Re: Digest Number 4390

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Hi There!

I was reading your post and it sure sounded alot like my house...ugh it is

so awful when the guys are sick....they are worse than the kids!!! lol

My name is Ronni and hubby is Mike. There are a couple things that might

help... First off you have probably heard that most herbs and spices are high

phenol....and that CFS is an adult issue with phenols...I am not sure but

have heard that Pau D'arco is a tough one anyway and that it is high phenol.

So that could be one thing. Another is what kind of Houston is he taking.

Is he taking the one with bromelain and papain....if so that could be the

issue....sometimes allergies or intolerances take a bit to show up...at least

for

us that is true.....also how much is he taking....I had to drop Mike's way

way back....worse than the kids...like down to an 1/8 or 16th of a dose...I

use the powder...

My husband just is not doing well. I had him on Virastop, four

per day, since about Jan 25th. His chronic fatigue was improving.

I started HNI Zyme Prime and Peptizyde also about a week ago. He

got bad diharrea, but he was still ok. Then two days ago he just

had to have some chicken (Pilgrim's Pride). In the past when he's

eaten it it has always caused problems sooner or later--usually

vomiting. This time, he ate two pieces for lunch and then after

dinner I gave him his enzymes and also a Pau d' Arco with cloves

capsule (cloves are really high in phenols...and are not an easy spice to

digest..it is a favorite smell of mine...so I found out from experience..)that

I wanted him to try. Right after that he threw up, and he hasn't been

feeling well since. He's like he was a month ago

before I started treating him. He is tired, his stomach hurts, and

he has this shaky, pulsating feeling in his chest--the same feeling

that bothered him and kept him awake at night for months. When I

had started the Virastop, about one week into it, the shaky feeling

spread to his shoulder, and he also had eyeball twitches. A few

days after that, all the twitching and " chest shaking " stopped and

didn't come back again until he threw up two days ago. When he threw

up two days ago, I took him off of everything. Then today at lunch,

I tried giving him a very undersized dose of Zyme Prime. A few

minutes later he said it was making his stomach hurt.Could he also be having

a yeast issue??? I am not sure but I think I might be tempted to go with

the no-fenol instead of the zyme...what kind of allergy problems is he

having?? I think I try to talk him...I said try....lol....not into eating any

allergy foods for some time...maybe 6 months....and try getting the no fenol in

him in small doses...that will help with the CFS issues..and then when you get

him worked up...start adding the others little bits at a time...like 1/8 or

so per dose once a day at first..then twice then with all meals and

snacks....and after you get some of them on start on a yeast program.

We have had a lot of the same issues and we are working on them little by

little....hubby is getting the last of his amalgams removed and replaced

tomorrow...so that is a good thing...can start to work on the metals...have you

had

his hair tested? Mike is just full of metals...so we are working on getting

him ready for chelation... What other supps are you giving him? Could he

be also intolerant to some? We had to adjust Mikes a couple times to get them

where he wasn't sick all the time...

Just things I know from my hubby....If I can help or you want to visit feel

free to email...I sure understand what you are talking about...also have you

checked into mb-12....that sometimes helps the fatigue alot...they have ones

you put under your tongue and let disolve.....we did the shots for a

while....that helped alot...for the rest of us....

hope this helps and my best and prayer for things to get better...

Ronni

Any ideas what to do for him? I'm not even totally sure I know

what's wrong with him. I thought it was leaky gut with food

allergies and chronic fatigue and possibly a magnesium deficiency

causing the " shaky chest " feeling. Maybe I've missed something.