Re: Nightime dosing??

May 19, 2006

My son wouldn't take it out of a syringe either. I use a medicine spoon that

stands up, I put about 5ml of liquid and the DMSA/ALA. Shake it up and stick

in a straw. I go in, sit my son on my lap and tell him time for a big sip.

I put the straw to his lips and he sips. Whatever little is left I say " a

little more " and I pour it in his mouth. In the beginning it didn't all go in.

I

don't say any more to him than I have to. He may fight or cry a little, in

the beginning it was a nightmare. But later on in rounds it was so routine for

him that when he heard " time for a big sip " he opened his mouth for the straw

and when I said " a little more " he opened his mouth wider. I'd lay him back

down and be on my way. It gets easier and becomes routine.

Kerrie

In a message dated 5/19/2006 2:50:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

queenvavee@... writes:

We are doing well on our first round with DMSA/ALA. He is taking it

every three to three and half hours. The problem we are having, last

night was his first night. There was no way of just letting him suck

the stuff out of his syringe. He is too sensitive a sleeper. He did

wake up and we had screaming, kicking, etc. Covering his mouth and

fighting all out that he was not drinking nothing. He told me to go

away so he could go back to sleep. I stayed and put up my guns on this

one until he finally caved in and drank it. After 45 minutes and

waking up the whole house.

Any suggestion? I know that he needs to take it but I cannot force it

in him or he will vomit it up. During the day, he drinks it without

any hassle. Thanks for any suggestions.

(http://paulchelation.blogspot.com/)

May 19, 2006

My kids do really well with social stories. Maybe if you told him

before he went to bed that you were going to be coming in a few times

and giving him his meds and that after he had his drink he could go

right back to sleep. How old is he? I use TD and my daughter is a

light sleeper. She would half wake up and fight me until I started to

tell her when I would be coming in and what to expect. It got much

easier. My son sleeps through the whole thing! 8)

I hope it goes easier tonight.

>

> We are doing well on our first round with DMSA/ALA. He is taking it

> every three to three and half hours. The problem we are having, last

> night was his first night. There was no way of just letting him suck

> the stuff out of his syringe. He is too sensitive a sleeper. He did

> wake up and we had screaming, kicking, etc. Covering his mouth and

> fighting all out that he was not drinking nothing. He told me to go

> away so he could go back to sleep. I stayed and put up my guns on

this

> one until he finally caved in and drank it. After 45 minutes and

> waking up the whole house.

>

> Any suggestion? I know that he needs to take it but I cannot force

it

> in him or he will vomit it up. During the day, he drinks it without

> any hassle. Thanks for any suggestions.

>

May 19, 2006

He is 3.5 years old. I have been explaining it to him that I will be

comming in and such. But I don't think he really understood what I

meant until I was there in the middle of the night. Since we do not

have a doctor, we cannot get TD. I really hope we don't have as much

fight tonight. I will look into the social stories.

By the way, can chelation stir up a fever? He feels warm after

waking from nap, it could be nothing. But you never know.

> >

> > We are doing well on our first round with DMSA/ALA. He is taking

it

> > every three to three and half hours. The problem we are having,

last

> > night was his first night. There was no way of just letting him

suck

> > the stuff out of his syringe. He is too sensitive a sleeper. He

did

> > wake up and we had screaming, kicking, etc. Covering his mouth

and

> > fighting all out that he was not drinking nothing. He told me to

go

> > away so he could go back to sleep. I stayed and put up my guns

on

> this

> > one until he finally caved in and drank it. After 45 minutes and

> > waking up the whole house.

> >

> > Any suggestion? I know that he needs to take it but I cannot

force

> it

> > in him or he will vomit it up. During the day, he drinks it

without

> > any hassle. Thanks for any suggestions.

> >

>

May 19, 2006

Hi Jan,

I would just tell him " remember when I came in last night and gave

you your medicine? Remember you were scared and screamed? I am

going to come in again tonight to give you your meds so you will

get better. You don't need to be scared. You can go right back to

sleep... etc. Tell him many times during the day and I think he

will get it. It is just something different and he will adjust.

Getting TD may not solve the problem because my ADHD daughter had

problems with the TD (waking up, fighting me, etc.) She has

adjusted and it isn't a problem anymore. Hang in there. Sorry, I

don't know about the fever.

> > >

> > > We are doing well on our first round with DMSA/ALA. He is

taking

> it

> > > every three to three and half hours. The problem we are

having,

> last

> > > night was his first night. There was no way of just letting

him

> suck

> > > the stuff out of his syringe. He is too sensitive a sleeper.

He

> did

> > > wake up and we had screaming, kicking, etc. Covering his mouth

> and

> > > fighting all out that he was not drinking nothing. He told me

to

> go

> > > away so he could go back to sleep. I stayed and put up my guns

> on

> > this

> > > one until he finally caved in and drank it. After 45 minutes

and

> > > waking up the whole house.

> > >

> > > Any suggestion? I know that he needs to take it but I cannot

> force

> > it

> > > in him or he will vomit it up. During the day, he drinks it

> without

> > > any hassle. Thanks for any suggestions.

> > >

> >

>

May 19, 2006

,

Hey no problem with the fever. I am not sure he is actually running

a temp. He just feels a little warmer than normal to me. But thanks

for all the tips. I think it is a battle of the wills with him

mostly. Just like the potty. If he doesn't want to then he will give

you a ton of trouble! We did just make a book on the computer

together that we can read about how we take our medicine in the

daytime and sometimes at night. I hope it goes better. I know hubby

was a bit peed last night at being woke up. Thanks again.

> > > >

> > > > We are doing well on our first round with DMSA/ALA. He is

> taking

> > it

> > > > every three to three and half hours. The problem we are

> having,

> > last

> > > > night was his first night. There was no way of just letting

> him

> > suck

> > > > the stuff out of his syringe. He is too sensitive a sleeper.

> He

> > did

> > > > wake up and we had screaming, kicking, etc. Covering his

mouth

> > and

> > > > fighting all out that he was not drinking nothing. He told

me

> to

> > go

> > > > away so he could go back to sleep. I stayed and put up my

guns

> > on

> > > this

> > > > one until he finally caved in and drank it. After 45 minutes

> and

> > > > waking up the whole house.

> > > >

> > > > Any suggestion? I know that he needs to take it but I cannot

> > force

> > > it

> > > > in him or he will vomit it up. During the day, he drinks it

> > without

> > > > any hassle. Thanks for any suggestions.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

May 19, 2006

Jan wrote:

I know hubby was a bit peed last night at being woke up. Thanks again.

I shouldn't say anything, but that never stops me. He's lucky he's not the one

getting up and giving the kid the medicine and should be so grateful you are

willing to help his kid that he doesn't mind a temporary wake up. I would make

sure I would wake him up every night.

Jan, it usually takes a few nights to get them used to taking the chelators at

night. It did ours, now she doesn't even fully wake up. Hope it goes easier for

you.

> > > >

> > > > We are doing well on our first round with DMSA/ALA. He is

> taking

> > it

> > > > every three to three and half hours. The problem we are

> having,

> > last

> > > > night was his first night. There was no way of just letting

> him

> > suck

> > > > the stuff out of his syringe. He is too sensitive a sleeper.

> He

> > did

> > > > wake up and we had screaming, kicking, etc. Covering his

mouth

> > and

> > > > fighting all out that he was not drinking nothing. He told

me

> to

> > go

> > > > away so he could go back to sleep. I stayed and put up my

guns

> > on

> > > this

> > > > one until he finally caved in and drank it. After 45 minutes

> and

> > > > waking up the whole house.

> > > >

> > > > Any suggestion? I know that he needs to take it but I cannot

> > force

> > > it

> > > > in him or he will vomit it up. During the day, he drinks it

> > without

> > > > any hassle. Thanks for any suggestions.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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May 19, 2006

I certainly understand the battle of the wills. My ASD son isn't

too bad but my ADHD daughter is such a challenge!!! I hope you have

a more peaceful evening.

> > > > >

> > > > > We are doing well on our first round with DMSA/ALA. He is

> > taking

> > > it

> > > > > every three to three and half hours. The problem we are

> > having,

> > > last

> > > > > night was his first night. There was no way of just

letting

> > him

> > > suck

> > > > > the stuff out of his syringe. He is too sensitive a

sleeper.

> > He

> > > did

> > > > > wake up and we had screaming, kicking, etc. Covering his

> mouth

> > > and

> > > > > fighting all out that he was not drinking nothing. He told

> me

> > to

> > > go

> > > > > away so he could go back to sleep. I stayed and put up my

> guns

> > > on

> > > > this

> > > > > one until he finally caved in and drank it. After 45

minutes

> > and

> > > > > waking up the whole house.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any suggestion? I know that he needs to take it but I

cannot

> > > force

> > > > it

> > > > > in him or he will vomit it up. During the day, he drinks

it

> > > without

> > > > > any hassle. Thanks for any suggestions.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

May 19, 2006

,

Yes, I did point that fact out to him. He was mainly getting upset

at the fact that we were into 45 minutes of howling. He said, just

make him drink it already. But I know better than to force it on

him. He is good at vomiting it up if you force him.

Don't worry..I am making him get up in the morning so I can catch a

few extra hours!! Hey, all this sounds familiar. Like when we were

doing night feedings 3 years ago, and the baby would not go back to

sleep. He would cry and scream, unless I rocked him all night. Man,

we had some fights back then about sleep too. I never got any, he

got some. They have no clue, do they!!

> > > > >

> > > > > We are doing well on our first round with DMSA/ALA. He is

> > taking

> > > it

> > > > > every three to three and half hours. The problem we are

> > having,

> > > last

> > > > > night was his first night. There was no way of just

letting

> > him

> > > suck

> > > > > the stuff out of his syringe. He is too sensitive a

sleeper.

> > He

> > > did

> > > > > wake up and we had screaming, kicking, etc. Covering his

> mouth

> > > and

> > > > > fighting all out that he was not drinking nothing. He told

> me

> > to

> > > go

> > > > > away so he could go back to sleep. I stayed and put up my

> guns

> > > on

> > > > this

> > > > > one until he finally caved in and drank it. After 45

minutes

> > and

> > > > > waking up the whole house.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any suggestion? I know that he needs to take it but I

cannot

> > > force

> > > > it

> > > > > in him or he will vomit it up. During the day, he drinks

it

> > > without

> > > > > any hassle. Thanks for any suggestions.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

> =======================================================

>

May 20, 2006

Guess 45 minutes of howling can get to you, for sure. Lucky, ours does not have

a very good gag reflex, very lucky, that complicates things.