Guest guest Posted June 17, 2000 Report Share Posted June 17, 2000 Hello Lulu, Propylene glycol is a substance that is approved by the FDA (Food and Drug Administration). This means it is fine to use in foods and drugs. It is found in foodstuffs (from Twinkies to candies) as well as cosmetics. It has various and several uses. In melt and pour soaps, its purpose is as an solvent, to keep things flowing--it's what makes the heating and pouring process possible. To my knowledge, you can't make M & P without it. It's also an excellent solvent for thinning rosins (resins). PG also keeps things moist and maleable (from the cream in a Twinkie to the paste in your toothpaste tube). If you'd like a more technical breakdown of the way PG is made from scratch, let me know. I can provide the synthesis info, but it's kind of droll.... Cheers, Trina Wallace -- Snowdrift Farm Natural Products, Inc. Quality Doesn't Have to Cost a Fortune! Check our 53 Tips for Yourself, Your Family, Your Home http://www.snowdriftfarm.com/tipsntechs.html Lulu asked: Hi, Could somebody elaborate on Propylene Glicol?. Some people say it is not safe to use on the skin, other point out that lots of commercial cremes and even edible stuff use it, I have seen massage oils made with JUST PG and fragance oils. Is this safe? Is PG a preservative? WHAT is PG? LOL LOL Thanks a lot LuLu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2001 Report Share Posted August 6, 2001 Ethylene diglycol is what is commonly used in commercial antifreeze and is poisonous if ingested. Propylene glycol is a non-toxic synthetic glycerine derived from petroleum. Substitute USP. glycerine for propylene glycol. > thank you so much and for your reply. That was a nice > explanation. I remembered from Chemisty that propylene glycol was used > as an antifreeze agent. So I was wondering if there was a " safer " > lotion agent that was offered out there. > as pets are often licking our lovely scented lotions, i want to offer > something that won't make the animals or people sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2001 Report Share Posted August 6, 2001 Propylene Glycol is also used in most margarines, ice creams, many spreadable edibles and toothpastes, toothpastes also often contain SLS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2001 Report Share Posted August 6, 2001 Propylene Glycol is actually used as in antifreeze marketed to be safe for animals. Like if you spill a little bit of regular Ethylene Glycol and your doggy licks it up, he's in big trouble. If your doggy is known for licking up antifreeze then you would want to buy the kind made with Propylene glycol, cause it is safe for animals. ) > thank you so much and for your reply. That was a nice > explanation. I remembered from Chemisty that propylene glycol was used > as an antifreeze agent. So I was wondering if there was a " safer " > lotion agent that was offered out there. > as pets are often licking our lovely scented lotions, i want to offer > something that won't make the animals or people sick. > thanks again, > peggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2001 Report Share Posted August 6, 2001 reality check, people. SALT is used as an antifreeze agent... just because something has the ability to withstand changes in temperature, or to affect changes in temperature, it doesn't mean it's inherently evil and shouldn't be used on skin nor should we decide that because something isn't safe to use NEAT on the skin that it should be avoided - if we did that, we'd never use EOs. Yes, PG is detrimental to the skin when used neat. So is rosemary essential oil. So what? Propylene glycol is a safe, proven skin care ingredient (obviously when used within CIR guidelines), with NO credible, peer-reviewed evidence to suggest otherwise. If you don't want to use PG because you are trying to avoid synthetic ingredients, fine, but don't dress it up with " oooo, it's bad for you " nonsense. BTW...there are a LOT of other ingredients in lotions that will make Spot or Fluffy sick if they lick them up - shall we start a frantic thread on the evils of essential oils too? Or emulsifying waxes? There are no commercial MP bases that do not use PG unless they are either murky or loaded with synthetic detergents. PG is used because it is inherently more temperature stable than ethanol, the traditional solvent in transparent soap. Jules in Vancouver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 This is a true fact, salt can be used as an antifreeze... The reality check is that this is a conversation that everybody can, and is invited to, comment on. As and I stated, it is a chemical that is said to be safe for use in cosmetics in concentrations up to 50%. You eat it, we eat it, fluffy, trigger, the goats, cat, dog, etc, eat absorb and use PG for antifreeze. I haven't seen anybody say quit using PG. Just alot of info on the different areas/ items that PG is used. IMHO this has been a good ongoing conversation. There are some people out there that do not know this stuff. That is why there are the different lists... People can learn and make their own informed decisions on whether they would like to use an item in there own products. Thanks for all the different info!!! ) & www.betweenfriendstoo.com Suppliers of exotic/fixed oils, butters,containers for all your body essentials. Re: propylene glycol reality check, people. SALT is used as an antifreeze agent... Jules in Vancouver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 >>>This is a true fact, salt can be used as an antifreeze... The reality check is that this is a conversation that everybody can, and is invited to, comment on. As and I stated, it is a chemical that is said to be safe for use in cosmetics in concentrations up to 50%. <<< I think it's a personal decision - I for one don't buy into the fact that just because a government body declares it is 'safe' to use - that it is. Prime example is medications that have been used after approval by the government and then caused birth defects.... There are SO many examples of this type of thing happening... I think the increases in many cancers (and other diseases) are chemically related...Look at the chemicals we are all exposed to day in and day out... Then you've got your 'green grass' people that spray chemicals on the lawn because they want a 'perfect' lawn. Where exactly do they think THOSE chemicals end up? It soaks into the ground...it gets into the drinking water! Just because Fido and Fifi can lick it now and not show any effects doesn't necessarily make it safe... Like I said it's a personal preference and I for one am glad to have the information and where possible will chose not to use any more chemicals than necessary... Cori --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 7/19/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2002 Report Share Posted March 20, 2002 Judy, I would like to know the website address. Thanks. ¸..·´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- Sage -:¦:- -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2002 Report Share Posted March 21, 2002 Propylene Glycol Judy, I would like to know the website address. Thanks. Me too please, Jacque May you get everything you want in life, not just what you deserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2002 Report Share Posted March 21, 2002 check out: http://www.caprinesupply.com If you cannot find it on their site, call Connie 1-913-585-1191 Judy At 02:35 PM 3/21/02 -0500, you wrote: >Propylene Glycol >Judy, >I would like to know the website address. Thanks. > >Me too please, Jacque > > > >May you get everything you want in life, >not just what you deserve. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2002 Report Share Posted July 20, 2002 Thank you Cat and Judy. The info on glycerin is very helpful. And, the site did help, they do have it available to purchase. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!! And Neo, the hairless butt dog, thanks you! Kay and Stoli Please visit our Soap for Hope site Selling soap for weimaraner rescue <A HREF= " http://www.weim.net/stoli/ " >Soap for hope</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2002 Report Share Posted July 20, 2002 At 03:55 PM 7/20/02 +0000, you wrote: >Hi, >I am searching for a source of Propylene Glycol. Try: www.caprinesupply.com I know they have it on their shelf in their store. Call them if you don't see it on their website. Good luck! Judy www.sunrisesoap.com Created to Appeal to All Your Senses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2002 Report Share Posted July 20, 2002 At 03:55 PM 7/20/02 +0000, you wrote: >Hi, >I am searching for a source of Propylene Glycol. Try: www.caprinesupply.com I know they have it on their shelf in their store. Call them if you don't see it on their website. Good luck! Judy www.sunrisesoap.com Created to Appeal to All Your Senses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2002 Report Share Posted July 20, 2002 Hi Kay: I'm not sure where to buy propylene glycol...I would just substitute liquid glycerine (found at drug and health food stores) for it. While they are not identical, they are very similar in molecular makeup. Cat > Hi, > I am searching for a source of Propylene Glycol. It is listed in > most soap ingredients (glycerin soap base), a lot of shower > gels......... I just need a small amount. Yes, I do realize that > this is the same stuff used in antifreeze and to de-ice airplanes! > However, this is what the vet recommended for a dog in my rescue > group with a rare skin condition. I, however, am looking into > alternatives, so if you don't respond real quickly, i won't be too > disappointed. I said I would ask. > > Thanks, > Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2002 Report Share Posted July 20, 2002 Hi Kay: I'm not sure where to buy propylene glycol...I would just substitute liquid glycerine (found at drug and health food stores) for it. While they are not identical, they are very similar in molecular makeup. Cat > Hi, > I am searching for a source of Propylene Glycol. It is listed in > most soap ingredients (glycerin soap base), a lot of shower > gels......... I just need a small amount. Yes, I do realize that > this is the same stuff used in antifreeze and to de-ice airplanes! > However, this is what the vet recommended for a dog in my rescue > group with a rare skin condition. I, however, am looking into > alternatives, so if you don't respond real quickly, i won't be too > disappointed. I said I would ask. > > Thanks, > Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2002 Report Share Posted July 21, 2002 Hi Kay Propylene Glycol can be found at Feed Stores or most livestock/farm stores. It is used for milk fever in goats, cows, and sheep. It is not very costly. You can also purchase Wheat Germ Oil and Mineral Oil by the gallon for a lot less than conventional stores. Aquila Ranch __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 Something interesting - had allergy testing. Allergic to propylene glycol, in everything. CNS depressant! In my makeup,lotions,deodorant,shampoo,chocolate,prcaine patches,antifreeze.... When I get in contact with it,it screws up my balance very much and makes my sleepy. It may be effecting some of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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