Guest guest Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 Which communities? S S <p>DH just told me abut this, and I thought I'd post in case anyone lives<br> in these communities and doesn't know about it. Apparently pharma is<br> testing a blood substitute on any trauma victim who isn't wearing a<br> special bracelet opting out of the study. Fake blood. Uh-huh. The<br> usual backstory about heart attacks during clinical trials that didn't<br> occur in the patients using real blood.<br> <br> Thinking about emigrating again,<br> <br> Nell<br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 > > > > Which communities? I didn't see a link in the original posting so did some googling and found this article on Wired.com: http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,62955,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_2 By Randy Dotinga| Also by this reporter 02:00 AM Apr, 06, 2004 Thanks to an unusual loophole in the strict rules of medical ethics, hundreds of trauma patients in California, Texas and a few other states will be taking a gamble when ambulances come to scoop them up after accidents or acts of violence. Without waiting to get consent, paramedics will inject a fake blood product into half of the eligible patients chosen to take part in a new study. The other half will get a routine treatment of transfusion with saline solution until they reach the hospital. For now, the artificial blood, known as PolyHeme, isn't approved for general use. But it will still slip into the veins and arteries of unconscious patients who won't be able to say no. " Emergency research in general creates a special set of circumstances, " said Fryer-, a University of Washington medical ethicist whose colleagues across the country are divided over the wisdom of the blood study. " In a way, all of our usual approaches to research ethics -- to protecting human subjects, to trying to get informed consent -- just go out the window. " [continued] Marty -- Asperger's/High Functioning Autism Homeschooler's discussion list as-hfa-homeschool/ Mainstreaming Experiences & Strategies MainstreamingDisabledKids/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 > > > > Which communities? > S S Durham, NC; several counties in Kansas and Kentucky, more...I couldn;t find a list but you can find more by googling. Sorry to make work. Nell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 A few thoughts why. Liability claims against the blood marketplace are driving all the good blood clinics out of business. (a joke) Blood donations are down because a lot of people sense the blood they DONATE is then SOLD by dubiously lying finks that destroy the concept of being a good neighbor by operating for-profit blood clinics. People are afraid to donate blood because of needles and a lack of trust in the people operating. There are often media reports about poor testing resulting in contaminated blood causing problems. The dubious lying finks selling DONATED blood are cut-throat people pricing themselves out of the market for fresh blood causing medical businesses to look for alternative resources. They watched the movie Predator and concluded that if Hollywood ETs in the future can have neon blood oozing from their bodies they might be able to trick people into thinking the fake blood will be OK. [ ] Re: Another pharma horror > > > > Which communities? I didn't see a link in the original posting so did some googling and found this article on Wired.com: http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,62955,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_2 By Randy Dotinga| Also by this reporter 02:00 AM Apr, 06, 2004 Thanks to an unusual loophole in the strict rules of medical ethics, hundreds of trauma patients in California, Texas and a few other states will be taking a gamble when ambulances come to scoop them up after accidents or acts of violence. Without waiting to get consent, paramedics will inject a fake blood product into half of the eligible patients chosen to take part in a new study. The other half will get a routine treatment of transfusion with saline solution until they reach the hospital. For now, the artificial blood, known as PolyHeme, isn't approved for general use. But it will still slip into the veins and arteries of unconscious patients who won't be able to say no. " Emergency research in general creates a special set of circumstances, " said Fryer-, a University of Washington medical ethicist whose colleagues across the country are divided over the wisdom of the blood study. " In a way, all of our usual approaches to research ethics -- to protecting human subjects, to trying to get informed consent -- just go out the window. " [continued] Marty -- Asperger's/High Functioning Autism Homeschooler's discussion list as-hfa-homeschool/ Mainstreaming Experiences & Strategies MainstreamingDisabledKids/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 > > There are often media reports about poor testing resulting in contaminated blood causing problems. And even worse. Someone recently posted the story of HIV-contaminated blood products knowingly being sold. My BIL's brother was a hemophiliac and died of AIDS thanks to that bit of pharma lying. The vax situation is the same thing all over again. Nell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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