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Which teacher is this?

RoxannaYou're UniqueJust like everyone else...

( ) What do you think of this teacher's reply?

Okay....just checking it out ...need your opinions to make sure I am not the one who is out of whack? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!My ds told me his teacher is yelling at him....okay. Maybe that explains the moodiness and melt downs....plus going thru puberty and all...well I email the teacher what I thought was a nice note ...his TSS agreed....I just told him was my ds was perceiving etc. I got a reply back...if I want to me with him to discuss anything...please go thru guidance...Go thru guidance...OMG...I thought we were a team....I feel like screaming at the teacher....he says he has to teach ALL the kids..and make sure they are giving 100% of their effort ....how does he know what is 100% for my son....Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...I just want to scream ...LOUD! I am looking for a good fight and I am holding back emailing this idiot...I want to rant and rave and send a copy of his email to the superintendent of school.....was a x?"xj)!!!! & xpox4!!! and dlclxoeuf@@@fjeofjdjdjdirukdkd and everything else.Can you tell i am a wee bit MAD!

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My son's social studies teacher...it is an inclusion class and my son's case manager/special education teacher is in the class too!

Janice Rushen

"I will try to be open to all avenues of wisdom and hope"

From: Roxanna <madideas@...>Subject: Re: ( ) What do you think of this teacher's reply? Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 8:06 PM

Which teacher is this?

RoxannaYou're UniqueJust like everyone else...

( ) What do you think of this teacher's reply?

Okay....just checking it out ...need your opinions to make sure I am not the one who is out of whack? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mm!My ds told me his teacher is yelling at him....okay. Maybe that explains the moodiness and melt downs....plus going thru puberty and all...well I email the teacher what I thought was a nice note ...his TSS agreed....I just told him was my ds was perceiving etc. I got a reply back...if I want to me with him to discuss anything...please go thru guidance...Go thru guidance...OMG. ..I thought we were a team....I feel like screaming at the teacher....he says he has to teach ALL the kids..and make sure they are giving 100% of their effort ....how does he know what is 100% for my son....Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhh. ..I just want to scream ...LOUD! I am looking for a good fight and I am holding back emailing this idiot...I want to rant and rave and send a

copy of his email to the superintendent of school.....was a x?"xj)!!!! & xpox4! !! and dlclxoeuf@@@ fjeofjdjdjdirukd kd and everything else.Can you tell i am a wee bit MAD!

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My son's social studies teacher...it is an inclusion class and my son's case manager/special education teacher is in the class too!

Janice Rushen

"I will try to be open to all avenues of wisdom and hope"

From: Roxanna <madideas@...>Subject: Re: ( ) What do you think of this teacher's reply? Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 8:06 PM

Which teacher is this?

RoxannaYou're UniqueJust like everyone else...

( ) What do you think of this teacher's reply?

Okay....just checking it out ...need your opinions to make sure I am not the one who is out of whack? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mm!My ds told me his teacher is yelling at him....okay. Maybe that explains the moodiness and melt downs....plus going thru puberty and all...well I email the teacher what I thought was a nice note ...his TSS agreed....I just told him was my ds was perceiving etc. I got a reply back...if I want to me with him to discuss anything...please go thru guidance...Go thru guidance...OMG. ..I thought we were a team....I feel like screaming at the teacher....he says he has to teach ALL the kids..and make sure they are giving 100% of their effort ....how does he know what is 100% for my son....Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhh. ..I just want to scream ...LOUD! I am looking for a good fight and I am holding back emailing this idiot...I want to rant and rave and send a

copy of his email to the superintendent of school.....was a x?"xj)!!!! & xpox4! !! and dlclxoeuf@@@ fjeofjdjdjdirukd kd and everything else.Can you tell i am a wee bit MAD!

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Hi Jan. I just read your other response to Roxanna. I'd contact the other teacher/s who are normally in there with him.

Don't back down, woman.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Robin

From: jrushen <jrushen@...>Subject: ( ) What do you think of this teacher's reply? Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 6:39 PM

Okay....just checking it out ...need your opinions to make sure I am not the one who is out of whack? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mm!My ds told me his teacher is yelling at him....okay. Maybe that explains the moodiness and melt downs....plus going thru puberty and all...well I email the teacher what I thought was a nice note ...his TSS agreed....I just told him was my ds was perceiving etc. I got a reply back...if I want to me with him to discuss anything...please go thru guidance...Go thru guidance...OMG. ..I thought we were a team....I feel like screaming at the teacher....he says he has to teach ALL the kids..and make sure they are giving 100% of their effort ....how does he know what is 100% for my son....Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhh. ..I just want to scream ...LOUD! I am looking for a good fight and I am holding back emailing this idiot...I want to rant and rave and send a

copy of his email to the superintendent of school.....was a x?"xj)!!!! & xpox4! !! and dlclxoeuf@@@ fjeofjdjdjdirukd kd and everything else.Can you tell i am a wee bit MAD!

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Is this a general ed teacher? Does this teacher have an assistant or

anyone else in the classroom? I ask this because sometimes the

district is at least, in part, causing the problem. Our biggest

problems happened when the general ed teachers weren't supported

enough. In one class there were 26 kids, three had special needs

that caused them to be disruptive. One teacher was in the room with

no other help. I think I'd be yelling in that situation, too. Then

again, I'd quit my job before I yelled at the kids, I think, I hope.

I'm not saying that what the teacher is doing is right at all. Just

giving you a chance to see what I saw. You might even want to say

this to the teacher because well it's the old, " you'll get more flies

with sugar " thing. I know she's totally horrible otherwise she

wouldn't be yelling, but getting information is a good thing. I

don't think you're the one who is out of whack. I think, though,

that it could be the whole school contributing to the problem rather

than just one person and the guidance counselor might not be much

more helpful.

Miriam

>

> Okay....just checking it out ...need your opinions to make sure I

am

> not the one who is out of whack? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

>

> My ds told me his teacher is yelling at him....okay. Maybe that

> explains the moodiness and melt downs....plus going thru puberty

and

> all...well I email the teacher what I thought was a nice

note ...his

> TSS agreed....I just told him was my ds was perceiving etc.

>

> I got a reply back...if I want to me with him to discuss

> anything...please go thru guidance...

>

> Go thru guidance...OMG...I thought we were a team....I feel like

> screaming at the teacher....he says he has to teach ALL the

kids..and

> make sure they are giving 100% of their effort ....how does he know

> what is 100% for my son....

>

> Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...I just want to scream ...LOUD!

I

> am looking for a good fight and I am holding back emailing this

> idiot...I want to rant and rave and send a copy of his email to the

> superintendent of school.....was a x? " xj)!!!! & xpox4!!! and

> dlclxoeuf@@@fjeofjdjdjdirukdkd and everything else.

>

> Can you tell i am a wee bit MAD!

>

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Wow, Jan. They sound like jerks! Anyone with that much support

should be calm and able to deal with parents as well as kids. A

special ed teacher in the same classroom all day should be enough!

UGH. Sorry, I know you probably posted the whole story before and I

do seem to remember you mentioning the sped teacher being in there.

I'm so discombobulated right now I can't keep up. LOL. We're in New

Hampshire where the ice storm hit. We were without power and water

for about a day and a half then without cable, phone (except cell

when we could keep it charged) and internet! The kids were home from

school from last thursday when they were let out early until Tuesday

of this week!!!

I wish I could just go in and set these people straight! It makes me

so angry. I can feel old anger from our previous terrible situation

in Texas just bubbling up to the surface all over again. When I read

about these situations it just feels very personal to me since I've

lived it. I wish I could help. Let me know if there's anything I

can do. I'm pretty good at helping people write letters about these

things. Sometimes putting it in writing and leaving a clear paper

trail can help.

Hugs,

Miriam

> >

> > Okay....just checking it out ...need your opinions to make sure I

> am

> > not the one who is out of whack? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mm!

> >

> > My ds told me his teacher is yelling at him....okay. Maybe that

> > explains the moodiness and melt downs....plus going thru puberty

> and

> > all...well I email the teacher what I thought was a nice

> note ...his

> > TSS agreed....I just told him was my ds was perceiving etc.

> >

> > I got a reply back...if I want to me with him to discuss

> > anything...please go thru guidance...

> >

> > Go thru guidance...OMG. ..I thought we were a team....I feel like

> > screaming at the teacher....he says he has to teach ALL the

> kids..and

> > make sure they are giving 100% of their effort ....how does he

know

> > what is 100% for my son....

> >

> > Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhh. ..I just want to

scream ...LOUD!

> I

> > am looking for a good fight and I am holding back emailing this

> > idiot...I want to rant and rave and send a copy of his email to

the

> > superintendent of school.....was a x? " xj)!!!! & xpox4! !! and

> > dlclxoeuf@@@ fjeofjdjdjdirukd kd and everything else.

> >

> > Can you tell i am a wee bit MAD!

> >

>

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Time for a rather " surprising visit " to the school. Sorry, I put

that in quotes because of the film A Clockwork Orange. Hard to

explain in a short email except to say that in the film this

particular surprising visit is not at all nice. I know. I'm

twisted. It's one of my all-time favorite films and a lot of it is

violent and terrible but not without purpose. Anyway, I couldn't

quite resist the joke.

Miriam

> > >

> > > Okay....just checking it out ...need your opinions to make sure

I

> > am

> > > not the one who is out of whack? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mm!

> > >

> > > My ds told me his teacher is yelling at him....okay. Maybe that

> > > explains the moodiness and melt downs....plus going thru

puberty

> > and

> > > all...well I email the teacher what I thought was a nice

> > note ...his

> > > TSS agreed....I just told him was my ds was perceiving etc.

> > >

> > > I got a reply back...if I want to me with him to discuss

> > > anything...please go thru guidance...

> > >

> > > Go thru guidance...OMG. ..I thought we were a team....I feel

like

> > > screaming at the teacher....he says he has to teach ALL the

> > kids..and

> > > make sure they are giving 100% of their effort ....how does he

> know

> > > what is 100% for my son....

> > >

> > > Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhh. ..I just want to

> scream ...LOUD!

> > I

> > > am looking for a good fight and I am holding back emailing this

> > > idiot...I want to rant and rave and send a copy of his email to

> the

> > > superintendent of school.....was a x? " xj)!!!! & xpox4! !! and

> > > dlclxoeuf@@@ fjeofjdjdjdirukd kd and everything else.

> > >

> > > Can you tell i am a wee bit MAD!

> > >

> >

>

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> Welll...I contacted the Asst.Superintendent of Sped...she read the

emal ...said she saw nothing Wrong with it...it was appropriate and

professional and followed the school policy.

This may not be what you want to hear, but you may find the guidance

counselor more help than you expect. In our school district,

counselors have masters degrees (usually school counselor and/or

family counselor) and are considered part of the school

administration. We had one in particular in 6th grade that really

helped me with the teachers and our SPED eval. She had the authority

to instruct the teachers how to handle my son and to set limits. I've

had some luck with difficult people by finding other people with as

much authority to help me work around them, not admittedly of course,

but in a kind of unspoken way. As you might expect, some of the

teachers tried to ignore the counselor, but people like the principal

listened, and the teachers wouldn't ignore HER.

> So, what would I accomplish by a surprise visit????

In this day and age with all the privacy policies and security, I

doubt very much this would ever happen in a public school!

Ruth

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Yes, you're right, of course. It won't help to come in and check in

at the office like they all require and have the office staff tell

the teacher. UGH. I have a friend who sent a tape recorder with

her kid. She didn't use it to prove anything, just used it so she

could write her letters with a bit more information. The hardest

thing is that our kids can't TELL us when something is wrong. So

it's maddening when nobody will cooperate with us. When was in

that terrible, horrible, no good, very bad elementary school (Boggess

elementary forever known as Bogus to those of us whose kids have been

there) I came in for a visit well known to everyone and believe it or

NOT I caught a TON of stupid crap that they didn't think was a

problem. They were completely oblivious to what they were doing. It

wasn't anything blatantly wrong or illegal, just stupid and wrong for

most kids. Scolding for talking in line when he was telling

someone to stop pushing him, I mean REALLY, he has to work so hard to

get the words out and when this happened he wasn't even 7 years old

at the time so it was worse then than it is now. So here he is doing

just exactly what he should do. He calmly said, " Don't push me. " He

didn't even say it in a mean way, he was having a sense of humor

about it. The teacher said, " , no talking in line!!! " So if

they don't realize that what they are doing is wrong you will

actually catch those things. Then you can think about what they

might be doing when you're not there. was locked in a room on

his own and was restrained on the floor a few times. He was an

underweight 6 year old. WHY did they need to do that?! Anyway, I

learned of those things from amazingly.

Miriam

> > > >

> > > > Okay....just checking it out ...need your opinions to make

sure

> I

> > > am

> > > > not the one who is out of whack? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mm!

> > > >

> > > > My ds told me his teacher is yelling at him....okay. Maybe

that

> > > > explains the moodiness and melt downs....plus going thru

> puberty

> > > and

> > > > all...well I email the teacher what I thought was a nice

> > > note ...his

> > > > TSS agreed....I just told him was my ds was perceiving etc.

> > > >

> > > > I got a reply back...if I want to me with him to discuss

> > > > anything...please go thru guidance...

> > > >

> > > > Go thru guidance...OMG. ..I thought we were a team....I feel

> like

> > > > screaming at the teacher....he says he has to teach ALL the

> > > kids..and

> > > > make sure they are giving 100% of their effort ....how does

he

> > know

> > > > what is 100% for my son....

> > > >

> > > > Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhh. ..I just want to

> > scream ...LOUD!

> > > I

> > > > am looking for a good fight and I am holding back emailing

this

> > > > idiot...I want to rant and rave and send a copy of his email

to

> > the

> > > > superintendent of school.....was a x? " xj)!!!! & xpox4! !! and

> > > > dlclxoeuf@@@ fjeofjdjdjdirukd kd and everything else.

> > > >

> > > > Can you tell i am a wee bit MAD!

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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