Re: URGENT! discontinuing our 2nd round of DMSA?

[Guest guest]

If it was me, I would stop the round. Give plenty of fluids, some

electrolyte drinks.

J

>

> Hi folks,

> can anyone give me a quick response to this one? I started round

#2 on DMSA (TD) for my 4 yo yesterday afternoon. He was kind of

upset/crying a lot/and acting more " autistic " already prior to the

first dose, after school, but I did not think of much since this

happens a lot. Anyhow, I started round 2 at 3 pm, and dosed it every

3-4 hours since then, 0.2 ml each time which equals about 46 mgs per

dose, as prescribed. He did not have a problem with this dosage last

time, other than some yeast flare up.

>

> Anyhow, last night (after 4 dosed of DMSA) he started vomitting.

He vomitted about 3 times, and took in nothing other than some water.

We are going slow on water cause he seems to throw up anything that

goes down. I tried giving him probiotics (was that a good idea?) and

it stayed down. Later, I added 2 virastop enzymes as I thinnk his

vomting is viral, maybe he got it from school, and it just seems to

coincide with the DMSA round? What do you think?

>

> He is sleeping right now, looks pale but has not vomited since the

morning. He looks tired, not sure if lethargic, just looking sick.

Does not have a fever (yet).

>

> My next dose of DMSA id due now in 30 minutes and I don't know if

I should be giving it to him or not. Please advise as soon as you are

able to. If I don't hear from anyone, I think I will stop the round.

Please let me know what would be the wisest thing to do, and perhaps

post some guidelins for the future.

>

> I appreciate it so much! Hope to hear back from someone soon.

> Yours,

>

[Guest guest]

,

I would stop the round. Already he has missed doses from vomiting

them up.

My son vomited during chelation while I was using VS and other

antivirals. The round was at a very low dose that he had tolerated

previously. There may be some sort of connection, as you suspect,

between the viruses (whether long-term or something he picked up

from school) and chelation that makes everything worse.

I would also consider going even lower the next round, just to be on

the safe side.

I hope he's feeling better soon. You too: I know how worrying it

is.

Anita

>

> Hi folks,

> can anyone give me a quick response to this one? I started round

#2 on DMSA (TD) for my 4 yo yesterday afternoon. He was kind of

upset/crying a lot/and acting more " autistic " already prior to the

first dose, after school, but I did not think of much since this

happens a lot. Anyhow, I started round 2 at 3 pm, and dosed it

every 3-4 hours since then, 0.2 ml each time which equals about 46

mgs per dose, as prescribed. He did not have a problem with this

dosage last time, other than some yeast flare up.

>

> Anyhow, last night (after 4 dosed of DMSA) he started vomitting.

He vomitted about 3 times, and took in nothing other than some

water. We are going slow on water cause he seems to throw up

anything that goes down. I tried giving him probiotics (was that a

good idea?) and it stayed down. Later, I added 2 virastop enzymes

as I thinnk his vomting is viral, maybe he got it from school, and

it just seems to coincide with the DMSA round? What do you think?

>

> He is sleeping right now, looks pale but has not vomited since

the morning. He looks tired, not sure if lethargic, just looking

sick. Does not have a fever (yet).

>

> My next dose of DMSA id due now in 30 minutes and I don't know

if I should be giving it to him or not. Please advise as soon as you

are able to. If I don't hear from anyone, I think I will stop the

round. Please let me know what would be the wisest thing to do, and

perhaps post some guidelins for the future.

>

> I appreciate it so much! Hope to hear back from someone soon.

> Yours,

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Ring'em or ping'em. Make PC-to-phone calls as low as 1¢/min with

Messenger with Voice.

>

>

[Guest guest]

No he hasn't missed doses from vomiting them up (I overlooked the TD

part). Sorry. But still stop the round. It's not a good idea to

push things, particularly in a situation where he may be deyhydrated.

Anita

> >

> > Hi folks,

> > can anyone give me a quick response to this one? I started

round

> #2 on DMSA (TD) for my 4 yo yesterday afternoon. He was kind of

> upset/crying a lot/and acting more " autistic " already prior to the

> first dose, after school, but I did not think of much since this

> happens a lot. Anyhow, I started round 2 at 3 pm, and dosed it

> every 3-4 hours since then, 0.2 ml each time which equals about 46

> mgs per dose, as prescribed. He did not have a problem with this

> dosage last time, other than some yeast flare up.

> >

> > Anyhow, last night (after 4 dosed of DMSA) he started

vomitting.

> He vomitted about 3 times, and took in nothing other than some

> water. We are going slow on water cause he seems to throw up

> anything that goes down. I tried giving him probiotics (was that a

> good idea?) and it stayed down. Later, I added 2 virastop enzymes

> as I thinnk his vomting is viral, maybe he got it from school, and

> it just seems to coincide with the DMSA round? What do you think?

> >

> > He is sleeping right now, looks pale but has not vomited since

> the morning. He looks tired, not sure if lethargic, just looking

> sick. Does not have a fever (yet).

> >

> > My next dose of DMSA id due now in 30 minutes and I don't know

> if I should be giving it to him or not. Please advise as soon as

you

> are able to. If I don't hear from anyone, I think I will stop the

> round. Please let me know what would be the wisest thing to do,

and

> perhaps post some guidelins for the future.

> >

> > I appreciate it so much! Hope to hear back from someone soon.

> > Yours,

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Ring'em or ping'em. Make PC-to-phone calls as low as 1¢/min

with

> Messenger with Voice.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

This does not sound to be chelation related to me. Stopping the round makes

sense. Try not to over-treat the stomach issue. Lots of stuff seems to make

sense, but when you see them fly passed your ear or pool on the floor obviously

they didn't help.:'^o

I think you should check for fever associated with the vomiting. You do want to

keep fluids going as best as possible without causing more up-chucking. Maybe a

few sips of Seven-Up or Sprite on ice through a straw can help curb the stomach

upset. Keep an eye on monitoring the potty part of things.

[ ] Re: URGENT! discontinuing our 2nd round of DMSA?

No he hasn't missed doses from vomiting them up (I overlooked the TD

part). Sorry. But still stop the round. It's not a good idea to

push things, particularly in a situation where he may be deyhydrated.

Anita

> >

> > Hi folks,

> > can anyone give me a quick response to this one? I started

round

> #2 on DMSA (TD) for my 4 yo yesterday afternoon. He was kind of

> upset/crying a lot/and acting more " autistic " already prior to the

> first dose, after school, but I did not think of much since this

> happens a lot. Anyhow, I started round 2 at 3 pm, and dosed it

> every 3-4 hours since then, 0.2 ml each time which equals about 46

> mgs per dose, as prescribed. He did not have a problem with this

> dosage last time, other than some yeast flare up.

> >

> > Anyhow, last night (after 4 dosed of DMSA) he started

vomitting.

> He vomitted about 3 times, and took in nothing other than some

> water. We are going slow on water cause he seems to throw up

> anything that goes down. I tried giving him probiotics (was that a

> good idea?) and it stayed down. Later, I added 2 virastop enzymes

> as I thinnk his vomting is viral, maybe he got it from school, and

> it just seems to coincide with the DMSA round? What do you think?

> >

> > He is sleeping right now, looks pale but has not vomited since

> the morning. He looks tired, not sure if lethargic, just looking

> sick. Does not have a fever (yet).

> >

> > My next dose of DMSA id due now in 30 minutes and I don't know

> if I should be giving it to him or not. Please advise as soon as

you

> are able to. If I don't hear from anyone, I think I will stop the

> round. Please let me know what would be the wisest thing to do,

and

> perhaps post some guidelins for the future.

> >

> > I appreciate it so much! Hope to hear back from someone soon.

> > Yours,

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Ring'em or ping'em. Make PC-to-phone calls as low as 1¢/min

with

> Messenger with Voice.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I know this may be misconstrued as medical advice but as a grandparent, I

wouldn't give

the dose. He may be having one of the stomach viruses that are going around and

you

don't need to have him coping with both those things at once.

Peace,

Kathy E.

>

> Hi folks,

> can anyone give me a quick response to this one? I started round #2 on DMSA

(TD) for

my 4 yo yesterday afternoon. He was kind of upset/crying a lot/and acting more

" autistic "

already prior to the first dose, after school, but I did not think of much since

this happens

a lot. Anyhow, I started round 2 at 3 pm, and dosed it every 3-4 hours since

then, 0.2 ml

each time which equals about 46 mgs per dose, as prescribed. He did not have a

problem

with this dosage last time, other than some yeast flare up.

>

> Anyhow, last night (after 4 dosed of DMSA) he started vomitting. He vomitted

about 3

times, and took in nothing other than some water. We are going slow on water

cause he

seems to throw up anything that goes down. I tried giving him probiotics (was

that a good

idea?) and it stayed down. Later, I added 2 virastop enzymes as I thinnk his

vomting is

viral, maybe he got it from school, and it just seems to coincide with the DMSA

round?

What do you think?

>

> He is sleeping right now, looks pale but has not vomited since the morning.

He looks

tired, not sure if lethargic, just looking sick. Does not have a fever (yet).

>

> My next dose of DMSA id due now in 30 minutes and I don't know if I should

be giving

it to him or not. Please advise as soon as you are able to. If I don't hear from

anyone, I

think I will stop the round. Please let me know what would be the wisest thing

to do, and

perhaps post some guidelins for the future.

>

> I appreciate it so much! Hope to hear back from someone soon.

> Yours,

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Ring'em or ping'em. Make PC-to-phone calls as low as 1¢/min with

Messenger

with Voice.

>

>

[Guest guest]

It sounds like perhaps he was coming down with something prior to

the round, although DMSA - if you're opening the capsule and mixing

it - would be pretty awful tasting on top of anything viral. My son

is always more " autistic " when he is getting a virus, and it used to

last up to 10 days before the virus hit (now I use antivirals at the

first sign of it, and he hasn't actually gotten sick all year.)

My son also was on DMSA/aLA chelation at that age, and he was sick

(viral) literally every other weekend from having such a bad immune

system, and picking up things at school. Usually when he was

visibly sick, I'd skip the round. Chelation depresses the immune

system further and I was already nervous that he was sick so often.

However at that time I didn't know about antivirals and immune

system boosters, so maybe you can help his immune system withstand

the preschool years by using those during the week, and not miss as

many rounds.

Amy

>

> Hi folks,

> can anyone give me a quick response to this one? I started round

#2 on DMSA (TD) for my 4 yo yesterday afternoon. He was kind of

upset/crying a lot/and acting more " autistic " already prior to the

first dose, after school, but I did not think of much since this

happens a lot. Anyhow, I started round 2 at 3 pm, and dosed it

every 3-4 hours since then, 0.2 ml each time which equals about 46

mgs per dose, as prescribed. He did not have a problem with this

dosage last time, other than some yeast flare up.

>

> Anyhow, last night (after 4 dosed of DMSA) he started vomitting.

He vomitted about 3 times, and took in nothing other than some

water. We are going slow on water cause he seems to throw up

anything that goes down. I tried giving him probiotics (was that a

good idea?) and it stayed down. Later, I added 2 virastop enzymes

as I thinnk his vomting is viral, maybe he got it from school, and

it just seems to coincide with the DMSA round? What do you think?

>

> He is sleeping right now, looks pale but has not vomited since

the morning. He looks tired, not sure if lethargic, just looking

sick. Does not have a fever (yet).

>

> My next dose of DMSA id due now in 30 minutes and I don't know

if I should be giving it to him or not. Please advise as soon as you

are able to. If I don't hear from anyone, I think I will stop the

round. Please let me know what would be the wisest thing to do, and

perhaps post some guidelins for the future.

>

> I appreciate it so much! Hope to hear back from someone soon.

> Yours,

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Ring'em or ping'em. Make PC-to-phone calls as low as 1¢/min with

Messenger with Voice.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Amy,

thanks so much for responding. And thanks for addressing my overall concern as

well, which seems to be a strong body and immune system that could stand the

stress of chelation.

I think I am going to order an immune system booster.... I have heard of

Transfer Factor, LDN (?), anything else that you or anyone else can recommend

for my 4 year old who I am trying to rid off metals?

Vitamin C is out of the game for now as he is not tolerating it (will be

treated with NAET this week).

I have used OLE, which was GREAT (did some wonderful things to him), however,

I am not ready to fully go after the viruses....maybe at a low dose that could

be helpful for his immune system also... All I am trying to do right now is have

a nice balanced system that could take the chelation rounds well.

I have a good yeast protocol, I am assured, because Evan did not have any

outstanding issues this round with yeast (no diaper rash, nor thrush, just some

minimal spitting and yes, stimming, but that was not very unusual for him).

The Virastop at 4-6 per day seemed to help him along with Candidase this

weekend with that viral thing btw...

Any thoughts, anyone?

Thanks so much.

Amy <noahsmom7898@...> wrote:

It sounds like perhaps he was coming down with something prior to

the round, although DMSA - if you're opening the capsule and mixing

it - would be pretty awful tasting on top of anything viral. My son

is always more " autistic " when he is getting a virus, and it used to

last up to 10 days before the virus hit (now I use antivirals at the

first sign of it, and he hasn't actually gotten sick all year.)

My son also was on DMSA/aLA chelation at that age, and he was sick

(viral) literally every other weekend from having such a bad immune

system, and picking up things at school. Usually when he was

visibly sick, I'd skip the round. Chelation depresses the immune

system further and I was already nervous that he was sick so often.

However at that time I didn't know about antivirals and immune

system boosters, so maybe you can help his immune system withstand

the preschool years by using those during the week, and not miss as

many rounds.

Amy

>

> Hi folks,

> can anyone give me a quick response to this one? I started round

#2 on DMSA (TD) for my 4 yo yesterday afternoon. He was kind of

upset/crying a lot/and acting more " autistic " already prior to the

first dose, after school, but I did not think of much since this

happens a lot. Anyhow, I started round 2 at 3 pm, and dosed it

every 3-4 hours since then, 0.2 ml each time which equals about 46

mgs per dose, as prescribed. He did not have a problem with this

dosage last time, other than some yeast flare up.

>

> Anyhow, last night (after 4 dosed of DMSA) he started vomitting.

He vomitted about 3 times, and took in nothing other than some

water. We are going slow on water cause he seems to throw up

anything that goes down. I tried giving him probiotics (was that a

good idea?) and it stayed down. Later, I added 2 virastop enzymes

as I thinnk his vomting is viral, maybe he got it from school, and

it just seems to coincide with the DMSA round? What do you think?

>

> He is sleeping right now, looks pale but has not vomited since

the morning. He looks tired, not sure if lethargic, just looking

sick. Does not have a fever (yet).

>

> My next dose of DMSA id due now in 30 minutes and I don't know

if I should be giving it to him or not. Please advise as soon as you

are able to. If I don't hear from anyone, I think I will stop the

round. Please let me know what would be the wisest thing to do, and

perhaps post some guidelins for the future.

>

> I appreciate it so much! Hope to hear back from someone soon.

> Yours,

>

>

---------------------------------

How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates.

[Guest guest]

My son does well on Virastop (although the calcium is too much for

him so he takes low, infrequent doses) and occasional OLE. He is so

sensitive that he can't handle most supps in high doses or even

every day without a break.

He took high doses of beta-carotene with zinc, following

approximately Dr. Megson's high-dose vitamin A protocol, 2 years

ago. This made a huge difference - after that he'd still get sick,

but not every 2 weeks like clockwork. Then this year - on OLE and

Virastop - he hasn't missed a single day of school.

Some things that he couldn't tolerate during chelation, he can

handle now. Vitamin C was one of those things - he didn't tolerate

any B's, then, either. Of the many supps recommended to support him

during chelation and he could tolerate almost none of them. I did

give him one drop of GSE with each round, for yeast.

For my kids, Virastop tends to bring on yeast, as it addresses

viruses.

Amy

>

> Hi Amy,

>

> thanks so much for responding. And thanks for addressing my

overall concern as well, which seems to be a strong body and immune

system that could stand the stress of chelation.

>

> I think I am going to order an immune system booster.... I have

heard of Transfer Factor, LDN (?), anything else that you or anyone

else can recommend for my 4 year old who I am trying to rid off

metals?

>

> Vitamin C is out of the game for now as he is not tolerating it

(will be treated with NAET this week).

>

> I have used OLE, which was GREAT (did some wonderful things to

him), however, I am not ready to fully go after the viruses....maybe

at a low dose that could be helpful for his immune system also...

All I am trying to do right now is have a nice balanced system that

could take the chelation rounds well.

>

> I have a good yeast protocol, I am assured, because Evan did not

have any outstanding issues this round with yeast (no diaper rash,

nor thrush, just some minimal spitting and yes, stimming, but that

was not very unusual for him).

>

> The Virastop at 4-6 per day seemed to help him along with

Candidase this weekend with that viral thing btw...

>

> Any thoughts, anyone?

> Thanks so much.

>

>