Guest guest Posted October 14, 2006 Report Share Posted October 14, 2006 Hmmm, No yeast? At all? Sounds weird, maybe ask for a copy of the test results. Perhaps the ranges were " normal " looking to the doc. If his stools are normal now with all that you have done, that would suggest that yeast was indeed an issue. > > We did a stool test for yeast and fungus through quest diagnostics > about one month ago and my DAN! said everything came back fine but that > was when he was at his worst as far as BM's are concerened. Should I > get another stool culture, or just accept that his problem isn't yeast? > His stools are now much better after diet, probiotics, and GSE but I am > still puzzled as to what this negative stool culture means??? > sarah > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 > We did a stool test for yeast and fungus through quest diagnostics > about one month ago and my DAN! said everything came back fine but that > was when he was at his worst as far as BM's are concerened. Should I > get another stool culture, or just accept that his problem isn't yeast? The test indicates he has no yeast in his gut. It does not indicate whether he has yeast in his ears, brain, or other areas. And if his bad bms were not related to yeast, then a yeast test would not tell you the reason for the bad bms. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Stool tests for yeast are notoriously unreliable. I have a rampant yeast infection which didn't show up on stools test (great smokies). However the test did pick up dysbiotic bacteria (which are indicative of an underlying yeast infection). There are many reliable ways to test for yeast - e.g. by looking at metabolites. . > > We did a stool test for yeast and fungus through quest diagnostics > > about one month ago and my DAN! said everything came back fine but that > > was when he was at his worst as far as BM's are concerened. Should I > > get another stool culture, or just accept that his problem isn't yeast? > > > The test indicates he has no yeast in his gut. It does not indicate > whether he has yeast in his ears, brain, or other areas. > > And if his bad bms were not related to yeast, then a yeast test would > not tell you the reason for the bad bms. > > Dana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 As posted, you can't necessarily depend on stool test yeast findings. Pangborn/Baker's biomed book goes on at length about this. None of our stool tests have ever found yeast, but we have been battling it very obviously for a while. Whenever we successfully hit it hard, the die-off is so obvious. But our DAN doc was still not convinced how bad my son's yeast was since it never showed up on tests. We were finally able to " prove " it by doing a microbial OAT test, which showed elevated Arabinose levels indicating yeast. Yeast actually never caused bad stools for us except when die-off occurred. Sometimes his stools are kinda " fluffy " looking because of yeast, but not loose. Loose stools for us are almost always bacterial, or occasionally diet issues. So perhaps your probiotics and diet change did the trick. We rely on behaviors and stims to indicate when my son's yeast is coming back. > > We did a stool test for yeast and fungus through quest diagnostics > about one month ago and my DAN! said everything came back fine but that > was when he was at his worst as far as BM's are concerened. Should I > get another stool culture, or just accept that his problem isn't yeast? > His stools are now much better after diet, probiotics, and GSE but I am > still puzzled as to what this negative stool culture means??? > sarah > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Any health practitioner who relies on stool tests to diagnose yeast is an idiot. And to think people pay big bucks for that kind of " expertise " . I agree with that loose stools are almost always bacterial (good or bad bacteria). Yeast tends to be constipating more than anything else. That doesn't mean if you don't have constipation you don't have yeast - just that that is the tendency. In terms of stools, the only noticable affect yeast has is it changes the color more towards reddish brown, where as in a healthy colon stools tend towards dark brown. People with yeast often have " bitsy " stools (rather than totally smooth), but this is more a cause rather than effect - a yeast infection requires maldigestion higher up to give a constant food supply. Thats how you get dysbiosis. So yeast doesn't cause bitsy stools, but the two often go together. . " " <pegapud@...> wrote: > As posted, you can't necessarily depend on stool test yeast > findings. Pangborn/Baker's biomed book goes on at length about this. > None of our stool tests have ever found yeast, but we have been > battling it very obviously for a while. Whenever we successfully hit > it hard, the die-off is so obvious. But our DAN doc was still not > convinced how bad my son's yeast was since it never showed up on > tests. We were finally able to " prove " it by doing a microbial OAT > test, which showed elevated Arabinose levels indicating yeast. > > Yeast actually never caused bad stools for us except when die-off > occurred. Sometimes his stools are kinda " fluffy " looking because of > yeast, but not loose. Loose stools for us are almost always > bacterial, or occasionally diet issues. So perhaps your probiotics > and diet change did the trick. We rely on behaviors and stims to > indicate when my son's yeast is coming back. > > > > > > > > We did a stool test for yeast and fungus through quest diagnostics > > about one month ago and my DAN! said everything came back fine but that > > was when he was at his worst as far as BM's are concerened. Should I > > get another stool culture, or just accept that his problem isn't yeast? > > His stools are now much better after diet, probiotics, and GSE but I am > > still puzzled as to what this negative stool culture means??? > > sarah > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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