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Ok, that's it, you blew it now. You have to change your name to Haveaclue. :)

Thanks for that information. Keep us posted.

Earth's revolving magnetic field. Cool! I like that.

Didn't ask about DST did ya?

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From: noclue915@...

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 22:37

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Important-Dr. B visit

Hello everyone ,

Just came back from a followup with Dr. Bihari. He said the Circadian Clock had nothing to do with LDN, but rather the earths revolving magnetic field does. That is why LDN should be taken at night even if you work in the day. Circadian rhythem is not a factor.

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Hi ,

Dr. Bihari address is- 29Weast 15th Street, New York

Phone # is 212-929-4196

He charges $500 for a first time 2 hour visit or phone consult. Sounds expensive, but for a Manhatten Dr. it is quite fair. . I have paid$ 300-700 for 5minutes and came out with zero info.

If you ask, they will give you Insurance form filled out, It is up to your Insurance Company whether they will reimburse you.

Just sent info on DL_phen... to group

Hope this helps Kiki

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The earth's magnetic field does not revolve. The poles alternate

every few million years, and our north pole is slowly heading south

but I would not wait for it to arrive in Antarctica any time soon.

It is a static magnetic field, while things like the one around the

yoke of your CRT, for instance, alternate. It does keep life on

earth safe from cosmic and other radiation. If it were not there we

could not be alive!

The circadian variation in the body's release of endorphin is well

documented in both nocturnal and diurnal mammals.

There is a definite circadian variation in *my* symptoms. I think

my endorphin and possibly other released hormones have an effect.

I have taken LDN at various times and dosages, and I'm currently

taking it a night, as per the usual practise, because I think a lot

of brain-repair takes place during sleep. I take 3mg but will likely

increase to 4.5mg. I think we are improving our ability to produce

endorphin, and this is not immediate. Once we are good at it our

levels will not drop so low during the low times, or so I believe.

I have also taken to including a bunch of vitamins before sleep as

well.

Unfortunately we lack a lot of facts, so we do tend to relate things

as if we knew them as gospel. Recently, Larry and I have discussed

a paper which throws cold water on the common notion that MS is an

auto-immune disease. I think many neurologists hold that notion.

I didn't steal Dr. Bihari's verbiage though I'm sure it was influenced

by him and by the website and probably a lot of folks on this list.

The graph came from Microsoft Excel's most excellent SINE function.

I have never seen Dr. Bihari's research paper, though I would like

to.

-Sullivan

> Hello everyone ,

> Just came back from a followup with Dr. Bihari. He said the

Circadian Clock

> had nothing to do with LDN, but rather the earths revolving

magnetic field

> does. That is why LDN should be taken at night even if you work in

the day.

> Circadian rhythem is not a factor.

>

> Showed Dr. B the graph sent of 24hr. beta endorphin release. He

said the

> graph was from his research paper but the wording was not his, and

was incorrect!

>

> ***Also- Dr. B suggested taking LD-Phnylaline 500mgs in the

morning. May

> help endorphin level last longer during day.

>

>

>

> Please everyone, do not write posts that are assumptions or

opinions, and

> post them as facts. This can be very dangerous to all of us.

>

> ***I also asked about how often I should have my liver tested. He

said once a

> year, when I get my physical, which is normal for most everyone.

>

> He also changed my dose to a surprising higher amount. I am to test

for a few

> days and will report back to all on results. Kiki

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Kiki:

What size dose were you changed to?

Noland

----- Original Message -----

From: noclue915@...

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 8:37 PM

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Important-Dr. B visit

Hello everyone ,

Just came back from a followup with Dr. Bihari. He said the Circadian Clock had nothing to do with LDN, but rather the earths revolving magnetic field does. That is why LDN should be taken at night even if you work in the day. Circadian rhythem is not a factor.

Showed Dr. B the graph sent of 24hr. beta endorphin release. He said the graph was from his research paper but the wording was not his, and was incorrect!

***Also- Dr. B suggested taking LD-Phnylaline 500mgs in the morning. May help endorphin level last longer during day.

Please everyone, do not write posts that are assumptions or opinions, and post them as facts. This can be very dangerous to all of us.

***I also asked about how often I should have my liver tested. He said once a year, when I get my physical, which is normal for most everyone.

He also changed my dose to a surprising higher amount. I am to test for a few days and will report back to all on results. Kiki

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Kiki, Thank you for this post, it was most informative. You are so

right...some times we all post things that are just our opinion and

we should put a disclaimer first...lol...or just add " My two cents "

after spilling our guts...lol.

Were you on 4.5mg LDN and Dr Bahari raised it higher than that? I

will be waiting for your reaction to the higher doseage.

Sally

> Hello everyone ,

> Just came back from a followup with Dr. Bihari. He said the

Circadian Clock

> had nothing to do with LDN, but rather the earths revolving

magnetic field

> does. That is why LDN should be taken at night even if you work

in the day.

> Circadian rhythem is not a factor.

>

> Showed Dr. B the graph sent of 24hr. beta endorphin release. He

said the

> graph was from his research paper but the wording was not his, and

was incorrect!

>

> ***Also- Dr. B suggested taking LD-Phnylaline 500mgs in the

morning. May

> help endorphin level last longer during day.

>

>

>

> Please everyone, do not write posts that are assumptions or

opinions, and

> post them as facts. This can be very dangerous to all of us.

>

> ***I also asked about how often I should have my liver tested. He

said once a

> year, when I get my physical, which is normal for most everyone.

>

> He also changed my dose to a surprising higher amount. I am to

test for a few

> days and will report back to all on results. Kiki

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Yes Larry and it may mean that the " solar event " that happened a

while back, may very well have effected our MS health. As I recall

the magnetic field was effected adversely by that solar event...what

do you think?

Sally

--- In low dose naltrexone , " LarryGC " <larrygc@s...>

wrote:

> Ok, that's it, you blew it now. You have to change your name to

Haveaclue. :)

>

> Thanks for that information. Keep us posted.

>

> Earth's revolving magnetic field. Cool! I like that.

>

> Didn't ask about DST did ya?

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: noclue915@a...

> low dose naltrexone

> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 22:37

> Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Important-Dr. B visit

>

>

> Hello everyone ,

> Just came back from a followup with Dr. Bihari. He said the

Circadian Clock had nothing to do with LDN, but rather the earths

revolving magnetic field does. That is why LDN should be taken at

night even if you work in the day. Circadian rhythem is not a factor.

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