Heavy metals may be implicated in autism

May 25, 2006

In a message dated 25/05/2006 11:03:37 GMT Standard Time, sharon_asd_uk@... writes:

Now THIS is INTERESTING

Sure is have already forwarded it to my paediatrician, telling her we have began using EDTA for s high lead levels and have offered to give her and any other staff interested a presentation on biomed when I come to discuss s test results at the end of June (gulp) better start swotting!!

Keep ya posted.

Luv Caroline

xxx

May 25, 2006

Now THIS is INTERESTING!

>

> heavy metals may be implicated in autism

> * 27 May 2006

> * From New Scientist Print Edition. _Subscribe_

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> issues.

> URINE samples from hundreds of French children have yielded

evidence for a

> link between autism and exposure to heavy metals. If validated,

the findings

> might mean some cases of autism could be treated with drugs that

purge the

> body of heavy metals.

>

> Samples from children with autism contained abnormally high levels

of a

> family of proteins called porphyrins, which are precursors in the

production of

> haem, the oxygen-carrying component in haemoglobin. Heavy metals

block haem

> production, causing porphyrins to accumulate in urine.

Concentrations of one

> molecule, coproporphyrin, were 2.6 times as high in urine from

children with

> autism as in controls.

> Autism is thought to have a number of unknown genetic and

environmental

> causes. Lathe of Pieta Research in Edinburgh, UK, says he

has found one

> of these factors. " It's highly likely that heavy metals are

responsible for

> childhood autistic disorder in a majority of cases, " he claims. The

study will

> appear in Toxicology and Applied Pharmacology.

> Lathe says these porphyrin metabolites bind to receptors in the

brain and

> have been linked with epilepsy and autism.

> The researchers restored porphyrin concentrations to normal in 12

children by

> treating them with " chelation " drugs that mop up heavy metals and

are then

> excreted. It is not yet known whether the children's symptoms have

eased, but

> Lathe cites anecdotal reports suggesting the drugs might do some

good.

> From issue 2553 of New Scientist magazine, 27 May 2006, page 21

> _http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?

id=mg19025535.400 & feedId=health_rss20_

>

> (http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?

id=mg19025535.400 & feedId=health_rss20)

>

May 25, 2006

Now THIS is INTERESTING!

>

> heavy metals may be implicated in autism

> * 27 May 2006

> * From New Scientist Print Edition. _Subscribe_

> (http://www.newscientist.com/subscribe.ns;jsessionid=DJDCLMGGFAFI?

promcode=nsarttop) and get 4 free

> issues.

> URINE samples from hundreds of French children have yielded

evidence for a

> link between autism and exposure to heavy metals. If validated,

the findings

> might mean some cases of autism could be treated with drugs that

purge the

> body of heavy metals.

>

> Samples from children with autism contained abnormally high levels

of a

> family of proteins called porphyrins, which are precursors in the

production of

> haem, the oxygen-carrying component in haemoglobin. Heavy metals

block haem

> production, causing porphyrins to accumulate in urine.

Concentrations of one

> molecule, coproporphyrin, were 2.6 times as high in urine from

children with

> autism as in controls.

> Autism is thought to have a number of unknown genetic and

environmental

> causes. Lathe of Pieta Research in Edinburgh, UK, says he

has found one

> of these factors. " It's highly likely that heavy metals are

responsible for

> childhood autistic disorder in a majority of cases, " he claims. The

study will

> appear in Toxicology and Applied Pharmacology.

> Lathe says these porphyrin metabolites bind to receptors in the

brain and

> have been linked with epilepsy and autism.

> The researchers restored porphyrin concentrations to normal in 12

children by

> treating them with " chelation " drugs that mop up heavy metals and

are then

> excreted. It is not yet known whether the children's symptoms have

eased, but

> Lathe cites anecdotal reports suggesting the drugs might do some

good.

> From issue 2553 of New Scientist magazine, 27 May 2006, page 21

> _http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?

id=mg19025535.400 & feedId=health_rss20_

>

> (http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?

id=mg19025535.400 & feedId=health_rss20)

>

May 25, 2006

Hi a friend of mine told our pead about biomedical stuff and she put

the social services onto her implying that she could be harming her

child so I lied and said we weren't doing it any more. I asked my dr

and he said don't say anything to anyone - it's like living in a

police state!

Peta-

-- In Autism Treatment , CarolineTraa@...

wrote:

>

> In a message dated 25/05/2006 11:03:37 GMT Standard Time,

> sharon_asd_uk@... writes:

>

> Now THIS is INTERESTING

>

> Sure is have already forwarded it to my paediatrician, telling her

we have

> began using EDTA for s high lead levels and have offered to

give her and

> any other staff interested a presentation on biomed when I come

to discuss

> s test results at the end of June (gulp) better start

swotting!!

> Keep ya posted.

> Luv Caroline

> xxx

>

May 25, 2006

This is really tricky surely social services can't take your child

away for giving them supplements and chelation. This is the second

instance I've heard of. I think it's important that we tell our

paediatricians what we're doing and more importantly why. If there's

no evidence of heavy metals then no, we shouldn't be chelating

surely. If there is then evidence is evidence whether or not they

are willing to swot up on it. Our paed is not happy with the amount

of supplements Tom is taking. I can see her point - he's on about

32 doses a day added together! But she has referred him to Simon

Murch. If we don't keep them involved there'll never be sufficient

body of evidence of what works. And if they don't have ownership of

what works then it'll never be absorbed into main stream.

> >

> > In a message dated 25/05/2006 11:03:37 GMT Standard Time,

> > sharon_asd_uk@ writes:

> >

> > Now THIS is INTERESTING

> >

> > Sure is have already forwarded it to my paediatrician, telling

her

> we have

> > began using EDTA for s high lead levels and have offered

to

> give her and

> > any other staff interested a presentation on biomed when I come

> to discuss

> > s test results at the end of June (gulp) better start

> swotting!!

> > Keep ya posted.

> > Luv Caroline

> > xxx

> >

>

May 25, 2006

I definitely think your GP should be informed and kept up to date. I have supplied all test results and info on exactly which treatments we are using. I know Dr Heard has also written to my son't GP with full details of his current and future treatment.

Social Services are extremely overstretched - or so they lead us to belief (apologies if anyone works for them). So I would be amazed if they were to get involved in any child protection issues relating to biomedical treatments of autism. I know of a recent case were the child with learning difficulties was so out of control and violent he had caused his mother serious injuries on four seperate occasions. They still refused to get involved and help. Out of complete desperation the mum had to make a formal complaint, have her son arrested, and say that she would not have him back in her home in order to get help. A child really has to be at risk of significant harm for them to become involved. Surely, leaving the child untreated should give more cause for concern.

Re: Heavy metals may be implicated in autism

This is really tricky surely social services can't take your child away for giving them supplements and chelation. This is the second instance I've heard of. I think it's important that we tell our paediatricians what we're doing and more importantly why. If there's no evidence of heavy metals then no, we shouldn't be chelating surely. If there is then evidence is evidence whether or not they are willing to swot up on it. Our paed is not happy with the amount of supplements Tom is taking. I can see her point - he's on about 32 doses a day added together! But she has referred him to Simon Murch. If we don't keep them involved there'll never be sufficient body of evidence of what works. And if they don't have ownership of what works then it'll never be absorbed into main stream. > >> > > > In a message dated 25/05/2006 11:03:37 GMT Standard Time, > > sharon_asd_uk@ writes:> > > > Now THIS is INTERESTING> > > > > > Sure is have already forwarded it to my paediatrician, telling her > we have > > began using EDTA for s high lead levels and have offered to > give her and > > any other staff interested a presentation on biomed when I come > to discuss > > s test results at the end of June (gulp) better start > swotting!!> > Keep ya posted.> > Luv Caroline> > xxx> >>

May 25, 2006

I definitely think your GP should be informed and kept up to date. I have supplied all test results and info on exactly which treatments we are using. I know Dr Heard has also written to my son't GP with full details of his current and future treatment.

Social Services are extremely overstretched - or so they lead us to belief (apologies if anyone works for them). So I would be amazed if they were to get involved in any child protection issues relating to biomedical treatments of autism. I know of a recent case were the child with learning difficulties was so out of control and violent he had caused his mother serious injuries on four seperate occasions. They still refused to get involved and help. Out of complete desperation the mum had to make a formal complaint, have her son arrested, and say that she would not have him back in her home in order to get help. A child really has to be at risk of significant harm for them to become involved. Surely, leaving the child untreated should give more cause for concern.

Re: Heavy metals may be implicated in autism

This is really tricky surely social services can't take your child away for giving them supplements and chelation. This is the second instance I've heard of. I think it's important that we tell our paediatricians what we're doing and more importantly why. If there's no evidence of heavy metals then no, we shouldn't be chelating surely. If there is then evidence is evidence whether or not they are willing to swot up on it. Our paed is not happy with the amount of supplements Tom is taking. I can see her point - he's on about 32 doses a day added together! But she has referred him to Simon Murch. If we don't keep them involved there'll never be sufficient body of evidence of what works. And if they don't have ownership of what works then it'll never be absorbed into main stream. > >> > > > In a message dated 25/05/2006 11:03:37 GMT Standard Time, > > sharon_asd_uk@ writes:> > > > Now THIS is INTERESTING> > > > > > Sure is have already forwarded it to my paediatrician, telling her > we have > > began using EDTA for s high lead levels and have offered to > give her and > > any other staff interested a presentation on biomed when I come > to discuss > > s test results at the end of June (gulp) better start > swotting!!> > Keep ya posted.> > Luv Caroline> > xxx> >>

May 25, 2006

I do agree but some pead's have such closed minds that I don't think

any amount of evidence would persuade them. Our's is also in charge

of child protection and she is dangerous. I spent my whole app

talking about mercury poisoning and she didn't even know about

chelation. I want to get referred to someone else but so far she has

refused. It's tricky 'cos once social services get involved they

waste loads of time and emotional energy.

Peta -

-- In Autism Treatment , " Sirr "

<mark.grabiec@...> wrote:

>

> This is really tricky surely social services can't take your child

> away for giving them supplements and chelation. This is the

second

> instance I've heard of. I think it's important that we tell our

> paediatricians what we're doing and more importantly why. If

there's

> no evidence of heavy metals then no, we shouldn't be chelating

> surely. If there is then evidence is evidence whether or not they

> are willing to swot up on it. Our paed is not happy with the

amount

> of supplements Tom is taking. I can see her point - he's on about

> 32 doses a day added together! But she has referred him to Simon

> Murch. If we don't keep them involved there'll never be

sufficient

> body of evidence of what works. And if they don't have ownership

of

> what works then it'll never be absorbed into main stream.

>

> > >

> > > In a message dated 25/05/2006 11:03:37 GMT Standard Time,

> > > sharon_asd_uk@ writes:

> > >

> > > Now THIS is INTERESTING

> > >

> > > Sure is have already forwarded it to my paediatrician, telling

> her

> > we have

> > > began using EDTA for s high lead levels and have

offered

> to

> > give her and

> > > any other staff interested a presentation on biomed when I

come

> > to discuss

> > > s test results at the end of June (gulp) better start

> > swotting!!

> > > Keep ya posted.

> > > Luv Caroline

> > > xxx

> > >

> >

>

May 25, 2006

I do agree but some pead's have such closed minds that I don't think

any amount of evidence would persuade them. Our's is also in charge

of child protection and she is dangerous. I spent my whole app

talking about mercury poisoning and she didn't even know about

chelation. I want to get referred to someone else but so far she has

refused. It's tricky 'cos once social services get involved they

waste loads of time and emotional energy.

Peta -

-- In Autism Treatment , " Sirr "

<mark.grabiec@...> wrote:

>

> This is really tricky surely social services can't take your child

> away for giving them supplements and chelation. This is the

second

> instance I've heard of. I think it's important that we tell our

> paediatricians what we're doing and more importantly why. If

there's

> no evidence of heavy metals then no, we shouldn't be chelating

> surely. If there is then evidence is evidence whether or not they

> are willing to swot up on it. Our paed is not happy with the

amount

> of supplements Tom is taking. I can see her point - he's on about

> 32 doses a day added together! But she has referred him to Simon

> Murch. If we don't keep them involved there'll never be

sufficient

> body of evidence of what works. And if they don't have ownership

of

> what works then it'll never be absorbed into main stream.

>

> > >

> > > In a message dated 25/05/2006 11:03:37 GMT Standard Time,

> > > sharon_asd_uk@ writes:

> > >

> > > Now THIS is INTERESTING

> > >

> > > Sure is have already forwarded it to my paediatrician, telling

> her

> > we have

> > > began using EDTA for s high lead levels and have

offered

> to

> > give her and

> > > any other staff interested a presentation on biomed when I

come

> > to discuss

> > > s test results at the end of June (gulp) better start

> > swotting!!

> > > Keep ya posted.

> > > Luv Caroline

> > > xxx

> > >

> >

>

May 25, 2006

My Gp said that if treatments aren't licensed for autism over here

ie B12 then if he was involved( he gives us emla cream at the

moment) and something went wrong then he could be liable. He said he

is very sympathetic but he has to think of his job and his pension.

He said it would be best if I didn't tell anyone about Charlie's

treatments because of our pead - I have told him what a dreadful

woman she is. When I told him about my friend being referred to

social services and did he think I would be he didn't say no of

course not but that it could happen. He said if he knew I was giving

something to Charlie which could be dangerous then he would have to

tell someone - his example was injecting him with arsenic and I said

what like injecting him with mercury! So even though I have told him

alot about the treatments and been honest he is now warning me not

to. And he isn't a bad GP.I don't want to be stopped from chelating.

Peta

> > >

> > > In a message dated 25/05/2006 11:03:37 GMT Standard Time,

> > > sharon_asd_uk@ writes:

> > >

> > > Now THIS is INTERESTING

> > >

> > > Sure is have already forwarded it to my paediatrician,

telling

> her

> > we have

> > > began using EDTA for s high lead levels and have

offered

> to

> > give her and

> > > any other staff interested a presentation on biomed when I

come

> > to discuss

> > > s test results at the end of June (gulp) better start

> > swotting!!

> > > Keep ya posted.

> > > Luv Caroline

> > > xxx

> > >

> >

>

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May 25, 2006