Re: Re: Vitamin K2 and Oxalate Kidney Stones

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Margaret,

> > So the combination of kidney stones and any

> > neuropyschiatric problems

> > should be taken as a major sign of vitamin K2

> > deficiency.

> Or magnesium deficiency, possibly.

I don't dispute the importance of magnesium at all. However, the

effect of magnesium on calcium solubility is an indirect one, whereas

vitamin K2 is directly activating proteins that have the specific

purpose of directly preventing calcium from depositing into the soft

tissues.

In people who do not have calcified arterial plaque, ALL of their

matrix GLA protein (a vitamin K-dependent protein) is carboxylated

(i.e. activated). However, in most people this is not the case,

because vitamin K2 deficiency is widespread, and is a direct predictor

of arterial calcification (see the Rotterdam study), and Warfarin and

other coumadin derivatives directly cause arterial calcification at

the doses at which they are used to prevent blood clotting by inducing

vitamin K2 deficiency.

It's easier to assess vitamin K2 deficiency because theoretically all

vitamin K-dependent proteins should be activated, which seems to be

backed up by the study of healthy people. Most people have a lot of

unactivated vitamin K-dependent proteins, and the more they have, the

more bone loss and heart disease they have. But most people are also

deficient in vitamin D, and vitamin D upregulates vitamin K-dependent

proteins, which means that as you restore normal levels of vitamin D,

your need for vitamin K2 becomes even *higher.*

Vitamin K2 is also not widely distributed in foods, which makes it

particularly important to address.

And of course, addressing the issue should not come at the expense of

addressing magnesium status or consider potential deficiencies of any

of the other nutrients.

Chris

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Melinda,

> Is vitamin K2 the same as biotin. Thanks

Nope. Biotin is a B vitamin.

K2 is a generally ignored vitamin that I predict will be recognized as

the most important protection against heart disease, bone disease and

perhaps even mental problems in the coming years. It also goes by the

name of menaquinone. Typical multivitamin supplements do not have it.

The ideal form is menaquinone-4 or MK-4. Few supplements are

available, and generally only over the internet from what I've seen.

It is not distributed widely in food, and besides lacto-fermented

plant foods, it is present only in animal fat, so that fat-free foods

have none, and it is also present to the extent the animals are

grass-fed. Grain-fed animals will have much less.

The mainstream will still refer to " vitamin K " as if there is only one

vitamin K. Eventually vitamin K will be seen as a group of two,

something like the B vitamins are. Vitamin K1 and vitamin K2 fulfill

different physiological functions, are for all practical purposes not

interchangeable, and their distribution in foods is very different.

Chris

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[Guest guest]

I agree, we have been supplementing K2 or menaquinone with great

results for about 2 months. Was the answer as to why her blood calcium was

always high, 4 weeks on the K2 and it is now in range. Good for the brain

and the heart and the bones.

Re: Re: Vitamin K2 and Oxalate Kidney Stones

> Melinda,

>

>> Is vitamin K2 the same as biotin. Thanks

>

> Nope. Biotin is a B vitamin.

>

> K2 is a generally ignored vitamin that I predict will be recognized as

> the most important protection against heart disease, bone disease and

> perhaps even mental problems in the coming years. It also goes by the

> name of menaquinone. Typical multivitamin supplements do not have it.

> The ideal form is menaquinone-4 or MK-4. Few supplements are

> available, and generally only over the internet from what I've seen.

> It is not distributed widely in food, and besides lacto-fermented

> plant foods, it is present only in animal fat, so that fat-free foods

> have none, and it is also present to the extent the animals are

> grass-fed. Grain-fed animals will have much less.

>

> The mainstream will still refer to " vitamin K " as if there is only one

> vitamin K. Eventually vitamin K will be seen as a group of two,

> something like the B vitamins are. Vitamin K1 and vitamin K2 fulfill

> different physiological functions, are for all practical purposes not

> interchangeable, and their distribution in foods is very different.

>

> Chris

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