has 4 children to

supervise, If she was watching " very carefully...why was this allowed

to esculate??

My son is in a specific class the teachers are supposed to be trained

in Autism and related behaviors. This class is also community based

for helping with social skills.

I simply can't beleive that NOTHING happened to cause him to flip.

It's been a long fight to get him to this class and I am tired and I

am becoming so leary of everything related to education!

Is my thinking off?

Best Wishes to all,

***A Very Worn Out Aspie Mom!!!

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My only suggestion is to send a polite, direct, and firm letter to the

principal. Copies to the school board and those in charge of the committees that

form the IEPs, or whatever there is, stating that you must be called. Add

whatever else you want to happen, sans common sense, since there seems to be a

lack thereof.

Dave

Re: ( ) Public Schools

> Tick Me OFF

>

>

> You know I have been considering Home schooling

> for 2 years now and today was the last straw for me,

> My daughter , who has ODD, extream ADHD and a

> mood disorder NOS, was at school and apparently had

> an accident at school, but did the school call us

> NO, instead they take her clothes go get diffrent

> ones, wash her clothes and all and never make on

> call <-- isnt this illigal!!

> I called the school more then angry, the school

> went on to tell me that smells everyday and

> that its an issue, well if its such an issue why has

> no one called, no notes sent home no nothing I have

> spoken to her teacher on the phone before called

> during the school day to check in no one has

> reported this supposed issue, and when i told the

> princible that i had recived a called she said ,

> well you should know your her mom, Ok 1st if i bathe

> my child in the morning and she is clean I can do

> nothing about what happens between my front door and

> school unless THEY CALL!!! when i told them I should

> be called, I was told, well we will call you , and

> WE will clean her.

> I have decided Im done, we are a very very low

> income family I had this issue last year when they

> went a collected bags of NAME BRAND clothes so mary

> would so call 'fit in " and now this BS! enoughs

> enough, just because Im poor doesnt mean Im a bad

> mother and dont deserve to know what is going on

> with my child!

>

> Liz S <lizs.1234@...> wrote:

> ,

> I agree with your feelings totally. It sounds to

> me that the assistant teacher wasn't watching

> everything to see what set him off. It could have

> all been prevented if she had caught things early. I

> know you are reluctant to make an issue of it since

> you have worked so hard to get him there & you are

> worn out. Maybe just bite your tongue this time &

> see if it is an isolated thing? Gee, I know that's

> not great advice though.

> How is your son doing since being home this

> evening? Is he still thinking abut his bad day or

> has he moved on?

> Liz

>

> ladyabyrose <luvkljm@...> wrote:

> Hello to all!

>

> I need to know if I am thinking straight here. My

> son is 7 AS, he if

> finally in a HF Autism Special Ed class.

>

> There was an incident on the playground today. He

> supposedly stomped

> on another child's foot and hit him in the

> stomach.

>

> K. I realize this is wrong for him to do. He told

> me that another

> child who is younger than him and non-ese was

> teasing him. He can't

> understand teasing...and flips.

>

> According to the principal, nobody did anything to

> him,it was all

> him...he had a rough day all around. She also told

> me that the

> assistant teacher was watching very carefully.

>

> My point, regardless of whom is at fault, she only

> has 4 children to

> supervise, If she was watching " very

> carefully...why was this allowed

> to esculate??

>

> My son is in a specific class the teachers are

> supposed to be trained

> in Autism and related behaviors. This class is

> also community based

> for helping with social skills.

>

> I simply can't beleive that NOTHING happened to

> cause him to flip.

>

> It's been a long fight to get him to this class

> and I am tired and I

> am becoming so leary of everything related to

> education!

> Is my thinking off?

>

> Best Wishes to all,

>

> ***A Very Worn Out Aspie Mom!!!

>

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I agree with you . I only sign some things that come home. I get really

annoyed with " contracts. " It's like their ultimate solution to the problem -

write up a contract. Does this really resolve the problem? Or stop a problem

from happening? Little kids sign whatever you tell them to. It doesn't mean

they understand or are capable of maintaining their " end " of the bargain. They

once had my older ds sign an IEP that he did NOT attend and did not read -

teacher just " highlighted " important parts for him. I had to write a follow up

requesting them to never do that again.

We don't get bilingual messages here. We do get automated phone calls though.

I didn't even think to tell them to stop doing that! I'll have to remember

that.

Roxanna

( ) Re: Public Schools Tick Me OFF

I never sign or return those " contracts " no one has ever said

anything to me about it either. It's common sense stuff, I will not

commit my son to homework either....he maybe moody and it can cause a

serious meltdown. It's simply not worth it to have him sooooo

stressed.

I also refuse bilingual communications, the school also now sends

everything in English...it was a big confusion for him...thinking he

could not read. Besides the law states if your child was previously

or currently enrolled in an esl class that the notifications go home

in the native language. Thats' not us. I refuse to have him confused

when we are trying so hard to read english. Technically, under the

law you do not have to recieve these communications...He freaks

sometimes when he hears it...it " hurts his head " .

It just amazes me how intrusive the schools can be,and what little

regard or consideration to the disabled child.

I also had the " parent link " automated phone calls stopped too. How

anoying that was. Attendence, school pictures...etc. They used to

call my home after 9 in the evening.

So much of this stuff you don't have to participate in if you don't

want to....many just don't question it.

My home is my own. It is actually my sanctuary! I demand to choose

what comes into my home or not. I do not give into the school.

Having my son in this special class teacher wants to know about

anything that is going on at home, personal issues. I don't like that

very much at all!

Sorry, again, I am just really burned out with the schools, I guess

this post was actually another vent. I think I am becoming bitter

towardthe schools.

Thanks for listening...sorry if I got off the topic.

> > > Hello to all!

> > >

> > > I need to know if I am thinking straight here. My son is 7

AS, he

> > if

> > > finally in a HF Autism Special Ed class.

> > >

> > > There was an incident on the playground today. He supposedly

> > stomped

> > > on another child's foot and hit him in the stomach.

> > >

> > > K. I realize this is wrong for him to do. He told me that

another

> > > child who is younger than him and non-ese was teasing him. He

> > can't

> > > understand teasing...and flips.

> > >

> > > According to the principal, nobody did anything to him,it was

all

> > > him...he had a rough day all around. She also told me that

the

> > > assistant teacher was watching very carefully.

> > >

> > > My point, regardless of whom is at fault, she only has 4

children

> > to

> > > supervise, If she was watching " very carefully...why was this

> > allowed

> > > to esculate??

> > >

> > > My son is in a specific class the teachers are supposed to be

> > trained

> > > in Autism and related behaviors. This class is also community

> > based

> > > for helping with social skills.

> > >

> > > I simply can't beleive that NOTHING happened to cause him to

flip.

> > >

> > > It's been a long fight to get him to this class and I am

tired

> > and I

> > > am becoming so leary of everything related to education!

> > > Is my thinking off?

> > >

> > > Best Wishes to all,

> > >

> > > ***A Very Worn Out Aspie Mom!!!

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

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> > your question on Answers.

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This is true. I really am wary sometimes about revealing personal information.

It's not so much that's it is a " big " deal as much as I do not like the lack of

privacy. I really wish the other people at the IEP meeting had to dish the dirt

on their homelife so we could all be on even footing. lol.

At my awful meeting last week, they had asked my 10 yo what he did at night

while he was not sleeping. He replied he stayed up playing nintendo all night.

Well, they just believed him and so I sat there and got a lecture on how to

parent and how stimulating video games are, blah blah blah. I was told what

time to cut off nintendo, what time to prepare him for bed...and on and on. I

wanted to scream, " Do I look like a moron to you? " Instead I just sat there and

stared at her, wondering when the parenting lesson would be over with. She

never once asked me if it was true. I guess she just assumed or I look

especially slow witted to her. ??? I don't know.

Roxanna

Re: ( ) Re: Public Schools Tick Me OFF

No i totaly agree with you, I mean think back 20 yrs ago when we were in

schools teachers didnt care what happened at home never questioned anything, a

kind could come to school beaten black and blue no one said anything, now our

kids are in school and they decide they want ever detail, did you get a bath

this morning, what did you have for dinner,do you have Tommy Hillgiar clothing,

.... what tv do you watch.. There has to be a middle some where this is stupid!

ladyabyrose <luvkljm@...> wrote:

I never sign or return those " contracts " no one has ever said

anything to me about it either. It's common sense stuff, I will not

commit my son to homework either....he maybe moody and it can cause a

serious meltdown. It's simply not worth it to have him sooooo

stressed.

I also refuse bilingual communications, the school also now sends

everything in English...it was a big confusion for him...thinking he

could not read. Besides the law states if your child was previously

or currently enrolled in an esl class that the notifications go home

in the native language. Thats' not us. I refuse to have him confused

when we are trying so hard to read english. Technically, under the

law you do not have to recieve these communications...He freaks

sometimes when he hears it...it " hurts his head " .

It just amazes me how intrusive the schools can be,and what little

regard or consideration to the disabled child.

I also had the " parent link " automated phone calls stopped too. How

anoying that was. Attendence, school pictures...etc. They used to

call my home after 9 in the evening.

So much of this stuff you don't have to participate in if you don't

want to....many just don't question it.

My home is my own. It is actually my sanctuary! I demand to choose

what comes into my home or not. I do not give into the school.

Having my son in this special class teacher wants to know about

anything that is going on at home, personal issues. I don't like that

very much at all!

Sorry, again, I am just really burned out with the schools, I guess

this post was actually another vent. I think I am becoming bitter

towardthe schools.

Thanks for listening...sorry if I got off the topic.

> > > Hello to all!

> > >

> > > I need to know if I am thinking straight here. My son is 7

AS, he

> > if

> > > finally in a HF Autism Special Ed class.

> > >

> > > There was an incident on the playground today. He supposedly

> > stomped

> > > on another child's foot and hit him in the stomach.

> > >

> > > K. I realize this is wrong for him to do. He told me that

another

> > > child who is younger than him and non-ese was teasing him. He

> > can't

> > > understand teasing...and flips.

> > >

> > > According to the principal, nobody did anything to him,it was

all

> > > him...he had a rough day all around. She also told me that

the

> > > assistant teacher was watching very carefully.

> > >

> > > My point, regardless of whom is at fault, she only has 4

children

> > to

> > > supervise, If she was watching " very carefully...why was this

> > allowed

> > > to esculate??

> > >

> > > My son is in a specific class the teachers are supposed to be

> > trained

> > > in Autism and related behaviors. This class is also community

> > based

> > > for helping with social skills.

> > >

> > > I simply can't beleive that NOTHING happened to cause him to

flip.

> > >

> > > It's been a long fight to get him to this class and I am

tired

> > and I

> > > am becoming so leary of everything related to education!

> > > Is my thinking off?

> > >

> > > Best Wishes to all,

> > >

> > > ***A Very Worn Out Aspie Mom!!!

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > > Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know.

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> > your question on Answers.

> > >

> > >

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Roxanna,

I agree completely. It bothers me a great deal when I am

asked " why " and " how " things got this way in our family or for my

son. Just this week I had to snap back (I think it is humorous now,

but not at the time) at a special needs administrator who recently

asked my son why he did not " seek help " .

My reply was " Mam, it is autism. He is not going to tell you what

he is thinking, because he is thinking of " self " . That is

what " Aut " is all about. You need to go into his world at times and

ask a question " ........

Oh well ............. it is all so exasperating. I try real hard to

keep myself calm.

Mark

> > > > Hello to all!

> > > >

> > > > I need to know if I am thinking straight here. My son is 7

> AS, he

> > > if

> > > > finally in a HF Autism Special Ed class.

> > > >

> > > > There was an incident on the playground today. He

supposedly

> > > stomped

> > > > on another child's foot and hit him in the stomach.

> > > >

> > > > K. I realize this is wrong for him to do. He told me that

> another

> > > > child who is younger than him and non-ese was teasing him.

He

> > > can't

> > > > understand teasing...and flips.

> > > >

> > > > According to the principal, nobody did anything to him,it

was

> all

> > > > him...he had a rough day all around. She also told me that

> the

> > > > assistant teacher was watching very carefully.

> > > >

> > > > My point, regardless of whom is at fault, she only has 4

> children

> > > to

> > > > supervise, If she was watching " very carefully...why was

this

> > > allowed

> > > > to esculate??

> > > >

> > > > My son is in a specific class the teachers are supposed to

be

> > > trained

> > > > in Autism and related behaviors. This class is also

community

> > > based

> > > > for helping with social skills.

> > > >

> > > > I simply can't beleive that NOTHING happened to cause him

to

> flip.

> > > >

> > > > It's been a long fight to get him to this class and I am

> tired

> > > and I

> > > > am becoming so leary of everything related to education!

> > > > Is my thinking off?

> > > >

> > > > Best Wishes to all,

> > > >

> > > > ***A Very Worn Out Aspie Mom!!!

> > > >

> > > > ---------------------------------

> > > > Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who

know.

> Ask

> > > your question on Answers.

> > > >

> > > >

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