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Is Maitake D Fraction a good source of the beta glucan?

>From: "Cliff Beckwith"

>Reply-cures for canceregroups >

>Subject: Recovery? >Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 20:19:31 -0500 > >Hi, > >For several days I have intended to write something like this and have not >gotten the time. > >One man with whom I have been corresponding for probably at least 18 months >has always been quite pessimistic concerning the value of Flaxseed Oil. One >of the examples he has mentioned from time to time is his friend, Elsie, who >began to use Flaxseed oil and Cottage Cheese faithfully till the day she >died. > >Finally, I asked him if she was doing anything else at all. Yes, she was >doing her regular chemo, Taxotere, and some other things which I have >forgotten, along with radiation. Just the standard stuff. > >Those things are destructive to our bodies. I read of one report that is in >my computer of a study at a major cancer institution that concluded that >half of those who die of cancer die of chemo and the other half die of >cancer. > >He told me he really hadn't thought about that. This man has been through >the mill with all kinds of chemos and trials and has now exhausted all >possibilities and is not improving. The doctor tells him that if the >disease progresses normally he will not be here next year. He is now back >on the Flax and is already feeling better with less pain. He does not want >the Beta Glucan yet. He wants to see what happens with this first. He is >already more optomistic. > >Flaxseed oil builds our bodies, or helps build them, but cannot overcome >that destructcion. > >Another man I know was in bad shape, but used the flax oil correctly and >began to improve. For some time the doctor could find no excuse for giving >chemo, and then this man quit using the cottage cheese. He really hated it >and could not see why it was important. Gradually the condition returned. >The doctor told him that the flax oil had done him no good and to get back >on the chemo. He is now doing it right again, along with other supplements >and immune system boosters, but the chemo continues and he is going down >hill. I talked to his sister last night and she is becoming discouraged. > >Another friend was doing very well on Flax Oil for colon cancer but the >doctors were also using chemo. He improved a lot but did not want to tell >the doctors what he was doing because he was afraid they would get mad at >him. One day he told me that he had to tell them and get off the chemo. He >was losing weight and it was killing him. He did quit and for a few months >lost no more weight but he could not recover and died. > >When we measure what good it is doing there is sometimes no way to tell for >awhile. There are a number of factors involved. We have to look at each >situation and none are exactly the same. If doctors would objectively look >at this and learn what is happening and what questions to ask and what >conditions to look for we would get somewhere, but it would not make for the >big bucks and it will never happen. > >All I can say is that we need to do the very best we can to live as healthy >an existence as we can and stay with it. > >No one can guarantee a lot with this Animal. Yet Dr Budwig is having 98% >success with many of her patients terminal when she gets them. I have never >come close to the rigid dietary regimen on which she puts her patients. In >spite of that there has been much success. > >With what I am learning about Beta Glucan, I cannot help but believe that a >combination of Flaxseed oil and cottage cheese and a full use of enough Beta >Glucan and high vitamin C as an immune system booster would go a long way in >giving each of us a good chance at a normal life. > >There are other things as well that have an excellent track record. The way >to life is out there for the majority of us. With The Lord's direction we >will have the best shot possible. > >One person whom I regard as a friend has originated and is spending his life >and energies on Prostate Cancer and is primarily committed to standard >treatment. > >I asked him in a recent message if he knew of anyone who had been cured by >chemo. His answer was "no". Doctors know this and do not expect a cure. >They just feel they are doing their best ot add time to the lives of >patients. > >Dr. Budwig told my cousin in a phone conversation three years or so ago, "I >have the answer to cancer, but American doctors won't listen. They have >come and observed my work and been impressed, but then they want some kind >of deal so they can take this back to America and make a lot of money and I >won't do it, so I am blackballed". > >All I can say is, if it does not seem to be successful try to see if there >is some area that is not being handled as well as it should be and try to >meet the deficiency. > >I also think of this often. A hundred years or so from now all of this will >be forgotten. Where we are then will be all that matters. > >Years back when I was teaching Agriculture I went to a county meeting on new >haymaking equipment. A fellow teacher and farmer who was not known for his >religious bent was with me. On the way home, out of the clear blue sky, he >said, " You know, Beck, this is all well and good but I have been thinking. >Sooner or later we are all going to die, and I am wondering if there are not >a lot more important things to worry about than methods of making hay". > >Incidentally, none of this should in any way be construed as medical advice. >I am not qualified. We should do nothing except under the supervision of a >skilled professional. >Amen! Yes! > >Wth Deep Regards > >Cliff > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Is Maitake D Fraction a good source of the beta glucan?

Hi Angie,

I'm really not much of an expert. It could well be but I am not sure. Dr.

Borman on cures for cancer has a good source of Beta Glucan and there are probably

others, but I don't reall know about that which you mention.

Cliff

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  • 3 years later...

Debby,

Glad you got through your surgery and hope the recovery goes well. :)

As for having staples removed, mine were taken out on my 8th day.. I

had the longer incision. I didn't use any neosporin or anything else

on the incision, but this is something you should discuss with your

dr. They also allowed my family dr to remove the sutures so I didn't

have to travel 3 and 1/2 hours for that one.

Again.. clinics differ as to when one can shower, wash hair and the

like. I did wash my hair the 3rd day after surgery, but had my hubby

put a towel over the incision and wash the rest of my hair. I was

told not to get the incision site wet till after staples were out.

I wore a loose fitting shower cap till the staples came out and was

able to shower right away.. taking care not to get my head wet.

Take care and rest up.. is good that you are getting by with

Tylenol, but be sure to take the stronger pain meds if needed. I

think my older sister took one pain pill after she came home just so

she would be sure of getting a good nights rest the first night

home. After that, she took Tylenol. I however needed the pain meds

for about 4 days and was about a week or so till I felt more like my

old self.

Hope everything goes well for you and looking forward to hearing

about your progress.

Hugs,

Silly MI

In , " lesdeb18 " <debmitnick@a...> wrote:

>

> This is Debby I had surgery on Dec 12. Its hard to belive that i

did

> it. While in recovery room, I thought of all of you guys on the

forum

> and that gave me the strength. As I was leaving the hospital, the

> nurse told me to call the drs office to make an appt to have

staples

> removed. The dr went away on vacation and be back one week. Was

> wondering how many days did u have your staples removed?? whe did

u

> take your first shower? did u put anything like neoporin??? I

have

> been sleeping on the couch and only taking tylenol.

>

> i am thinking about u and your mother. I hope she is feeling

> better.

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Hi! Every body :

WE have been doing biomedical for almost a year[ MB12 and Dr. N. multivitamin/

mineral

powder] with very good results.

5-6 wks. ago my 4 yrs. old daughter decided that she does not want to take her

supplements. Therefore from last may be 2 months we are not giving her any

thing. No

Mb 12 and no multivitamins/minerals. I thought that she would regress but the

case

turned out to be the other way round. She is infact doing a lot better now.

Lot more

normal speech and conversation , No tantrums, very happy and co-operative

child.

I am really confused. Dr. Neubrander says that ultimately these kids regress

without MB

12 and other supplements where as my daughter is doing really good withpout

them.

She goes to an integrated pre-school program where she receives SP. and OT

twice a wk.

School seems to help her a lot. My question is ' Should I start every thing

again or I just

continue like this.

Your help and guidance is extrmely appriciated

Thanks

Manju

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Hi,

Same here. But after six months, my son started having absence

seizures. Not sure if it is a coincidence or not. He also developped

new food allergies.

I re-introduced the " basics " (enzymes, probiotics, vit C, vit E,

epsom salts...) but very slowly and one at a time. I had to stop some

supplements he used to take with no problems because he now reacts to

them. I know there are things he needs but cannot tolerate (or I

cannot tolerate the side effects). For instance, he gets mean and

defiant with CoQ10, vit E, lauricidin, fatty acids...

I would re-introduce the ones you think are important to your child

and see how she does.

Good luck!

>

> Hi! Every body :

> WE have been doing biomedical for almost a year[ MB12 and Dr. N.

multivitamin/ mineral

> powder] with very good results.

>

> 5-6 wks. ago my 4 yrs. old daughter decided that she does not want

to take her

> supplements. Therefore from last may be 2 months we are not giving

her any thing. No

> Mb 12 and no multivitamins/minerals. I thought that she would

regress but the case

> turned out to be the other way round. She is infact doing a lot

better now. Lot more

> normal speech and conversation , No tantrums, very happy and co-

operative child.

>

> I am really confused. Dr. Neubrander says that ultimately these

kids regress without MB

> 12 and other supplements where as my daughter is doing really good

withpout them.

> She goes to an integrated pre-school program where she receives SP.

and OT twice a wk.

>

> School seems to help her a lot. My question is ' Should I start

every thing again or I just

> continue like this.

>

> Your help and guidance is extrmely appriciated

>

> Thanks

> Manju

>

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> 5-6 wks. ago my 4 yrs. old daughter decided that she does not want

to take her

> supplements.

My #3 would refuse supplements when they caused him problems. And

when he no longer needed them, they caused problems.

>> Therefore from last may be 2 months we are not giving her any

thing. No

> Mb 12 and no multivitamins/minerals. I thought that she would

regress but the case

> turned out to be the other way round. She is infact doing a lot

better now. Lot more

> normal speech and conversation , No tantrums, very happy and

co-operative child.

Great! She can tell you when she needs something and when she doesn't.

> I am really confused. Dr. Neubrander says that ultimately these

kids regress without MB

> 12 and other supplements where as my daughter is doing really good

withpout them.

My son did well with mB12 until he no longer needed it, then it

started causing problems.

Apparently, you and I know more about our kids than Dr. N, which is

not surprising.

> School seems to help her a lot. My question is ' Should I start

every thing again or I just

> continue like this.

I would continue like this, if she does better this way.

Dana

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Dana,

Thanks a lot for replying. Your mail makes me feel better. I am not going to re

introduce

the supplements unless I see any regression.

Thanks again

Manju

>

> > 5-6 wks. ago my 4 yrs. old daughter decided that she does not want

> to take her

> > supplements.

>

>

> My #3 would refuse supplements when they caused him problems. And

> when he no longer needed them, they caused problems.

>

>

> >> Therefore from last may be 2 months we are not giving her any

> thing. No

> > Mb 12 and no multivitamins/minerals. I thought that she would

> regress but the case

> > turned out to be the other way round. She is infact doing a lot

> better now. Lot more

> > normal speech and conversation , No tantrums, very happy and

> co-operative child.

>

>

> Great! She can tell you when she needs something and when she doesn't.

>

>

> > I am really confused. Dr. Neubrander says that ultimately these

> kids regress without MB

> > 12 and other supplements where as my daughter is doing really good

> withpout them.

>

>

> My son did well with mB12 until he no longer needed it, then it

> started causing problems.

>

> Apparently, you and I know more about our kids than Dr. N, which is

> not surprising.

>

>

> > School seems to help her a lot. My question is ' Should I start

> every thing again or I just

> > continue like this.

>

>

> I would continue like this, if she does better this way.

>

> Dana

>

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