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so, now im real confused. some months ago, my son (aka, tough nut) took the

neurotransmitter test. the results showed he was high in some of the

excitotoxins. also, his dan doc expl that my son's glutamine levels are

elevated; glutamine in the body is converted to glutaMATE. glutaMATE is an

excitatory brain chemical and can cause premature cellular inflammation. when

glutaMATE goes too high, it should be converted into GABA.

the test showed that my son's body is not converting enough glutaMATE to GABA.

most is staying as glutaMATE causing excitotoxicity in the brain. in my son,

glutamine is basically becomming trapped at the level of glutaMATE.

my son was prescribed " namenda " which is a glutaMATE receptor anatagonist and

used to block excess glutaMATE. the med didnt do well with my son.

anyway, larry, is it possible to get a more detailed explanation on the

glutamine/

glutaMATE connection? tx!

vicki

Mommy Boy <mommy.boy@...> wrote:

Hi,

Very interesting. I wonder how the transformation occurs between glutamine,

glutamate and glutamic acid that can reflect in urine and blood tests.

Anyone knows?

So glutamine is not an excitotoxin? Are glutamate and glutamic acid

excitory toxins?

On 9/8/06, Larry Newman <larry@...> wrote:

>

> This question has come up a lot lately and I have checked the matter

> out

> with two prominent biochemists. Protein contains glutamine, not glutamate.

> Unless unique acidic conditions exist in the kidneys (rare), glutamine is

> not coverted to glutamate in the body. It seems that there are a lot of

> misconceptions about this. The amino acid glutamine has therefore

> erroneously been labeled an exitotoxin.

>

>

> [ ] glutamate

>

> I did search the archives but didn't find exactly what I was looking

> for.

> Does anyone know anything about glutamate...it is an excitotoxin right?

> So there are some foods that naturally contain glutamate, like protein

> foods...what does anyone know about eliminating excitotoxins from the

> diet. Most of our kids need protein right? And the high proteins

> contain natural glutamate?

> See my dilemma?

>

> Thank you-

> Hope

>

>

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Vicki: have you found anymore info out on this, my son tests the same..

[ ] glutamate

>

> I did search the archives but didn't find exactly what I was looking

> for.

> Does anyone know anything about glutamate...it is an excitotoxin

right?

> So there are some foods that naturally contain glutamate, like protein

> foods...what does anyone know about eliminating excitotoxins from the

> diet. Most of our kids need protein right? And the high proteins

> contain natural glutamate?

> See my dilemma?

>

> Thank you-

> Hope

>

>

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